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Yes YTL WIMAX - Yes 4G

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post Nov 16 2010, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(ronn77 @ Jul 28 2010, 12:25 PM)
for nowadays usage and demand, peoples want a better bandwidth and high speed to fulfilled the increasing data contents. implementing this policy is like giving you a ferrari and ask you to drive below 100/kmh. I believe if more ppls is not subscribing to that service and they will begin to realise and adjusting their policy to suits our demand.

It's the power of consumer anyway.
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post Nov 16 2010, 07:14 PM

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Speed are good.... tested today and play around...
using speedtest i can get around DL +- 7Mb/s, UL +- 5Mb/s (Cyberjaya server).
speedtest i can get around DL +- 4Mb/s, UL +- 3Mb/s (London server)

They use IP range starting from 124, ping around 6ms
Well i can't judge anything right now... let see till it launch...no package been leak at the moment...hehe

PS** i didnt get the speedtest.net screen because is today testing at LOT10....
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post Nov 16 2010, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(uexpress @ Nov 16 2010, 07:14 PM)
Speed are good.... tested today and play around...
using speedtest i can get around DL +- 7Mb/s, UL +- 5Mb/s (Cyberjaya server).
speedtest i can get around DL +- 4Mb/s, UL +- 3Mb/s (London server)

They use IP range starting from 124, ping around 6ms
Well i can't judge anything right now... let see till it launch...no package been leak at the moment...hehe

PS** i didnt get the speedtest.net screen because is today testing at LOT10....
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yeah.. good with zero user online...
wait till they launched and more subscribers then do the speed test again.. whistling.gif


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post Nov 16 2010, 08:06 PM

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What devices are they using to connect? Anyone knows the type of phone, modem etc?
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post Nov 16 2010, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(Jusb @ Nov 16 2010, 08:06 PM)
What devices are they using to connect? Anyone knows the type of phone, modem etc?
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There is 2 device... 1 call 4G hubble not mistaken is modem... and 4G dongle which attach to ur PC/PS3 or other....
I'm not so sure what phone they use cuz no mobile yet at testing area....
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post Nov 16 2010, 09:25 PM

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I'm interested on how the simless work on mobile phone hmm.gif ..
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post Nov 16 2010, 09:43 PM

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Spotted what I think is the YES Wimax Pico Station unit.
It was on mounted on the ceiling in the Lot 10 basement food court between Ho Weng Kee and Bistro Bavaria.

It's a all white square box about 10" a side with the the Samsung name in the middle.
It has a thin black stripe around the sides.
It has two white antennas and a blue LAN cable attached.
There is also thick black coax cable (LMR-400?)attached to it.
There is no power cord attached (POE maybe?).
A flashing red light is seen below the Samsung name.

Sorry no pictures because no camera with me.


Added on November 16, 2010, 9:50 pm
QUOTE(Forum-Modding Newb @ Nov 16 2010, 12:29 AM)
That would be sad. Skype calls, which are VoIP, are 60 min = 25.98MB which by your definition of 2.2sen/MB means a 1 minute VoIP call should = 0.9526 sen/minute!!! If they can pull this off the telcos are dead meat. Ok maybe they have to pay for interconnect fees to the Digis/Maxis/Celcoms of the world, add a few sen to that, you could get a price of less than 3-4 sen/minute theoretically, right?

How about SMS? An SMS is 140 bytes, again by your definition of 2.2 sen/MB the price of one SMS in an all-IP environment is..... 0.0003 sen!!!  blink.gif So best case scenario YTL Yes gives us 3-4 sen/minute off-net 1sen/min on-net calls and 3 sen/1000 SMS if they stick to 2.2 sen/MB data....

Nah, it probably won't happen. sweat.gif They'd probably get sued if they offer that kind of ultra-undercut price, but Francis Yeoh did say that "voice-centric business models of the established telcos are not sustainable" (quote from here).
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You misread my post.
I said that VOIP and SMS won't count towards your data usage.
It'll probably be charged the same way as other telcos - by minute and by message.

Of course if you want to use Skype then it will be counted as data just like when you pay monthly Streamyx to use it.
Not totally free is it?
Furthermore, Skype isn't free when calling off-net as you were implying in your post above.

This post has been edited by totally_skint: Nov 16 2010, 09:50 PM
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post Nov 16 2010, 09:52 PM

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Just saw the speedtest on Facebook. 10mb download, 2mb upload.

that's really fast.
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post Nov 16 2010, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(uexpress @ Nov 16 2010, 07:14 PM)
Speed are good.... tested today and play around...
using speedtest i can get around DL +- 7Mb/s, UL +- 5Mb/s (Cyberjaya server).
speedtest i can get around DL +- 4Mb/s, UL +- 3Mb/s (London server)

They use IP range starting from 124, ping around 6ms
Well i can't judge anything right now... let see till it launch...no package been leak at the moment...hehe

PS** i didnt get the speedtest.net screen because is today testing at LOT10....
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Same like P1 when they first started their services...
everything was fine until more user subscribing to their broadband...
Line become congested... and....
on that time... wallah! everything become horrible...

I'm really hoping that this YTL "4G" will not become like that.... notworthy.gif



This post has been edited by AjkR06: Nov 16 2010, 10:03 PM
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post Nov 16 2010, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(Tentris @ Nov 16 2010, 09:52 PM)
Just saw the speedtest on Facebook. 10mb download, 2mb upload.

that's really fast.
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With zero paying customers what do you expect? And i seem to recall in this forum a statement along the same line when p1 was launched.

Give them some time, maybe they are on to something.

Or maybe become like many of us have thought. An afterthought.
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post Nov 16 2010, 10:36 PM

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To clarify, all Internet connections ALREADY HAVE BANDWIDTH CAPS. It's just simple math; a 1.5Mbps connection will max out at approximately 400GB+ month. No matter how a 1.5Mbps connection user chooses to abuse this connection, his cap is there. My main peeve is with ISPs throwing out big numbers when it comes to bandwidth 10Mbps, 8Mbps, 11Mbps, and then applying a data cap that could easily be hit by a connection that is 10% of their advertised speed. If you are unable to support those speeds, don't market them.

Hey guys, I'm selling a Ferrari here... but you can only drive it 200 km a month, otherwise it turns into a Kancil. You still pay for a Ferrari though!!!

That is my opinion of a secondary data cap.
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or rather you pay for a ferrari, as part of the package, the manufacturer throws in enough petrol to go 200km. you want to go further, buy more petrol?
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post Nov 16 2010, 11:45 PM

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sneak preview of the devices:
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post Nov 17 2010, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(lin00b @ Nov 16 2010, 10:36 PM)
or rather you pay for a ferrari, as part of the package, the manufacturer throws in enough petrol to go 200km. you want to go further, buy more petrol?
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So basically if I sell you a Ferrari that turns into a Kancil after 200km you have no issues? Next time you go shopping for a car or house contact me... I'll definitely have good deals for you.
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QUOTE(totally_skint @ Nov 16 2010, 09:43 PM)

Added on November 16, 2010, 9:50 pm
You misread my post.
I said that VOIP and SMS won't count towards your data usage.
It'll probably be charged the same way as other telcos - by minute and by message.

Of course if you want to use Skype then it will be counted as data just like when you pay monthly Streamyx to use it.
Not totally free is it?
Furthermore, Skype isn't free when calling off-net as you were implying in your post above.
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I understood your post, that voice and SMS will have a different rate and not be considered data. My post was just imagining if voice/SMS was treated as data instead of something separate. tongue.gif

So guys, what would be a reasonable data price (per MB) you would pay for? If like skint's previous post that the current going rate is an expensive 2.2 sen/MB, I hope Yes can be in the region of 0.1 sen/MB (cheap like electricity pricing), if I can get 1-3Mbps no throttling no caps. 1Mbps true bandwidth would max out at 329GB per month, and be equivalent to a RM336.90 monthly bill! I'd pay for that for sure!!! thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif 0.1sen/MB = around RM1/GB.
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From what I've heard, it will be "slightly" below the current Maxis pricing for data... so you are most probably looking at about 3-4 sen. The premium is basically because the data charges are pay as you go (think along the lines of the call charges of Hotlink vs Postpaid) rather than a package deal.
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QUOTE(Forum-Modding Newb @ Nov 17 2010, 03:34 AM)

So guys, what would be a reasonable data price (per MB) you would pay for? If like skint's previous post that the current going rate is an expensive 2.2 sen/MB, I hope Yes can be in the region of 0.1 sen/MB (cheap like electricity pricing), if I can get 1-3Mbps no throttling no caps. 1Mbps true bandwidth would max out at 329GB per month, and be equivalent to a RM336.90 monthly bill! I'd pay for that for sure!!! thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif 0.1sen/MB = around RM1/GB.
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I'm on Jaring Wireless broadband 1Mbps RM69 and my monthly usage around 100GB a month. Even with RM1/GB it wont make sense for me to jump ship from Jaring to Yes. Maybe it will make sense if I travel a lot and want more speed (if Yes can deliver and i hope so) and don't mind to pay more. Yes is marketing mobile broadband after all.
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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Nov 16 2010, 10:03 PM)
Same like P1 when they first started their services...
everything was fine until more user subscribing to their broadband...
Line become congested... and....
on that time... wallah! everything become horrible...

I'm really hoping that this YTL "4G" will not become like that....  notworthy.gif
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The technology is the same, I won't expect much difference.
Businessman do business not charity ... lol


Added on November 17, 2010, 7:58 am
QUOTE(dannychen @ Nov 16 2010, 11:45 PM)
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The desktop modem is very cool, better than the P1 Tower.

But the phone, lol ... it's 5 years behind other smartphone.

This post has been edited by p4n6: Nov 17 2010, 07:58 AM
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QUOTE(JayC75 @ Nov 10 2010, 06:17 PM)
very confuse..no need their device and yet can call or sms and without simcard some more??  em...
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You NEED their device to call or sms.
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i hope this will settle up my lousy internet speed and connection problem by celcom bb....
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Nov 17 2010, 07:56 AM)
The technology is the same, I won't expect much difference.
Businessman do business not charity ... lol


Added on November 17, 2010, 7:58 am
The desktop modem is very cool, better than the P1 Tower.

But the phone, lol ... it's 5 years behind other smartphone.
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Black always stylish wat! smile.gif

I don't think that's a smartphone so it's comparable to other regular phones.


Added on November 17, 2010, 10:57 am
QUOTE(biatch0 @ Nov 17 2010, 03:40 AM)
From what I've heard, it will be "slightly" below the current Maxis pricing for data... so you are most probably looking at about 3-4 sen. The premium is basically because the data charges are pay as you go (think along the lines of the call charges of Hotlink vs Postpaid) rather than a package deal.
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What is Maxis' current pricing?

This post has been edited by totally_skint: Nov 17 2010, 10:57 AM

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