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post Aug 1 2010, 06:07 PM

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The 300MB is just for free tasting.
Like free sample food, you can't get full on it.
But I wonder if Uni students have to pay for the Wimax modem to use the FREE 300MB.
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post Nov 5 2010, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(palmjack @ Nov 5 2010, 08:13 PM)
This is about YTL's offering is it not? There are'nt any 4G/Wimax capable mobile phones in our market (like the HTC Evo) so I asked the question daaah. I have my doubts it will take off so soon. 3G is barely here.
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Agree! Yes is about convergence so any question regarding phones on Yes network is OK by me.
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post Nov 6 2010, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(iipohbee @ Nov 5 2010, 08:55 PM)
Throw away your old TM Homeline.
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Only if they let me port my landline number to another service like they do with mobile numbers.

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post Nov 6 2010, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(iipohbee @ Nov 6 2010, 01:54 PM)
I thought your customers usually get you on your mobile number more often then depending on fixed lines when you are on the move.
Why not turn your mobile number and make it your fixed line number instead?It only requires a change of phone equipment.
You definitely can't do that with your fixed line number.
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Too many friends and family still call on landline.
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post Nov 6 2010, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Nov 6 2010, 04:17 PM)
That better not be internet rate (if mobile phone, understandable).

That's like RM10.25 for 1GB, ridiculously high.
10GB = RM103
50GB = RM513

*shudder*
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Isn't this comparable to other wireless service providers like Digi, Celcom or Maxis?
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QUOTE(sg999 @ Nov 6 2010, 08:25 PM)
after exceed quota
giv u 56k dial up speed nod.gif
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I meant comparable from a pricing point of view.

In a Pay-As-You-Go model, there should not be any slowdown because there would be no cap.
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post Nov 7 2010, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Nov 6 2010, 09:19 PM)
Currently Maxis 3G rate is "1 cent per 1kB" for pay per use, we will see how much YES will be charging.

I saw my bill monthly for my regular usage exceed RM1k if not with a package.
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Yikes!!!

At 1 sen per 1KB that's RM10K+ for 1GB!!!

I don't think YES would be charging that much.
They'll price themselves out of the market at that price.
Besides, they'll be using wimax which is a data centric network.

Probably in future, YES will also launch an All-You-Can-Eat model for a flat discounted rate.
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post Nov 9 2010, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Nov 8 2010, 10:23 PM)
I just checked Maxis 3G website, they revise to become RM0.10 per 10kB. They claim it's the industry standard.

Note that "RM0.01 per 1kB" and "RM0.10 per 10kB" are not the same because per block is 10kB, even if you use 8kB, it's counted as 10kB minimal.

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**Starting 16 August 2010, there will be new data charges based on the industry’s standard practice. The new charges are – RM0.10/10KB from 7am - 2am and RM0.05/10KB from
2am – 7am. The average price per KB will remain unchanged.

Really hope YES can do better than this.
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The rest of the pricing options.
Don't think anyone will be fool enough to use 10 sen per 10KB
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post Nov 9 2010, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(nikonfan @ Nov 9 2010, 01:52 AM)
hi all,

do we need a modem to use YES like P1? if a modem is needed then how do we use YES in our mobile phone? so can IPHONE 4 use YES?

according to their website www.yes.my , we can even use IPAD, IPOD TOUCH to surf net by using YES. if like that, no modem is needed, as IPOD doesnt have usb port. if both YES and P1 using same technology, WIMAX, why P1 need a modem whereas YES doesn't ?

http://www.yes.my/en/why-yes/more-reasons-...to-say-yes.aspx

"Now, you can stream high-quality videos on your phone, or send and receive SMS on your laptop – or make calls from either one. You can even use Yes 4G on other Wi-Fi-enabled devices, like the iPad, PlayStation Portable and iPod Touch! " --  this sentence was copied from the above link

so does it means YES is just like WIFI but the coverage is lot bigger? (lets say WIFI only covers radius 50m but YES can cover radius up to few km). as long as we switch on WIFI mode  on our handphone, laptop, ipad or ipod touch and detect YES, then just log on with YES id and password, and it's done ! am i right?

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Where is it stated?
I can't find it.
But I'm guessing they are referring to when you use their Huddle mifi device to connect your iPad, iPod etc
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post Nov 10 2010, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Nov 10 2010, 07:33 AM)
The idea is like a solar power torch light in Stephen Chow's movie tongue.gif
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Which movie? I wanna watch that. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(HeartMePlz @ Nov 10 2010, 08:20 PM)
they use internet to call.. jus like skype
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So if the Buzz phone is basically running a voip app, I wonder if it can be rooted to add other stuff? brows.gif
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post Nov 13 2010, 11:31 AM

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Slight hiccup with interconnect on certain blocks of numbers.
I received the following email this morning.

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Dear Valued Customer,

Thank you for pre-registering your Yes ID. On 19th November 2010 we will be launching the fastest 4G mobile internet with voice which is 3 to 5 times faster than the current 3G providers.

At the point of registration at our website, www.yes.my, you have successfully selected a 018 number of your choice which allows you to make and receive calls within our Yes network as well as to other network operators.

It is interconnect that allows us to make and receive calls to other network operators. Temporarily we are experiencing interconnect issue with these two blocks of numbers. Those number blocks are from the 018-331xxxx and 018-332xxxx series.

However we are pleased to inform you, this issue will be resolved by the first week of December 2010. Rest assured this interconnect issue would not affect the making or receiving of voice calls within the Yes network. These affected 018 numbers will be unable to make or receive calls from other network operators.

As such there are two options available;

Option 1:
We will be able to assist in either obtaining a different number whereby you will be able to make and receive calls from other network operators. If you prefer to change the number, the range of number that is available will be from 018-306xxxx whilst the last four digits will remain the same as the last four digits of your previously selected number.

Option 2:
You may retain the current number and enjoy making calls to other network operators once the interconnect issue has been resolved.

Kindly revert to us by Monday, 15th November 2010; by emailing us at yescare@yes.my If we have not heard from you, we would assume that you wish to retain your previously selected number.

We apologize for any inconvenience caused and thank you once again for supporting Yes.


Always at your service
Customer Advocate
YesCare


This is a good start.
At least they keep you posted of issues and changes rather than let you find out yourselves later.

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post Nov 14 2010, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Nov 13 2010, 05:34 PM)
I agree that it's subject to the price per kB (standard way of charging for data is per kB not MB - kB is better for consumer if it's per block count).

For you suggestion of utilizing iPhone to make voice call on MiFi, i will say an iPod is a better choice (cheaper, slimmer and lighter).

However, I strongly believe it's cheaper to make a voice call using conventional voice plan than using a pay per use data plan considering the different of on-net and off-net call.
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I don't think they will bill you by the KB.
KB measurement is fine if you are on dialup or a very very expensive data plan on your cellphone where you'll be very careful with its use but not on broadband

For example, take Digi's smallest(and most expensive) prepaid, the Discover package @ RM68 for 3GB.
That works out to 68/3072MB = 2.2 sen per MB.
At KB measures that will be 2.2/1024 = 0.000021 sen.

Would you sweat over two thousand of a sen?

As for voice calls, I'm guessing they won't count towards your data usage.
Instead they will bill you by time.
For comparison, check out Unifi where they use separate channels for Data, VOIP and IPTV.
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post Nov 14 2010, 01:14 PM

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Maybe they've resolved the interconnect issue with your 332 block?
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Spotted what I think is the YES Wimax Pico Station unit.
It was on mounted on the ceiling in the Lot 10 basement food court between Ho Weng Kee and Bistro Bavaria.

It's a all white square box about 10" a side with the the Samsung name in the middle.
It has a thin black stripe around the sides.
It has two white antennas and a blue LAN cable attached.
There is also thick black coax cable (LMR-400?)attached to it.
There is no power cord attached (POE maybe?).
A flashing red light is seen below the Samsung name.

Sorry no pictures because no camera with me.


Added on November 16, 2010, 9:50 pm
QUOTE(Forum-Modding Newb @ Nov 16 2010, 12:29 AM)
That would be sad. Skype calls, which are VoIP, are 60 min = 25.98MB which by your definition of 2.2sen/MB means a 1 minute VoIP call should = 0.9526 sen/minute!!! If they can pull this off the telcos are dead meat. Ok maybe they have to pay for interconnect fees to the Digis/Maxis/Celcoms of the world, add a few sen to that, you could get a price of less than 3-4 sen/minute theoretically, right?

How about SMS? An SMS is 140 bytes, again by your definition of 2.2 sen/MB the price of one SMS in an all-IP environment is..... 0.0003 sen!!!  blink.gif So best case scenario YTL Yes gives us 3-4 sen/minute off-net 1sen/min on-net calls and 3 sen/1000 SMS if they stick to 2.2 sen/MB data....

Nah, it probably won't happen. sweat.gif They'd probably get sued if they offer that kind of ultra-undercut price, but Francis Yeoh did say that "voice-centric business models of the established telcos are not sustainable" (quote from here).
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You misread my post.
I said that VOIP and SMS won't count towards your data usage.
It'll probably be charged the same way as other telcos - by minute and by message.

Of course if you want to use Skype then it will be counted as data just like when you pay monthly Streamyx to use it.
Not totally free is it?
Furthermore, Skype isn't free when calling off-net as you were implying in your post above.

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post Nov 17 2010, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Nov 17 2010, 07:56 AM)
The technology is the same, I won't expect much difference.
Businessman do business not charity ... lol


Added on November 17, 2010, 7:58 am
The desktop modem is very cool, better than the P1 Tower.

But the phone, lol ... it's 5 years behind other smartphone.
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Black always stylish wat! smile.gif

I don't think that's a smartphone so it's comparable to other regular phones.


Added on November 17, 2010, 10:57 am
QUOTE(biatch0 @ Nov 17 2010, 03:40 AM)
From what I've heard, it will be "slightly" below the current Maxis pricing for data... so you are most probably looking at about 3-4 sen. The premium is basically because the data charges are pay as you go (think along the lines of the call charges of Hotlink vs Postpaid) rather than a package deal.
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What is Maxis' current pricing?

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Nov 17 2010, 11:43 AM)
Maxis currently charge 10cents per 10kb.
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I read that (unconfirmed) it's going to be 9 sen per 3MB
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More details about YES from this blog
vernonchan.com

About YTL Comms CEO Wing K. Lee
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post Nov 17 2010, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(iipohbee @ Nov 17 2010, 08:33 PM)
The most dangerous aspect is the password. If it gets stolen unknowingly, you'll going to be so sorry when your next bill arrives.

They better put a monthly maximum cap of RM250 to their bills or else if your password gets stolen, you're going to pay thousands for it.
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Agree it's dangerous if you lose your password.
So, don't use the YES email account.
That's half your login info already.
Maybe YES should use different login name instead.
Especially dangerous are key-loggers on your PC if you use the YES Life program.

As for monthly caps, well, it is a prepaid service so all you stand to lose is your prepaid credit.

I wonder how much the Buzz phone costs?
Anyone?
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Nov 18 2010, 08:59 AM)
The password should able to be changed if you lost it.

How often you see people steal password to use the internet? it is not worth the money. Unlike stealing handbags, you can sell and get cash.

And also depends on the speed, the data you can download is also limited per second/minute/hour/day, if you can change the password on time, I think you can cut your losses.

I do hope there is a log history to check your usage on the web, in case the password being used by other people without your knowledge.

My opinion is the username/password method of authenticating users are very convenient and it encourages multiple devices single account.

I'm just curious whether it allows multiple login at the same time.

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You can't lose your password. You FORGET your password.
However it's when it's stolen without your knowledge that's scary.
That's why I say YES should have a different login and password for email and devices.

Sad about the price though.
We'll see tomorrow how they can sweeten the deal.

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