well if you use the d/light n using the light save bulb ..then u cannot use the dimmer...

if you use the with glass for th d/light so you need to be rajin lor as in 3 months time kena open up n clean the dead insect..

spiral is better light than 3 or 4 'U' bulb type...

plus the color of the light - Warm / Cool Daylight / Daylight makes the difference of the area..if not percaya then try all these type color...your wall color will look so different due to the it...

anyway..all back to personal opinion...cheers..

energy saving bulb can also do dimmer nowadays, is about twice the price of a normal energy saving bulb... It is available infact.

oh. in tat case i can use these spotlights, put in a dimmer & use energy saving bulbs! best of all worlds!

hehehe..unless yr pocket can say so.....

yikes. how much you reckon it will cost?

antzan makes a very good point up there..


1st - the type of buld. I use the standard 18w plc philip.

2nd - the colour! cool daylight will give you a flourescent type of brightness - a bit to white to my likin (read : my likin might not the same with your likin ya! )
- the daylight - for is just nice bright with a tint of yellowish.
- the warm - wargh this one - is too yellow already..! - but it depend on your liking lah.

3rd - if you use all cfl light (energy saving bulb) - there's no way you can use dimmer to the cfl. the only option is - this is what i do to the house - group the light into certain group. - means you can divide the light into sectional or you can group it into half-half.. or whatever pattern you like ler.

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for some example of how bright is my house.. after installing all the christmas light.. click below :

Akhirnya menyala! (lampu)

this blog chronicles some of my renovation work done to my house.. you can also leave a comment there.. . (but process is done deal lah! - so learn from my mistake or something that might inspired you! chewaah)

This post has been edited by morpheuzneo: Jul 7 2010, 07:20 PM

Dimmerable energy saving bulbs.

http://www.litebulbs.co.uk/category/86/dimming.aspx

Lots of them!

You can hunt for local one from houz depot in mutiara damansara too...

energy saving bulb not dimmerable, is past history now.

looking at your link above - if i use the standard 18w plc bulb and replace with this dimmerable light buld - the cost is 11 uk pound = convert to MRY = > 11 British pounds = 53.723548 Malaysian ringgits

wow.! if i had 50 light point? how much for a bulb?

the normal philips 18w plc energy saving bulb only cost me around RM4 to max RM4.50.

if using non branded - around rm2 ringgit only.

so.. does it worth it?

u are not going to have dimmerable light point all over your house are you ..

First and foremost, dont listen to any SH idea of using LED to brighten up the room. For some fancy corner visual effect or narrow corridor fine!

LED output and brightness is the worst in terms of per dollar! Also the reliability is questionable as too many china mali!

Even the GE or OSRAM can be fake also what with LED without branding.

Since you rewiring and plaster ceiling to be done, I suggest you to work out with your cont to have separate switches perhaps 1 switch for 2 downlight. When chosing down light go for 6 or 8in size. Anything smaller is useless and cant accomodate higher watts bulb.

You can chose the round vertical or Square horizontal. With the square horizontal, you can opt to 2 bulb per point. The upgrade cost is very minimal. Your wall color and furnishing can dictate the brightness so if you have twin bulb system, you can remove one when its too bright.

My living room is about 28ftx16ft. I have only 8 single down light with 18w each. The one near the wall, I have it on warm yellowish for ambience. the rest just warm white. I also have a track halogen light near another wall for ambience and mood setting each one is 30w. Because of my living/dining, I have 2 lamp shade hanging down at 18w each.

When I want it bright, I just own 4 down light and thats it. Switching on all will make it brighter than day time. My friend did the same but he was on twin bulb, ended up he have to remove one bulb each to prevent night blindness glare!

If you carefully place the downlight in your room, you can save alot in term of electricity, bulb and quantity.

I use 4pcs 6" downlight and 18w saving bulb to enough light my master bedroom. And it quite bright. The bulb last for 7-8yrs before each change.

went light shoppin this weekend, so many choices of lights, even for downlights - there's the square & circle ones, with one bulb or two...gosh.....

anyways, one of the sales person suggested that i use something like this for my high ceiling...



wonder if it will look ok with really long wires dangling from two stories high? hmmmm

yup for your downlight maybe you also can link it using the 'IC' box..e.g using the same 1 switch..on 1st..light A on..then again using the same switch other light on or both row on...walaaaaa...

chk the detail on the bulb itself..ado china mali lor..

also what theme u want it to b...cozy or bright....some color bulb makes your wall color dull...

plus chk the type of the bulb...screw or plc....spiral or u type....

chk wther your DB board can cope with amount of the lights if all on...takut trip or fire hazard..

chk the wiring also using the 2.0mm ?...takut they curi curi using the thin 1...

you can have the dimmer energy saving but all comes to the budget lor...

or you can also option using the remote light control...e.g 'TOMATO' remote control...so wisely plan your wiring...like most lighting shop do..but makes you a 'Potato Coach'..hehehe...

This post has been edited by antzan: Jul 11 2010, 06:58 PM


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wow. ok, there's a long checklist of things i need to be weary of... thanks ya!~ will keep that in mind when i go light shoppin again...

btw, jus to share, i went to Old Klang Road & notice that they price is wayyyy cheaper than the one i check in SS2 ytd... but in terms of quality wise, im am not so sure. however, for the hanging pendant light (similiar to the photo attached earlier), the one in SS2 "workmanship" more "fine".... maybe i will get the downlights from OKR & the hanging lights from ss2

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Added on July 11, 2010, 10:32 pmbtw- i have two conflicting opinions from two diff light vendors. some say use the one with choker - longer life span for the bulb. another one mention that no diff usin choker or non-choker, in fact choker more costly & inconvinient to maintain for homes..

anyone to share their experience?

This post has been edited by kathlynn: Jul 11 2010, 10:32 PM

antzan, mind to clarify meaning of "makes you a potato coach"....

Which shops in OKR by the way?

Try check around in puchong. Than you know where is the cheapest.

Yes, choke type more longer lifespan. Mind last 7-8yrs. Most of the saving bulb spoil cause by electronic parts. Which cause by the heat.

its a figurative meaning of one who lies down & does nothing

This post has been edited by kathlynn: Jul 12 2010, 01:37 PM

Potato Coach - kebuncitan yg meningkat like me lor...

yes..choke better ..but..all depends on u ler..plus it your d/light have glass then chances to burn more..as heat....

chk price at Avalon also...mind me not sales man avalon but some places can get cheap if u do survey...anyway i'm in melaka...so being scout around gila babe...good luck in your survey...

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Added on July 12, 2010, 1:25 pmso 1stly..you ned to determine the theme or purpose of your lighting..

then total lights needed or 'LUMEN'..then size or type

Can it be done ..Your DB can carry or not..better print picture and plot the size or the area..

then Survey time...if not wasting time n RM$ ajer....

This post has been edited by antzan: Jul 12 2010, 01:25 PM

i went to two shops. one next to alken, the other right opposite. didnt get the name of the shops tho. sorry. but if u drive pass at night, u wont miss it!

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Added on July 12, 2010, 1:41 pmmy hse kecik aje, & im gettin a new DB, so i think it can carry....

i takda theme for lighting la - as simple as "as long as boleh nampak, ok edi"

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Added on July 12, 2010, 1:45 pmbtw, this is the price i got from a few shops (on average) on square downlight

ss2 - RM30 (for 2 bulbs, excl bulbs. this is w choker)

jkl - RM10 (for 2 bulbs, excl bulbs. this is without choker)

This post has been edited by kathlynn: Jul 12 2010, 01:45 PM