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didi@dyn
post Nov 21 2010, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(deodherion @ Nov 21 2010, 12:32 PM)
They claim it's DDOS attack meaning someone is not happy with YES.
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they are big company, but they cannot manage DDOS attck??
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post Nov 21 2010, 01:04 PM

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why ppl always bring this coice call price whenever they talking about 4g broadband ? we want cheaper broadband not phone, i got damn phone for that , i want internet ! , no some f***ed up plan that not many ppl want !!!
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post Nov 21 2010, 01:16 PM

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ddos attack is actually a very lucrative business. You can ask for a ddos attack service (meaning to say, you can render your competition services useless) from ddos attack "provider" from as low as usd 50.00.
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QUOTE(didi@dyn @ Nov 21 2010, 02:04 PM)
they are big company, but they cannot manage DDOS attck??
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icon_rolleyes.gif This is somewhat unexpected. Even big giants internet firms like Yahoo also kena before. Before we go any further, please read this about DDOS ATTACK. icon_rolleyes.gif


shocking.gif shocking.gif A distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) attack is one in which a multitude of compromised systems attack a single target, thereby causing denial of service for users of the targeted system. The flood of incoming messages to the target system essentially forces it to shut down, thereby denying service to the system to legitimate users.

In a typical DDoS attack, a hacker (or, if you prefer, cracker) begins by exploiting a vulnerability in one computer system and making it the DDoS master. It is from the master system that the intruder identifies and communicates with other systems that can be compromised. The intruder loads cracking tools available on the Internet on multiple -- sometimes thousands of -- compromised systems. With a single command, the intruder instructs the controlled machines to launch one of many flood attacks against a specified target. The inundation of packets to the target causes a denial of service.

While the press tends to focus on the target of DDoS attacks as the victim, in reality there are many victims in a DDoS attack -- the final target and as well the systems controlled by the intruder. Although the owners of co-opted computers are typically unaware that their computers have been compromised, they are nevertheless likely to suffer degradation of service and malfunction. Both owners and users of targeted sites are affected by a denial of service. Yahoo, Buy.com, RIAA and the United States Copyright Office are among the victims of DDoS attacks. DDoS attacks can also create more widespread disruption. In October 2010, for example, a massive DDoS attack took the entire country of Myanmar offline.

A computer under the control of an intruder is known as a zombie or bot. A group of co-opted computers is known as a botnet or a zombie army. Both Kaspersky Labs and Symantec have identified botnets -- not spam, viruses, or worms -- as the biggest threat to Internet security.



icon_rolleyes.gif Hope brother didi@dyn will understand more about these attacks.


wub.gif Cheers brother didi@dyn...you have a nice day too. rclxm9.gif icon_idea.gif
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post Nov 21 2010, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(sol_badguy @ Nov 21 2010, 02:16 PM)
ddos attack is actually a very lucrative business. You can ask for a ddos attack service (meaning to say, you can render your competition services useless) from ddos attack "provider" from as low as usd 50.00.
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rclxms.gif Well said brother sol_badguy....yes, just stopping the competitor from operating is very very cheap indeed. whistling.gif



wub.gif Cheers brother sol_badguy...stay happy always. rclxm9.gif icon_idea.gif
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post Nov 21 2010, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(monkeyking @ Nov 21 2010, 11:53 AM)
Dear Yes customers,
We started Yes with the determination to bring positive change to the people of Malaysia.
Right out of the bat, the response has been fantastic. Many have said “yes” and they are giving us positive reviews, validating our claim to deliver 3 – 5 times the speed of 3G.
Wing K. Lee
CEO, YTL Communications
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has he been reading the forum ?? all i see is bashing and bashing upon bashing...

who are the ppl that say yes ? "validating" claim and "consistency" is different.. wait next year and see when a bucket of users registered...

see what then .... too bad CEO are all PR people and not tech savy ppl...
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post Nov 21 2010, 01:38 PM

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I'm trying to register my yes mobile number but all the combination that ive tried comes back as not available.

Theres a box that says suggestions but it doesnt say anything when i click search.

Anybody with this problem?
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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Nov 21 2010, 02:36 PM)
has he been reading the forum ?? all i see is bashing and bashing upon bashing...

who are the ppl that say yes ? "validating" claim and "consistency" is different.. wait next year and see when a bucket of users registered...

see what then .... too bad CEO are all PR people and not tech savy ppl...
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icon_rolleyes.gif Brother JinXXX, peace be with you. wub.gif Please try to give YES some breathing space. Yes, there's plenty of bashing & I wouldn't be surprise that most these "bashers" may be Cybertroopers of competitiors.....you can count on that........I cannot be very sure regarding this but then why started bashing when the site cannot be accessable because of DDoS attacks.......


icon_rolleyes.gif This is a dog-eat-dog world and competitors will always be brought down at the earliest possibility.......yes, start bashing from DAY 1. shocking.gif Yes, this is a "survival of the fittest" world but rest assure YES is here to stay definately to bring "goodness" to all Malaysians. thumbup.gif Just give them sometime & I am sure YES is listening too.......yes, feedback is always important to YES as to another other business.


icon_rolleyes.gif Brother JinXXX, you seem to be a very angry man indeed without even testing or try out YES first.....try it out first & give some CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK PLEASE TO YES & I am sure YES will lend you a ear........yes,YES hear you loud & clear......so, brother please give CONSTRUCTIVE & NOT DESTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK. wub.gif


wub.gif Constructive criticisms can take many forms, but usually this is done in a very clear way - you identify a problem, you look at probable causes and then try and construct a solution. The solution may not be perfect, or indeed usable in the long term, but you are actively providing a valuable service. You have identified a problem, looked at the root causes and implications and at least tried to provide an alternative.

whistling.gif Destructive is easier to provide - harder to avoid, but in the long run less usable. It is so easy for the general destructive arguments to crop up, such as "Suck it up!" or "This is terrible!" or worse, providing feedback in such a way whereby you grandstand yourself as some kind of egomaniac whose opinion is the only one that matters, and anyone who disagrees is either an idiot or out to get you. Destructive feedback usually ends up making the issue worse - especially when the argument is very much an issue of personal taste. If it doesn't worry you, then you do not need to state that. Your silence is much more valuable in the long run, and companies like YES do note at the numbers who aren't complaining as well as the numbers that are.

wub.gif Cheers brother JinXXX...you have a great day too.....take care too brother.....peace be with you.

This post has been edited by monkeyking: Nov 21 2010, 02:07 PM
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post Nov 21 2010, 02:14 PM

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@monkeyking u sounds like a YES spokesperson icon_idea.gif
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post Nov 21 2010, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(wiind @ Nov 21 2010, 03:14 PM)
@monkeyking u sounds like a YES spokesperson  icon_idea.gif
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icon_rolleyes.gif Peace be with you brother wiind wub.gif ......no, I am no YES spokesperson but just an ordinary Malaysian guy who wants cheaper voice & sms & also faster & cheaper broadband as well....just like you brother wiind. icon_rolleyes.gif


rclxub.gif Yes, we ALL MALAYSIAN had been suffering too long under the monopoly of TMNET, other broadband providers & telcos too. rclxub.gif


icon_rolleyes.gif Let us all be sensible to provide a better tomorrow for ALL MALAYSIANS. rclxm9.gif



wub.gif Cheers brother wiind....much love. wub.gif

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post Nov 21 2010, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Nov 21 2010, 01:36 PM)
has he been reading the forum ?? all i see is bashing and bashing upon bashing...

who are the ppl that say yes ? "validating" claim and "consistency" is different.. wait next year and see when a bucket of users registered...

see what then .... too bad CEO are all PR people and not tech savy ppl...
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what he said might be true, he only talk about the service performance, not about the rate etc.
what we read here mostly complaints about the rate, nothing got to do with performance.

i will go to lot 10 today to register and try the service, if it's not good i will sell the dongle or whatever it is called.
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QUOTE(wiind @ Nov 21 2010, 02:14 PM)
@monkeyking u sounds like a YES spokesperson  icon_idea.gif
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Kudos must be given to monkeyking for turning a few info threads to PR campaigns. More interesting is mods allow these threads to 'survive'.


To all ISPs and telcos, if you deliver a superior service to your target markets, all these techniques are superfluous because Malaysia-based broadband subscribers are still looking for their ideal ISPs. Those who are willing to pay premium price already found their 'solutions'. Others are still searching better deals.
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post Nov 21 2010, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(faizalmzain @ Nov 21 2010, 02:24 PM)
what he said might be true, he only talk about the service performance, not about the rate etc.
what we read here mostly complaints about the rate, nothing got to do with performance.

i will go to lot 10 today to register and try the service, if it's not good i will sell the dongle or whatever it is called.
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How much is the second hand cost of the dongle?

Monkey King: Even though you claim you are not a spokeperson, you seem you are related to them, resellers, engineers or whatsoever. Do channel our concerns to YES smile.gif

Hint: I don't see you talk that way in DIGI, MAXIS, CELCOM, U, AMAX or P1 thread tongue.gif

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post Nov 21 2010, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(faizalmzain @ Nov 21 2010, 03:24 PM)
what he said might be true, he only talk about the service performance, not about the rate etc.
what we read here mostly complaints about the rate, nothing got to do with performance.

i will go to lot 10 today to register and try the service, if it's not good i will sell the dongle or whatever it is called.
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icon_rolleyes.gif Brother faizalmzain, I do agreed with you on the price rate...yes, everyone of us will try to get the cheapest & better service. Brother faizalmzain, do try to email them & give YES some constructive feedback & I am sure they will take note too ...after all YTL had already invest or about to invest a total of $2 BILLION RINGGIT in this YES project...surely they don't want to lose all their money but to make some profit as well. wink.gif


icon_rolleyes.gif Brother faizalmzain , you can contact them here.....



For Further Information, Contact:

YTL e-Solutions Berhad (236137-K)

Level 3, Annexe Block,
Lot10 Shopping Centre,
50, Jalan Sultan Ismail,
50250 Kuala Lumpur,
Wilayah Persekutuan, Malaysia.

Tel: +603 2330 2700
Fax: +603 2330 2703
Email : enquiries@ytlesolutions.com


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Headquarters
YTL Communications Sdn Bhd
Level 8, One Oriental Place
No. 1, Jalan Hang Lekiu
59100 Kuala Lumpur
Malaysia



General Contact No.
+603-2027 8888

Fax
+603-2027 8830

Email
Job enquiries: career@ytlcomms.my
Media enquiries: hasnan.kadir@ytlcomms.my



wub.gif Cheers brother faizalmzain.....may ALLAH bless you too......much love. wub.gif

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for me, if YES can maintain the speed on average more than 4mbps for 1 year then it's good enough for me, beyond that is a bonus.

i don't have much hope for mobile broadband, been using celcom bb, maxis bb and digi bb, they are only good for the first 6 months or so, after that the service started deteriorated. in case of digi's current service, they are only good during the day before 6pm or so, after that frequent disconnection, slow speed. i guess
that's why they came up with day broadband plan for RM38/month laugh.gif

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QUOTE(mugenfoo @ Nov 21 2010, 10:39 AM)
who cares "what-G" they are as long as u get the Super-Duper Truckloads of REAL Usable Mbps... tongue.gif
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The fact is most people that are using wireless broadband comes from the background/experience of using fixed broadband and hence being cheated of the real throughput of wireless broadband.

Unfortunately, it's more complicated in wireless broadband where signal quality plays a role on what's the maximum throughput it's achievable as well as device capability. This is something that won't be told by the Operator and users will need to research by themselves or find it out the hard way.

So whenever operator says HSPA can go 14.4Mbps, WiMAX can go 40Mbps, LTE can go 150Mbps, WiMAX 2 and LTE-Advanced can go 1Gbps ... all come with a fine print.

Fyi, Malaysia LTE won't be able to reach 150Mbps because in order to do that each operator will need 40Mhz of frequency which the government only assign 20MHz now. So don't expect LTE is the saviour of Mobile Broadband.

Unless MCMC prohibits the operators of overselling, let say 1 basestation can only have maximum of 50 subscribers at one time, then maybe it can help to control the congestion.

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QUOTE(monkeyking @ Nov 21 2010, 11:53 AM)
icon_rolleyes.gif Just received from the CEO Office....read it please to understand more regarding non access to their web site.....so please be a little patient for the little hiccups......bear it with them please....thank you all for your understanding. notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
thumbup.gif ATTACHMENT ENCLOSED TOO.....
Dear Yes customers,



We started Yes with the determination to bring positive change to the people of Malaysia.
Right out of the bat, the response has been fantastic. Many have said “yes” and they are giving us positive reviews, validating our claim to deliver 3 – 5 times the speed of 3G.
The response to our www.yes.my portal has been tremendous. However, we are acutely aware that some customers are having issues accessing www.yes.my. This is due to a series of hostile attacks from third parties. On top of legitimate customer traffic, this has seriously degraded the performance of our portal.
I am pleased to report, however, that our Yes 4G network remains unaffected by these attacks.
While we work to drive positive change for Malaysia, sadly, it seems this vision is not entirely shared by some elements.
Our team, along with our operations partner, Cisco, is putting in a measured response to restore the service level of our portal as quickly as possible. We expect this situation to improve in the next 2 – 3 hours.

 

At this time, customers are encouraged to finalize their Yes registration and purchase the Yes service at our Stores at Lot 10 Shopping Centre and KL Sentral in addition to our IT Partner centres.



We trust you will join us as agents of positive change, against these odds. As we said yesterday at our launch, as a new company we will continue to learn and grow. And our www.yes.my portal will emerge stronger and better.
We will work to earn your trust. Thank you for your support.
Best regards,
Wing K. Lee

CEO, YTL Communications
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Are you officially representing YTL ?

Bad start or not , its another story. It depends on how you handle it. Their speed can be superb , mind blowing now. Yes we have seen them. Best test is after 6 months


Its funny , cause a few people have said that it was not DDOS. Anyway HiTB guys managed to fix it , http://twitter.com/alphaque you may wanna tread the tweets

FYI , they were using IIS (ugh who uses IIS these days) , which was way insecure running on windows. I guess they moved to apache afterwards !
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Nov 21 2010, 03:32 PM)
How much is the second hand cost of the dongle?

Monkey King: Even though you claim you are not a spokeperson, you seem you are related to them, resellers, engineers or whatsoever. Do channel our concerns to YES smile.gif

Hint: I don't see you talk that way in DIGI, MAXIS, CELCOM, U, AMAX or P1 thread tongue.gif
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wub.gif Brother p4n6, be rest assured that I am not related to any of them.....I am no reseller , engineer, etc, tec.......swear to GOD that I am just another ordinary Malaysian like you who wants a better, faster & cheaper internet connection. rclxm9.gif


icon_rolleyes.gif BTW, I keep in contact with some senior staff when YTL started investing in YES & that's how I got some of the important information for all......just an inquisitive guy that's all. laugh.gif


: BTW, I am confident that YES staff or even Tan Sri Francis Yeoh is hearfing us loud too....maybe they are reading this thread or topic too. brows.gif



wub.gif Cheers brother p4n6......take care too....much love.


icon_rolleyes.gif BTW, I didn't comment on DIGI, MAXIS, CELCOM, U, AMAX or P1 as I had already tried P1 AND GIVING IT UP........did comment on TMNET STREAMYX too.... however I am on Digi now & Streamyx too [want to get out of Streamyx though].

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So monkeyking, how do you explain YES's early claim to be commitment free but we end up still having the Minimum Usage Requirement of RM30? That is BLATANT FALSE ADVERTISING if you ask me. Ethically YTL has already shown how low they can go.
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QUOTE(parsona @ Nov 21 2010, 03:06 PM)
So monkeyking, how do you explain YES's early claim to be commitment free but we end up still having the Minimum Usage Requirement of RM30?  That is BLATANT FALSE ADVERTISING if you ask me.  Ethically YTL has already shown how low they can go.
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couldn't agree more thumbup.gif

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