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post Nov 8 2010, 08:14 PM

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just hope ytl branding won't bring down by this new product - BB services. laugh.gif
and also hope don't like P1 wimax, promote until so gao, end up can't handle the user growth
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post Nov 8 2010, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(totally_skint @ Nov 7 2010, 12:12 PM)
Yikes!!!

At 1 sen per 1KB that's RM10K+ for 1GB!!!

I don't think YES would be charging that much.
They'll price themselves out of the market at that price.
Besides, they'll be using wimax which is a data centric network.

Probably in future, YES will also launch an All-You-Can-Eat model for a flat discounted rate.
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I just checked Maxis 3G website, they revise to become RM0.10 per 10kB. They claim it's the industry standard.

Note that "RM0.01 per 1kB" and "RM0.10 per 10kB" are not the same because per block is 10kB, even if you use 8kB, it's counted as 10kB minimal.

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**Starting 16 August 2010, there will be new data charges based on the industry’s standard practice. The new charges are – RM0.10/10KB from 7am - 2am and RM0.05/10KB from
2am – 7am. The average price per KB will remain unchanged.

Really hope YES can do better than this.

This post has been edited by p4n6: Nov 8 2010, 10:25 PM
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post Nov 8 2010, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Nov 6 2010, 04:17 PM)
That better not be internet rate (if mobile phone, understandable).

That's like RM10.25 for 1GB, ridiculously high.
10GB = RM103
50GB = RM513

*shudder*
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RM10/1GB is cheap enough. i would sign up right away since my usage monthly circa 3GB++ only. smile.gif

digi internet = RM68/3GB
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post Nov 9 2010, 12:32 AM

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Only for the past 10 years...
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Is not just those illegal download stuffs or pxrn. Just think of HD movies, is takes about 2gb or more, how bout HD video calls? This kind of things does use up a lot of capacity. We want more capacity, 6GB is just too less for us. I think problem is the charges still high on here, if low usage, maybe a simple RM30 for 5gb for normal user, while some heavy comes to 10gb above charge like RM88.
We can always pay for heavy usage, but if ISP still keeping like 6BG at over RM100 permonth, then no point. While those normal surf charge at below RM50, but wait those are so call very normal user, like 56K user.
I don't fussy on 4G or 3G, as long they can provide a good price and speed will do. A good 2mb will do good for me.
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post Nov 9 2010, 01:52 AM

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hi all,

do we need a modem to use YES like P1? if a modem is needed then how do we use YES in our mobile phone? so can IPHONE 4 use YES?

according to their website www.yes.my , we can even use IPAD, IPOD TOUCH to surf net by using YES. if like that, no modem is needed, as IPOD doesnt have usb port. if both YES and P1 using same technology, WIMAX, why P1 need a modem whereas YES doesn't ?

http://www.yes.my/en/why-yes/more-reasons-...to-say-yes.aspx

"Now, you can stream high-quality videos on your phone, or send and receive SMS on your laptop – or make calls from either one. You can even use Yes 4G on other Wi-Fi-enabled devices, like the iPad, PlayStation Portable and iPod Touch! " -- this sentence was copied from the above link

so does it means YES is just like WIFI but the coverage is lot bigger? (lets say WIFI only covers radius 50m but YES can cover radius up to few km). as long as we switch on WIFI mode on our handphone, laptop, ipad or ipod touch and detect YES, then just log on with YES id and password, and it's done ! am i right?

pls comment

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QUOTE(biatch0 @ Nov 9 2010, 12:32 AM)
Only for the past 10 years...
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I reek of jealousy. But I have Unifi now. tongue.gif

Before Unifi, Time is well known for having the biggest fiber optic network in the country and the most underutilised network as well.

How much are you paying for it?
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price and latency still decide its fate

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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Nov 9 2010, 09:38 AM)
I reek of jealousy. But I have Unifi now. tongue.gif

Before Unifi, Time is well known for having the biggest fiber optic network in the country and the most underutilised network as well.

How much are you paying for it?
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From 2000-2002: RM1399 for 2Mbps Enterprise SDSL
From 2003-2005: RM418 for 512Kbps Enterprise SDSL
From 2006-2008: RM138 for 512Kbps Consumer SDSL
From 2009-2010: RM99 for 2Mbps/512Kbps Consumer xDSL
From 2010-current: RM138 for 1.5Mbps/1.5Mbps Consumer xDSL

Unfortunately, TIME over the past couple of years has deteriorated and become one of those companies that takes 5 years to roll out new things. Hopefully now with the merger with AIMS/GlobalTransit things will change and they'll roll out their fibre solution a little faster.
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post Nov 9 2010, 02:19 PM

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Yes is marketing on the fact that they charge you according to use, like electricity. A little throwback into the past, I feel.

My family pretty much uses the internet 24/7. If the total amount is still cheaper than TM's true value then it's not as bad as it sounds.

But if it's like Dailup jaring again.... /tehhorror
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post Nov 9 2010, 04:43 PM

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time biggest fiber optic?

sorry that honour have always gone to tm, telekom malaysia before it and jabatan telekom malaysia at the beginning.

time has never had the density nor the coverage as wide as tm.

This post has been edited by ihsan: Nov 9 2010, 04:44 PM
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post Nov 9 2010, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Nov 8 2010, 10:23 PM)
I just checked Maxis 3G website, they revise to become RM0.10 per 10kB. They claim it's the industry standard.

Note that "RM0.01 per 1kB" and "RM0.10 per 10kB" are not the same because per block is 10kB, even if you use 8kB, it's counted as 10kB minimal.

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**Starting 16 August 2010, there will be new data charges based on the industry’s standard practice. The new charges are – RM0.10/10KB from 7am - 2am and RM0.05/10KB from
2am – 7am. The average price per KB will remain unchanged.

Really hope YES can do better than this.
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The rest of the pricing options.
Don't think anyone will be fool enough to use 10 sen per 10KB
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post Nov 9 2010, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(nikonfan @ Nov 9 2010, 01:52 AM)
hi all,

do we need a modem to use YES like P1? if a modem is needed then how do we use YES in our mobile phone? so can IPHONE 4 use YES?

according to their website www.yes.my , we can even use IPAD, IPOD TOUCH to surf net by using YES. if like that, no modem is needed, as IPOD doesnt have usb port. if both YES and P1 using same technology, WIMAX, why P1 need a modem whereas YES doesn't ?

http://www.yes.my/en/why-yes/more-reasons-...to-say-yes.aspx

"Now, you can stream high-quality videos on your phone, or send and receive SMS on your laptop – or make calls from either one. You can even use Yes 4G on other Wi-Fi-enabled devices, like the iPad, PlayStation Portable and iPod Touch! " --  this sentence was copied from the above link

so does it means YES is just like WIFI but the coverage is lot bigger? (lets say WIFI only covers radius 50m but YES can cover radius up to few km). as long as we switch on WIFI mode  on our handphone, laptop, ipad or ipod touch and detect YES, then just log on with YES id and password, and it's done ! am i right?

pls comment
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Where is it stated?
I can't find it.
But I'm guessing they are referring to when you use their Huddle mifi device to connect your iPad, iPod etc
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QUOTE(nikonfan @ Nov 9 2010, 01:52 AM)
hi all,

do we need a modem to use YES like P1? if a modem is needed then how do we use YES in our mobile phone? so can IPHONE 4 use YES?

according to their website www.yes.my , we can even use IPAD, IPOD TOUCH to surf net by using YES. if like that, no modem is needed, as IPOD doesnt have usb port. if both YES and P1 using same technology, WIMAX, why P1 need a modem whereas YES doesn't ?

http://www.yes.my/en/why-yes/more-reasons-...to-say-yes.aspx

"Now, you can stream high-quality videos on your phone, or send and receive SMS on your laptop – or make calls from either one. You can even use Yes 4G on other Wi-Fi-enabled devices, like the iPad, PlayStation Portable and iPod Touch! " --  this sentence was copied from the above link

so does it means YES is just like WIFI but the coverage is lot bigger? (lets say WIFI only covers radius 50m but YES can cover radius up to few km). as long as we switch on WIFI mode  on our handphone, laptop, ipad or ipod touch and detect YES, then just log on with YES id and password, and it's done ! am i right?

pls comment
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it use something called mifi.... which technically means it is a mobile wifi hotspot...
in simple laymen term it changes wimax to wifi then ur iphone ipad psp or laptop can connect to it
now digi also offering something like that but instead of wimax it use 3g then rebroadcast it in to wifi

if i am not mistaken.. the product name is YES Huddle, which the normal home modem is called YES Zoom plus wimax dongle YES GO and 4G phone YES Buzz

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QUOTE(joevo2 @ Nov 9 2010, 06:03 PM)
it use something called mifi.... which technically means it is a mobile wifi hotspot...
in simple laymen term it changes wimax to wifi then ur iphone ipad psp or laptop can connect to it
now digi also offering something like that but instead of wimax it use 3g then rebroadcast it in to wifi

if i am not mistaken.. the product name is YES Huddle, which the normal home modem is called YES Zoom  plus wimax dongle YES GO and 4G phone YES Buzz
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thanks for the info !

so that means we have to carry a device along wherever we go in order for our iphone to use, right?

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i just receive free YES ID from YES with free 300MB/month usage =D
looking foward to it
the ID is given by my university

wondering how do i use it on my phone O_O to make call ? sms? if my phone does not support 4G

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QUOTE(nikonfan @ Nov 10 2010, 12:42 AM)
thanks for the info !

so that means we have to carry a device along wherever we go in order for our iphone to use, right?
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yup ^^ it uses battery... hmm didnt actually use one before though XP
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post Nov 10 2010, 07:33 AM

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QUOTE(gstoh @ Nov 10 2010, 02:24 AM)
i just receive free YES ID from YES with free 300MB/month usage =D
looking foward to it
the ID is given by my university

wondering how do i use it on my phone O_O to make call ? sms? if my phone does not support 4G
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You need to get the WiMAX Phone in order to make call & sms.
You need to get the WiMAX modem, dongle or the mifi to surf the internet.

No, you cannot use your iPhone to surf without the mifi.

But it doesn't make sense if you are existing iPhone user with data plan.

1. If you subscribe to iPhone, you can subscribe to the data plan as well, why want to subscribe to another data plan with YES?
2. You will need to bring another device in your pocket (mifi), also doesn't make sense.

The idea is like a solar power torch light in Stephen Chow's movie tongue.gif
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QUOTE(biatch0 @ Nov 9 2010, 12:23 PM)
From 2000-2002: RM1399 for 2Mbps Enterprise SDSL
From 2003-2005: RM418 for 512Kbps Enterprise SDSL
From 2006-2008: RM138 for 512Kbps Consumer SDSL
From 2009-2010: RM99 for 2Mbps/512Kbps Consumer xDSL
From 2010-current: RM138 for 1.5Mbps/1.5Mbps Consumer xDSL

Unfortunately, TIME over the past couple of years has deteriorated and become one of those companies that takes 5 years to roll out new things. Hopefully now with the merger with AIMS/GlobalTransit things will change and they'll roll out their fibre solution a little faster.
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I see. Seems the 2010 prices is a bit of a rip off. You're paying more for less, compared to 2009?

QUOTE(ihsan @ Nov 9 2010, 04:43 PM)
time biggest fiber optic?

sorry that honour have always gone to tm, telekom malaysia before it and jabatan telekom malaysia at the beginning.

time has never had the density nor the coverage as wide as tm.
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Is it? Then I guess I may have misread that article. Perhaps it was "largest most underutilised fiber optic network" as opposed to "largest and most underutilised fiber optic network". Lol.
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i wouldn't say underutilized. it depends on where the fiber is being utilized. if we're talking cities, then time probably is running at capacity. fiber laid for long-haul transport i.e. (inter-cities) is probably underutilized by your definition but as transport mechanism i.e. dwdm, otn, mpls-tp etc grow in maturity, you can expect bandwidth to become cheaper and fibers being snapped up.

that is definitely true in time's case as metro ethernet bandwidth prices are way way cheaper than what tm is offering.

typical ROI of fiber is between 20-30 years depending on operators. so in time, those unlit fiber will eventually be utilized either leased to another party or for internal use.

fiber are laid in quantity so that we don't have to korek jalan and laid them all again whenever capacity is reached. so this sort of forward planning is one might misconstrue as underutilization but is definitely not the case.

you can never have too many fiber. average civil works to lay a fiber is rm 200k per km (only 10-20% are perhaps the fiber cost) and that is only on non-trunk road like the one in your housing estate or shophouses. for highways and federal roads, costs are way way higher. so it makes sense to lump in fiber in quantity the first time you're doing it.

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