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antzan
post Jul 12 2010, 02:17 PM

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chk 1st what is your height of your ceiling..as higher it goes the bigger area light shown...

anyway why need 2 light bulb in it?too bright nanti...more bulb more power..more heat generate...then if w glass chances to burn higher..plus glaring...
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post Jul 12 2010, 06:45 PM

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is pin type and screw type energy saver bulb both got choker? i'm planning to use 6" square downlight for my living hall size around 16 feet x 13 feet (use 8pcs square) will need 2 bulbs or 1 already enough?

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post Jul 12 2010, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(koled_anie @ Jul 12 2010, 06:45 PM)
is pin type and screw type energy saver bulb both got choker? i'm planning to use 6" square downlight for my living hall size around 16 feet x 13 feet (use 8pcs square) will need 2 bulbs or 1 already enough?
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i have the same question with you. some salesperson say 1 is enough, another say two.

but to be safer, if u sked, then go for two, bcoz if its too bright, u can remove one bulb...

but if u go for one, u cant add another.....
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post Jul 12 2010, 08:03 PM

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wow 8 pc too much lor...too bright...myb 6 enough...plus when do wiring ..do section 'on' by section..

if on not all light will on at 1 time...so better control of it...mine using 6" but - 1 bulb...4 unit only but i have 'L' box with T5 in it...section on - a) at sofa..b) at TV cabinate...make it cozy it needed plus 1 show downlight that have 360' degree turning just to have the centre piece light shown....area 17ft X 14ft...wall color near magnolia color..JOTUN....using the remote control..


Added on July 12, 2010, 8:07 pmor maybe you can post your ceiling pic...for better advise...your downlight have glass?...with frosted or clear glass?...what is height of your ceiling?...


Added on July 12, 2010, 8:08 pmplus yours is slim or the cone type?

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post Jul 12 2010, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(antzan @ Jul 12 2010, 08:03 PM)
wow 8 pc too much lor...too bright...myb 6 enough...plus when do wiring ..do section 'on' by section..

if on not all light will on at 1 time...so better control of it...mine using 6" but - 1 bulb...4 unit only but i have 'L' box with T5 in it...section on - a) at sofa..b) at TV cabinate...make it cozy it needed plus 1 show downlight that have 360' degree turning just to have the centre piece light shown....area 17ft X 14ft...wall color near magnolia color..JOTUN....using the remote control..


Added on July 12, 2010, 8:07 pmor maybe you can post your ceiling pic...for better advise...your downlight have glass?...with frosted or clear glass?...what is height of your ceiling?...


Added on July 12, 2010, 8:08 pmplus yours is slim or the cone type?
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frosted one seems better (IMHO). less glaring.... bt again, it depends!
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post Jul 12 2010, 08:41 PM

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that why..frosted ok but its blocks some light...like u said...some frosted glass have the 'Rainbow' effect..nice..mine cannot as hse 2km frm sea....so..ned to use the aluminium only...n beside 'SAWAH' windy.....plus more window opening n have sliding door at living area..'NATURAL' light...

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post Jul 13 2010, 07:07 PM

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i tips to buy light bulb at bulk price - I go to contractor lighting supplier.

In jalan pudu got few shop behind the eletronic shop selling in bulk.

Quite cheap - can get 3.50 - 4.50 (depending on quantity you're buying) for Philips 18w PLC light.
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post Jul 13 2010, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(antzan @ Jul 12 2010, 08:03 PM)
wow 8 pc too much lor...too bright...myb 6 enough...plus when do wiring ..do section 'on' by section..

if on not all light will on at 1 time...so better control of it...mine using 6" but - 1 bulb...4 unit only but i have 'L' box with T5 in it...section on - a) at sofa..b) at TV cabinate...make it cozy it needed plus 1 show downlight that have 360' degree turning just to have the centre piece light shown....area 17ft X 14ft...wall color near magnolia color..JOTUN....using the remote control..


Added on July 12, 2010, 8:07 pmor maybe you can post your ceiling pic...for better advise...your downlight have glass?...with frosted or clear glass?...what is height of your ceiling?...


Added on July 12, 2010, 8:08 pmplus yours is slim or the cone type?
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i haven't get chance to tke the pic yet....will update it soon once available.... icon_idea.gif
antzan
post Jul 14 2010, 09:56 AM

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2day contractor gonna fix my d/light....
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post Jul 14 2010, 10:35 PM

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now i'm planning to put 5pcs downlight at the living hall (size around 16ft X 16ft) + L-Box with T5 only above TV cabinet area, ceiling height around 11ft to 12ft. i attached my downlight grid location with the square type 6" i plan to put. plan to do wiring to control:-
(1) 2 bulb side of fan + 1 bulb center of bulb (1 switch)
(2) 2 bulb on side of the centre bulb (1 switch)
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any sifus here can give some comment and advice.... notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(koled_anie @ Jul 14 2010, 10:35 PM)
now i'm planning to put 5pcs downlight at the living hall (size around 16ft X 16ft) + L-Box with T5 only above TV cabinet area, ceiling height around 11ft to 12ft. i attached my downlight grid location with the square type 6" i plan to put. plan to do wiring to control:-
(1) 2 bulb side of fan + 1 bulb center of  bulb (1 switch)
(2) 2 bulb on side of the centre bulb (1 switch)
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any sifus here can give some comment and advice.... notworthy.gif

thanks! rclxms.gif
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any sifus can help to comment on my setting?

thanks!! notworthy.gif

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post Jul 16 2010, 10:39 PM

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Any window or liding door?..where is your main door?...if middle d/light above sofa maybe you can change to projector light with 2 lights (360 degree turn)...then myb you can have show centre piece on the centre sofa table if all off except these light...

your front 2 d/light near tv - as 1 switch...then above sofa 1 switch..projector light - 1 switch...your L box - 1 switch...fan 1 switch..plus if u add the remote..hehehe...nice lor...you can make it cozy mozy...haiya..bestnyaaaa...just my personal opinion...peace to all...
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post Jul 16 2010, 11:14 PM

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how about this one, the yellow color is the projector light 360 but only 1 bulb each...others down light color showed the switch combination control... rclxub.gif

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any comments? is it will cozy mozy as well?? hahaha... tongue.gif


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post Jul 17 2010, 05:44 PM

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ok..what color is your wall?...is there any L box?...any window?...as certain color wall does have effect upon color of the bulb...same make the wall pale ..some make it wow...

living hall guest n family hall have the partition 'Fung shui'?....location of the sofa?...

Ensure your fan using the 60" type w 5 blade...if not..haiya....



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post Jul 18 2010, 10:52 PM

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wall color something like light cream color. wat bulb color suitable 4 it? d blue color bold is L box area. sofa will be L shape opposite d l-box...

there's 1 window beside main entrance & another 1 on side of it in the living hal 4 guest....no window for family hall.... smile.gif

yup, will put the mighty sensa 5 on family area...kekeke...2hp aircond for family hall will be next phase reno...
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post Jul 19 2010, 10:50 AM

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for the color bulb its depend on personel like...test 1st warm type.. ..then warm white...as light color does have effect on the wall color that either bring out the color of it...

wow sensa 5..KDK....RM580/pc...A/con - take Daikin - can use the normal piping even inverter type..cheaper cost...


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post Jul 19 2010, 12:04 PM

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guys, lighting sifus..

Imagine my dining area is :
1. A triangular area
2. plaster ceiling with upturn to host the downlights.
3. Ceiling fan in the middle of the area

Will the lights throw from the downlights on 4 sides of the triangular plaster ceiling creates any shadow while we have our meals?? Please enlighten if you have any experience in placing downlights..
koled_anie
post Jul 19 2010, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(antzan @ Jul 19 2010, 10:50 AM)
for the color bulb its depend on personel like...test 1st warm type.. ..then warm white...as light color does have effect on the wall color that either bring out the color of it...

wow sensa 5..KDK....RM580/pc...A/con - take Daikin - can use the normal piping even inverter type..cheaper cost...
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i think wanna put warm white 1st...d shop said still can change if not satisfy with d bulb color....hope warm white will not effect d wall color....i kinda like d slightly yellowish color... icon_rolleyes.gif

got mine sensa 5 for only RM555, bought 1 set onli specially for my family hall (let them enjoy it smile.gif. living hall & kitchen using only K14Y9-MP onli, still 5 blade. Room all use wall type... thumbup.gif

planning to get Daikin also, but with such big area i dun think inverter will work well....what do u think.... hmm.gif

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post Jul 19 2010, 05:28 PM

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well....check this out

Size your room correctly! A quick way to calculate aircond cooling capacity for your room is:

i. find volume of room in cubic feet - length x width x height and multiply by 6.
ii. add 500btu per person in the room to this figure.
example. 12' x 15' x 8' = 1440 cubic ft. multiply by 6 = 8640. add 500 for one person = 9140. This means the room needs an AC unit of about 9000btu/h to cool it properly.

This is very important as a unit with cooling capacity too high for your room will turn on and off frequently (when the compressor turns on, it draws A LOT OF power compared to when it is running normally, just like turning our PCs on and off frequently, you wouldn't do that right?) and unable to remove moisture from your room efficiently. A unit too low will take a long time and consume a lot of power to cool your room. So size and match your room to aircond capacity properly!

2. pay attention to the (energy efficiency rating) EER number on the unit's specification sheet. Avoid brands that do not furnish this number either on their website or product brochures. The higher the EER the more efficient it is (uses less power to do the same job as lower rated ones). To calculate EER, take the btu and divide by the unit's power input in watts. example, 9000btu/900watts = 10 EER. In general, buy units with 10 and above EER.

3. Be careful with btu/h numbers, some companies round this number up. Pay attention to the cooling capacity in kilowatts. 1 kW = 3.412 btu/h. My new SHARP is listed as 9000btu/h but on the compressor, it is listed as only 2.5kW meaning it really is only 8530btu/h with an EER of only 9.22. Bummer!

4. Inverter units are not worth the extra cost in purchase price, installation and maintenance. They will only save $$ if run continuously at temperatures around 26C or 27C and if the room is very well insulated. So if you run your aircond infrequently (only on hot days) and at 24C, it's best to just buy a normal non-inverter unit.

5. Even though units with high EER may use less power (such as the 5 star energy star panasonic models), they cost a bomb and it will take several years for you to recover the difference in cost in terms of savings unless you run it everyday for 10 or more hours per day (such as office environment). For example, even though my Sharp has a lower EER rating it is cheaper than a similar Sharp unit with high EER but costs about 300-400 more. Using a convenient excel calculator, I can save about RM50 per year based on normal usage which, in theory, means it will take 6-8 years to recover the initial cost. This does not take into account servicing costs. So decide what suits you.


anyway...it would be like in a hotel/resort feel..nice...try to have remote in also...remote i think can get for less than RM40..

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post Jul 19 2010, 09:19 PM

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gosh, havin this big headache bout lightin my kitchen. went to a couple of lighting shop & all of them gave diff opinion. varies from 4 light points to 9 light points!

im thinkin of jus doin 6... but am woried that its too much/too lil.....

sigh.
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QUOTE(kathlynn @ Jul 19 2010, 09:19 PM)
gosh, havin this big headache bout lightin my kitchen. went to a couple of lighting shop & all of them gave diff opinion. varies from 4 light points to 9 light points!

im thinkin of jus doin 6... but am woried that its too much/too lil.....

sigh.
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wat is ur kitchen size? wall height?

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