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TSkathlynn
post Jul 20 2010, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(koled_anie @ Jul 19 2010, 10:19 PM)
wat is ur kitchen size? wall height?
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14ft by 14 ft. wall height bout 10-11ft? not so sure...
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post Jul 20 2010, 12:06 PM

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14' x 14' area 4 downlight should be enough edi....if u didnt plan to put ceiling fan then can add hang type deco lamp in centre to backup if not bright enough...
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post Jul 20 2010, 03:30 PM

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Four enough?

Someone even suggested 9 or 12.
I am not sure on what basis. How do you come up with 4 if you don’t mind me askin?

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post Jul 20 2010, 05:21 PM

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if u use 6" downlight either square or round shape it should be enough...
the hang type lamp will cover if still not enough...

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post Jul 20 2010, 07:43 PM

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yup should be enough ...your kitchen cabinate have light under it?...max 6...but u can still format it lights on in pairs...or in 3's..or 4's then 2's..on together...that will save your energy as some times u don't need to on all at once..plus then use the 21 watt bulb lor...

mine dry - 8 X 19 using only 4pc (6" - 18watt)...on squence 1 n 3..or all on using the 'IC' box..
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post Jul 20 2010, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(antzan @ Jul 20 2010, 07:43 PM)
yup should be enough ...your kitchen cabinate have light under it?...max 6...but u can still format it lights on in pairs...or in 3's..or 4's then 2's..on together...that will save your energy as some times u don't need to on all at once..plus then use the 21 watt bulb lor...

mine dry - 8 X 19 using only 4pc (6" - 18watt)...on squence 1 n 3..or all on using the 'IC' box..
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wat color used? warm light?
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post Jul 20 2010, 09:38 PM

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Hi light experts,

My living area about 14ft X16ft, height 9-10ft. how many 6inches (square) downlight do you think require? one bulb or 2 bulbs?
plan for plain board plaster ceiling only, no Lbox, and fan in centre.
Thanks...
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post Jul 20 2010, 10:03 PM

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depends on what purpose u want it to be..cozy mozy or bright?...d/light with glass or w/out?....whats the watt bulb per d/light?...wall color?...any windows?...
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post Jul 20 2010, 10:17 PM

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prefer bright living room. and plan to have square downlight with glass cover. 1 bulb or 2 bulbs recommend for 1downlight? or one 24W bulb enough? wall colour - white, one side with 3 panel glass sliding door...
thx ya...

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post Jul 20 2010, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(DFMao @ Jul 20 2010, 09:38 PM)
Hi light experts,

My living area about 14ft X16ft, height 9-10ft. how many 6inches (square) downlight do you think require? one bulb or 2 bulbs?
plan for plain board plaster ceiling only, no Lbox, and fan in centre.
Thanks...
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hmm...urs 1 almost similar 2 mine...i'm planning to put only 5pcs 6" square with 1 L-Box...haven't install yet, but planning to put onli 1 bulb 1st even i bought it with 2 bulbs. need to try 1st, if not bright enuf onli will add another 1.if oredi bright then balance will put in bedroom as i haven't bought casing yet...

if 16' x 14' 6pcs square single bulb should be enuf, backup if not bright put deco lamp in center to cover it...it can act as a deco as well....
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TSkathlynn
post Jul 21 2010, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(koled_anie @ Jul 20 2010, 10:23 PM)
hmm...urs 1 almost similar 2 mine...i'm planning to put only 5pcs 6" square with 1 L-Box...haven't install yet, but planning to put onli 1 bulb 1st even i bought it with 2 bulbs. need to try 1st, if not bright enuf onli will add another 1.if oredi bright then balance will put in bedroom as i haven't bought casing yet...

if 16' x 14' 6pcs square single bulb should be enuf, backup if not bright put deco lamp in center to cover it...it can act as a deco as well....
antzan, any comments?  brows.gif

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ahh...let me know the outcome after u install. will use urs a a gauge for mine! smile.gif
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post Jul 21 2010, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(kathlynn @ Jul 21 2010, 06:54 PM)
ahh...let me know the outcome after u install. will use urs a a gauge for mine! smile.gif
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i dunno when to do installation yet...developer haven't hand over house key yet. oredi 2 months delay.....huhuhuhu cry.gif


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post Jul 22 2010, 04:13 PM

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the L box - have any T5 lights in it?...warm light should be ok...if u intend to install the d/light w glass then be 'RAJIN' lor to clean every 2 months once...plus easy to blow due to heat contain in it...plus less bright due to glass frosted..so higher watt need have..right?..but less glare..but if you use the warm white then won't be glare..no glass cheaper d/light...more bright..less power use..save RM$$$$$...

my living hall - L box with warm light in it...bright enough..so when on no need to have the all the d/light ( 1 pc/dwnlight - 18 watt - spiral) on...just like hotel ambience feel...thats why u need to plan which light on n off...so in long run save $$...feel hotel ambience..the L box also you can have it 2 color in it..hehehe...tadaaaaaa....using the 'IC' box( warm and blue color).

if wanna bright..install 21watt spiral..for info deco light usually using the warm light..more deco feel...

Anyway...my advice to u ...b4 u buy d/light..test 1st..the brightness of it...with or w/out glass...color bulb in it...all advice is up to u to follow..plus your pocket also...n 'RAJIN' to clean..

me no expert..just a guy who house alrdy 3 months delay..perhhh..so house in final stage fitting..trial n error..myb will post my living with light on for yr comment ...
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post Jul 22 2010, 05:38 PM

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Square type is more expensive than Round type, and some square can put 2 bulbs.
There are alot of combinations, square/round, size 4"/6", got cover/no cover, material aluminium/chrome/metal/stainless steel, with balast/no balast.

Functionality is more or less same, appearance is subjective. Of coz personally i feel square type is nicer and stainless steel is better too but higher price.
Practically and $$ wise, i prefer round shape 4" with no cover and no balast.

Reasons?
Round shape - Square shape is harder to cut the plaster ceiling compare to round (contractor might charged higher for installation)

No cover - If got cover, it is hotter, ur bulb life might burn easier. Harder to change bulb coz need to open the cover and normally cover will trap alot insects inside.
4" - Subjective choice coz i think 6" too big  tongue.gif

No balast - Generally light with balast will last longer but harder to change. And if u do looping wiring of few lights, one of the balast spoil, u need to troubleshoot which 1 spoil coz all the lights can't be turn on. If no balast it is easier to change urself if anything wrong but the life is shorter.

Material aluminium - Stainless steel too exp, metal will rusty, so i get aluminium.
For energy saving bulb, u have 3U or spiral light. 3U is cheaper price. Normally the wattage is around 18W-20W, of coz if u want brighter u can buy higher power.

Brands u got Philips, Osram and GE, of coz those cap ayam brands also. Personally i prefer GE becoz the quality is better but more pricey. It is harder to find in light shops too. Most will carry Osram and Philips. If u want save, buy Philips, this batch Osram really screw up in quality, the bulb burn frequently, ask in those lighting shop u will know.

Color, u got white, cool white and warm white. In laymen term, those yellowish light we saw is warm white, white color is white and cool white is like those Mc.Donald restaurant light, in the middle of yellow and white. I prefer cool white but the only famous brand has cool white is Osram so I give it a miss, unless u want try those cap ayam brand. Else, u might try to mix some white and warm white.
Some info i posted in another thread if u guys interested

DFMao
post Jul 22 2010, 06:01 PM

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Thanks for all the advice & info smile.gif
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post Jul 22 2010, 07:50 PM

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there you are..our sifu - harrychoo...

using the alu..as house nearby seaside..2km...haiyo..so no no to metal...mostly using the cool white...
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post Jul 22 2010, 07:55 PM

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Nola, not sifu, also based on recent renovation experience.

If u guys interested with cool white (i like it very much) energy saving bulb, can consider a brand called Arex, as good as GE.
Avoid Osram at all cost.
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post Jul 22 2010, 08:14 PM

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me using ' aluminious'....i think...so far ok...the amp also lower than phillip and osram..
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post Jul 24 2010, 09:25 AM

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anybody using Aletko bulb? any comments?
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post Jul 24 2010, 05:22 PM

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here my living n dinning area for your view n comment...house nearly complete..already delay 3months..


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