l have about 80 pCS of hitachi plce e27, 24w. Just use about 2 months. Shall report back here aftr 1/2years. .

My old man house half panasonic half philip. Plce,e27,18w. Panasonic still bright as new n non of the bulb need to change after 2 years while philip bulb getting dim n some kong

my wireman charge me RM90 for my first timer Hager EH711 (install during Nov 2011), and second timer Hager EH711 (installed today) RM100

Don't squeeze too much, they still need to breath.

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Added on February 20, 2012, 10:17 pmActually no need special skill, is just connecting 2 wires from source, and 2 wire to output.

This post has been edited by weikee: Feb 20 2012, 10:17 PM

yeah, saw they install, pretty simple and easy, I m installing the other water heater today so ask them to install the timer together to control my garden spotlight

I have stop using Philip for over 6yrss. Those made in Thailand Philip bulb can't last long. Now all using hitachi. Last as it claim.

I specially searching those old stock hitachi made in Japan cfl bulb. Very good quality. I will sapu their stock.

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Added on February 20, 2012, 11:15 pmIf not mistaken the cheap hager timer is without the backup battery.

This post has been edited by ozak: Feb 20 2012, 11:15 PM

backup battery for timer is redundant for me

wow... lucky i got my timer cheap...

not everybody can wire the timer ma

its good if got power trip the batt so small also.. not batt la its more like an ultra capacitor

My situation of using at the car porch for the timer where backup battery is need.

The timer is locate above the ceiling beside the downlight. So I can't always adjust the time. From morning till before I sleep, I off the main switch to the timer than to the light. But the timer is set ON at 7pm till 7am. So without the backup battery, the timer is stop working. When the time that I didn't OFF the main switch and require the timer run as usual is when I go for holiday or not in home.

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Added on February 21, 2012, 8:19 amprobably true. I never change the battery before since day 1. And it is 14yrs ago. Where got battery last that long 1. For 14 yrs, I only readjust the timer 2x. That is quite accurate running compare those china 1.

This post has been edited by ozak: Feb 21 2012, 08:19 AM

icic, if it is above ceiling then really needed, mine one is exposed just beside the switch, so that is why I dont need that.

Today read the star newspaper, got new panasonic LED bulb selling. It state if use 2.7hr/day can last for bla bla years. Don't understand about this.

anyone can let me know price to install downlight? i got 2 quotation, one is RM18 per unit(the place i purchase downlight, they told me if install more than 10 units, then can give price RM25 to install ceiling fan) and another is RM22 per unit(recommend by friend)... not sure which one to choose....

I tot install downlight only cost you RM5-10 per unit? Fan point should be RM20-30. Mind to share why your didn't ask wiremen to install for you as well?

For me, my contractor FOC for me included in light point price.

got price for YET, fitting alone RM8.00, normal bulb RM4.50 to RM5.50. The price you get RM13.50/set is very good. Try asking if you can just buy the fitting and then fit with PLC tubes and ballast. the YET downlight can also use PLC tubes, just ask them to change to PLC holder. Philips PLC18W tube costs RM6.00/pc and good ballast cost RM5.50 (Sova brand). The lighting shop can give very good price coz they order in bulk, and also they always fight price among themselves

Any lighting idea can refer? Recently renovating my house, searching for some lighting idea for living room, bedroom and kitchen.

U need to decide how bright u want, then just go for design.

my soho got the ready cable and aircon piping and those switch, all done by developer.... now headace where to find installation RM5 per unit.... u got any recommend?

This post has been edited by mindygan: Feb 24 2012, 04:54 PM

depends on the type of designs you like. don't go for too fanciful ones, the designs may not tahan lama white downlights are easiest on the eyes, especially low ceiling situation. get bulbs where there are ready replacements, like energy savers. LEDs are getting popular becos of the low power consumption, but good ones are too expensive. cheaper versions don't last, esp the driver(transformer).

Definitely go green. Think energy saving, no fancy chandeliers that uses cfl. Downlights and ambient lighting are quite expensive since u need to put a lot plus plaster ceiling cost but they look really nice and zero maintenance. Dont put downlights everywhere, mix and match with other types.

Living room can either put energy savings chandelier, downlight or even track lighting. Dining room put pendant lighting but if ceiling low use ceiling mounted lights instead. Kitchen more suitable use downlights. Toilet use wall mounted lights at both sides of a mirror.

This post has been edited by vetkin_gray: Feb 25 2012, 12:34 AM

Tq guys for the idea.

for downlights, anyone knows what i should look out for if property is near to the sea? what to avoid?