Then Choose Nvidia. Its ok whatever team u choose. as long as you like it. nothing will lose

What kind of problem? your card heating up is a normal thing, the HD3870 is designed to run at that temperature u can look at other forums like this -->http://www.hardwareheaven.com/amd-graphics...at-problem.html

The newer cards are much cooler and smaller cause of the smaller more advanced architecture that generates less heat. U might wanna compare the newer cards with the 3870 ur having, be it ATi or Nvidia the heat is always there...if all else fails, then you should go for watercooling

Guys, any one of you encountered PSU not giving enough juice to your graphic card? What's the symptoms of not enough power like?

1) not powering up

2) restart during load

3) OC even a little will result in crash

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Added on September 30, 2010, 9:11 pmur temperature is normal.
dat is wat u expect from OC version, wit slight voltage bump.
wit m'sia weather, dat temperature is perfectly fine.
probably long time dint clean fan or change thermal paste.
or maybe casing ventilation not good.

use ATI tray tools instead of rivatuner.
u can change clock speed & adjust voltage too.

This post has been edited by tech3910: Sep 30 2010, 09:11 PM

I just wanted to fix my graphic card , that's all , I dont know anything much , indeed my graphic card is hot at 60'c idle , so many years it's still hot staying at 60'c.

Sorry if I had offended when I speak .

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Added on September 30, 2010, 9:19 pmIf you can kindly look into my thread post , the card I was using doesn't have power play.I had been asking but no one reply at all.So i try and ask here .

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1579657/+20
Any help really appreciate

This post has been edited by Maxieos: Sep 30 2010, 09:19 PM

That's why you can't speak something like "ATi was always lame and hot!" or "ATi is problematic always!".
It's problematic for you "only". But, not for everyone and I would say MAJORITY.

By the way, there's no fix for your GPU. It's designed to run that hot and it won't spoil with that heat.

That is why I rather go for HD4870 last time.

Erm ,one thing , I never apply word "lame" or "problematic" and the reply was done with a question , "why"
I the "why" really makes you angry , here i sorry , I dont know asking this question will make people mad here.


I went to the website , and I read all , it seems like only bios fix can help but it's 50/50 chance to fix it. The one thing is I can't find the fix bios at the forum link you posted , and fix bios link where I can get it from ?

Lets say If I flash my bios and get corrupted , is there anyway to recover it back ? thanks

The Many kind of bios u can found from here: TechPowerUp

And the Guide for you:Yup, TechPowerUp again.

And... Your current 3870 bios is O.C Edition. The lowers you can go is 810Mhz only. while other can lower to 300Mhz. Try look any bios. Make sure GDDR4?

Sorry my friend, my knowledge no enough. This is the best i can help u now. currently

If you flash your bios and get bricked, i don't think there's any way to recover it back.

for my own information, a card that is overclocked are designed to withstand that heat. OC version graphic card are tends to be more hotter since they produce high performance, and here's the trade off, you trade heat for performance. There doesn't have a OC card that is grants you more performance as well as less heat.

In my opinion, get over it, flashing bios is just flashing it back to default normal graphic card, and that means you will lost the performance gain.

So please do get all the information before you flashing bios, because flashing bios might be able to fix your problem but it's also will leads you to other problems.

Edited : Spelling Error

This post has been edited by Cyclonechuah: Sep 30 2010, 10:55 PM

Your WHY is awesome. Now, I tell you WHY!

For example:

Why you're always so stupid?
Why you're always so crazy?
Why you're always like an idiot?

Why ATi was always so hot?
Why ATi was always no good?
Why ATi can't do anything better?

They're all the same. The problem is not with the WHY. WHY is innocence. The problem is the "why ATI WAS ALWAYS SO HOT".
Because MAJORITY do not encounter that but you're. So, you can't say that.
It offended those who have good impression on ATi.

no offence taken.
& i'm not criticizing o bashing u, i just lazy to type now, so type everything is pont form, straight to the point.

i read the thread edi, but i'll just reply here.

anyway, the reason behind no power play is bcoz ur bios is OC edition.
u dont hav to go through the trouble to flash bios if u;re not familiar wit it.
just use Ati Tray Tools.
create an idle profile, auto load that on startup.

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Added on September 30, 2010, 10:58 pmstill can be recovered.

can either blind flash bck, o hav the bricked card in the 2nd pci-e slot.

This post has been edited by tech3910: Sep 30 2010, 10:58 PM

Hi , I give up , sorry , here I apologize for my word saying "why" , so will you accept my apology ?

I understand about the overclock will tend to produce more heat , but right now I am having problem with the power play option.
The card which I am using doesn't active power play option of 300mhz for 2d , which is stay at 3d speed 810mhz once I boot up.In other words , this card having bios problem which does not able to active power play at all.

Since it's an AMD ATI talk at hardware thread , i dont want to interfere with any discussing on my problem.Hope anyone who are expert in bios mod or fixing this problem could help me out my HW q&a thread post .Thank you
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1579657/

His problem is not with the word 'why', so he cannot accept your apology with using the word 'why'.

His problem is with you complaining that "ATI WAS ALWAYS SO HOT" and similar stuff. That is a false statement for current generation of ATI cards. You should apologise for this slander.

This post has been edited by everling: Sep 30 2010, 11:18 PM

For what i believe, if you're asking for help, what can we do is supplying informations to you and supporting you to fix your problem.

In here, you can share your problems so we forumers can take a look at and gives you the information you needed, But please, no Ranting saying ATI sucks or problem blablabla, We are not here to share about your ranting issue.

And as well, In here no one is receiving any payment for helping as helping is voluntary carry out by our friendly forum users. Please do not "Hey, i got a problem, fix it for me, i got zero information from internet"

True. You're so clever. LOL.
The statement is dead wrong, it's misleading. I can't let this happen, it sucks!

oh , I really dont know about statement is so sensitive.Never know this generation here is so different.Sorry for the misunderstanding
Yeh here again I apologize my slander

Yes, statement in a forum is very sensitive. Because other people around the globe might be watching here too. So, don't try to mislead.

Your apologize had been accepted. I am not a very serious person actually if you know me in real life. LOL. XD

Ati Tray Tools... Thats new for me (Due to I don't have any problem with Ati before).

Relax, be gentlemen, there is no need to shout around while our friend making mistake/need simple help. Patience, explain, prove it. He solve his problem, you gain fame/knowledge. Both happy.

Don't make you look bad.

Btw Maxieos, you can try Ati Tray Tools suggest by Mr tech3910

Yes but I dont understand which option I should tick ?

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Added on September 30, 2010, 11:50 pmSorry I am new here , I dont understand any of those info there.

This post has been edited by Maxieos: Sep 30 2010, 11:50 PM