WiMAX is what you can get now, LTE is what you will get years later.
You can't compare something that you don't have with something you already have.

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Added on August 1, 2010, 12:11 pmDon't be silly.
Businessmen won't do charity unless it's for marketing and to lobby for more business opportunities.

This post has been edited by p4n6: Aug 1 2010, 12:11 PM

In a PAY AS YOU GO MODEL, you pay what you use hence I don't believe there will be any fair usage policy involved since there is no quota. You will get the maximum throughput available you can get at best effort.

However, I believe bandwidth throttling for P2P and torrent might still be applicable when congestion occurs.

I don't think anyone will use a PAY AS YOU GO MODEL to perform torrent ... unless you are extremely rich.

Currently Maxis 3G rate is "1 cent per 1kB" for pay per use, we will see how much YES will be charging.

I saw my bill monthly for my regular usage exceed RM1k if not with a package.

It's not the first ISP that has that bandwidth problem in Malaysia.

If you have the chance, maybe try to setup an ISP company and provide the service you said our ISP should. I will sure subscribe (assuming the price is still ~RM100).

I believe the ISP in Malaysia is buying leased line for their backhaul at about RM 2-3k per Mbps (subject to negotiation) from the leased line provider.

If you can provide 4 Mbps to every subscriber at RM200 with maximum 4Mbps download for everything 24x7 p0rn download included ... I'm your customer.

I just checked Maxis 3G website, they revise to become RM0.10 per 10kB. They claim it's the industry standard.

Note that "RM0.01 per 1kB" and "RM0.10 per 10kB" are not the same because per block is 10kB, even if you use 8kB, it's counted as 10kB minimal.



**Starting 16 August 2010, there will be new data charges based on the industry’s standard practice. The new charges are – RM0.10/10KB from 7am - 2am and RM0.05/10KB from
2am – 7am. The average price per KB will remain unchanged.

Really hope YES can do better than this.

This post has been edited by p4n6: Nov 8 2010, 10:25 PM

You need to get the WiMAX Phone in order to make call & sms.
You need to get the WiMAX modem, dongle or the mifi to surf the internet.

No, you cannot use your iPhone to surf without the mifi.

But it doesn't make sense if you are existing iPhone user with data plan.

1. If you subscribe to iPhone, you can subscribe to the data plan as well, why want to subscribe to another data plan with YES?
2. You will need to bring another device in your pocket (mifi), also doesn't make sense.

The idea is like a solar power torch light in Stephen Chow's movie

I agree that it's subject to the price per kB (standard way of charging for data is per kB not MB - kB is better for consumer if it's per block count).

For you suggestion of utilizing iPhone to make voice call on MiFi, i will say an iPod is a better choice (cheaper, slimmer and lighter).

However, I strongly believe it's cheaper to make a voice call using conventional voice plan than using a pay per use data plan considering the different of on-net and off-net call.

The technology is the same, I won't expect much difference.
Businessman do business not charity ... lol

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Added on November 17, 2010, 7:58 amThe desktop modem is very cool, better than the P1 Tower.

But the phone, lol ... it's 5 years behind other smartphone.

This post has been edited by p4n6: Nov 17 2010, 07:58 AM

P1 Blackbox not stylish also

Maxis currently charge 10cents per 10kb.

Assuming the speed will eventually turn awry for all wireless broadband, let's look at the price per MB, I did a little comparison

Sorry, I only do for Maxis and P1 because I'm using them hahahaha ...

It seems that YES is a good choice IF AND ONLY IF you are a low data user but not when you go above 3GB.

MB /Maxis Android Data /YES Pay Per Use Data /WINNER
500 /RM58 /RM15 / YES
1536 /RM78 / RM46.08 / YES
3072 / RM88 / RM92.16 / MAXIS
* Maxis subsequent RM0.10 per 10kb

MB /Maxis Broadband Data /YES Pay Per Use Data /WINNER
1536 /RM 48 /RM46.08 /YES
3072 /RM68 / RM92.16 /MAXIS
6144 / RM98 /RM184.32 /MAXIS
12288 /RM198 / RM368.64 /MAXIS
*Maxis Subsequent free but throttled speed

MB P1 Broadband YES Pay Per Use Data WINNER
5120 /RM49 /RM153.6 /P1
20480 /RM99 /RM 614.4 /P1
30720 /RM139 /RM921.6 / P1
*P1 Subsequent free but throttled speed
**P1 Based on 400Kbps, 1.2Mbps and 2.4Mbps

MB P1 Broadband YES Pay Per Use Data WINNER
6144 /RM59 / RM184.32 / P1
10240 /RM89 /RM307.2 / P1
15360 /RM129 /RM460.8 /P1
*P1 Subsequent free but throttled speed
**P1 Based on 600Kbps, 1.5Mbps and No Limit(stupid)

This post has been edited by p4n6: Nov 17 2010, 06:05 PM

9cents per minute/sms is for local call and sms right?

I wonder what's the rate for cross operators like to Maxis, Digi and Celcom. Judging the number of users for majority of people (I will say ALL now), the cross operators rate is my major concern.

I'm currently on a "wait and see" mode.

There could be a revise on the rate or introduction of new packages very soon.

Let's let those who already pre-register to taste the water first hehehe ...

The password should able to be changed if you lost it.

How often you see people steal password to use the internet? it is not worth the money. Unlike stealing handbags, you can sell and get cash.

And also depends on the speed, the data you can download is also limited per second/minute/hour/day, if you can change the password on time, I think you can cut your losses.

I do hope there is a log history to check your usage on the web, in case the password being used by other people without your knowledge.

My opinion is the username/password method of authenticating users are very convenient and it encourages multiple devices single account.

I'm just curious whether it allows multiple login at the same time.

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Added on November 18, 2010, 9:06 amErr .. because most people here are heavy users and by calculating the price, YES is more pricey than other operators.

By calculation, if you use more than 3G per month, the Pay-Per-Use price for YES will increase exponentially as compared to package offered by Maxis, Digi, Celcom, U and P1

I'm confident YES will launch bundle package very soon to counter their shortcoming. 3G service has gone thru this pay-per-use concept around the world at their early stage but failed miserably.

And when bundle package kicks in, so will FUP, throttling, congestion ...

This post has been edited by p4n6: Nov 18 2010, 09:06 AM

I kinda doubt you can receive 018 call on your laptop/netbook. The call on computer should be using YESID not the number. I guess only.

I think YES has achieved the LYN Book Of Record of getting a thread bashing about its service the earliest. Usually it take 2-3 months for people to complain, YES has it right after its launch.

What happened?4

If based on standardization, there are only 2G and 3G at the moment. Any others self proclaimed 2.5G, 3.5G, 3.75G and 3.9G never existed. There are different releases and upgrades from the existing "G" from time to time. However, the standard never gives a "G" differentiation to the releases and upgrades.

1. WiMAX 2 and LTE-Advanced are 4G technologies.
2. WiMAX, HSPA, HSPA+ and LTE are all 3G technologies.
3. GPRS and EDGE are 2G technology.

The reason why there are so many self proclaimed "G" technology is more or less coming from the equipment vendors.

As the equipment vendors want to sell to the operators new equipment, they always grade it a few "G" higher than their existing one to convince them to upgrade/ purchase new one.

And also to the operator, to market their service better than existing one, they take the bait and use the higher "G" to market to their customers as well.


AND one important point is that, it doesn't matter how many "G" are there, everything comes back to average throughput per sub.

If a so-called 3.5G technology can reach a theoretical maximum of 14.4Mbps and sold to 20 people, average each will get is 700kbps.
If a so-called 4G technology can reach a theoretical maximum of 35Mbps and sold to 40 people, average each will get also 700kbps.

So what's the different between these two technologies, it's the SAME!

To operator, the more bandwidth the technology can provide, meaning they can sell to more people. But to the people, they are not getting anything extra!

This type of technology advancement will have no benefit to the user, it will only benefit the operator/provider.

You are conned if you go and subscribe because of the so-called NEW TECHNOLOGY!

How much is the second hand cost of the dongle?

Monkey King: Even though you claim you are not a spokeperson, you seem you are related to them, resellers, engineers or whatsoever. Do channel our concerns to YES

Hint: I don't see you talk that way in DIGI, MAXIS, CELCOM, U, AMAX or P1 thread

This post has been edited by p4n6: Nov 21 2010, 02:33 PM

The fact is most people that are using wireless broadband comes from the background/experience of using fixed broadband and hence being cheated of the real throughput of wireless broadband.

Unfortunately, it's more complicated in wireless broadband where signal quality plays a role on what's the maximum throughput it's achievable as well as device capability. This is something that won't be told by the Operator and users will need to research by themselves or find it out the hard way.

So whenever operator says HSPA can go 14.4Mbps, WiMAX can go 40Mbps, LTE can go 150Mbps, WiMAX 2 and LTE-Advanced can go 1Gbps ... all come with a fine print.

Fyi, Malaysia LTE won't be able to reach 150Mbps because in order to do that each operator will need 40Mhz of frequency which the government only assign 20MHz now. So don't expect LTE is the saviour of Mobile Broadband.

Unless MCMC prohibits the operators of overselling, let say 1 basestation can only have maximum of 50 subscribers at one time, then maybe it can help to control the congestion.

This post has been edited by p4n6: Nov 21 2010, 02:57 PM

Use Bazooka to kill an ant

Average only need 500kbps for regular web browsing.

Because the 10Mbps or 20Mbps is not meant for individual consumption, it's shared among subscribers. Imagine 50 people sharing the 10Mbps ... then it becomes reasonable that the speed is not meant for download and streaming ... that's where the quota becomes reasonable.

Maybe it charges to your account first and you pay during your next reload?