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yuvanesh
post Aug 25 2010, 09:21 PM

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Have you guys try on the flash on video and the check on the screen what colour display..is it white..blueish..yellow???
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post Aug 25 2010, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(yuvanesh @ Aug 25 2010, 09:21 PM)
@giovani @orangbulu

Have you guys try on the flash on video and the check on the screen what colour display..is it white..blueish..yellow???
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Hi bro Yuvanesh, I haven't really tried video but flash on still picture appears to be yellow as well. Some said it was hardware issue but the Apple technician said it was software and wants me to write a feedback. He said the more ppl write in the better so that apple will do something about it in the next firmware update. The technician's own Iphone displayed the same issue.

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post Aug 25 2010, 09:41 PM

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@giovani @orangbulu >
fluorescent lighting is in fact blue'ish, hehe.

like i said earlier, my iP4 only arriving this weekend so I'll do comparisons then. However if the phone, under normal/daylight/white lighting, is taking yellow/orange skin tone photos then yes it is indeed a big problem.
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post Aug 25 2010, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Aug 25 2010, 09:41 PM)
@giovani @orangbulu >
fluorescent lighting is in fact blue'ish, hehe.

like i said earlier, my iP4 only arriving this weekend so I'll do comparisons then. However if the phone, under normal/daylight/white lighting, is taking yellow/orange skin tone photos then yes it is indeed a big problem.
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Yeah if it is yellow light I would probably just think it was the lighting issue. Actually I only noticed this issue when I took the picture of that girl (second picture). Initially I thought must be the yellow and white lighting in the house. Then the next day I took a pic in the washroom of my lab (since it is white light) and to my disbelief it turned out like that. Then I tried it under natural lighting (the sun of course) and it was ok. I went over to Apple and tested 3 display units. 2 of them were ok but the pic taken with flash still appeared to be yellow. The 3rd unit was similar to mine. Then I asked an Apple specialist there and we both compared our camera and found similar issue. He alleged that it was a software issue and asked me to write in to Apple. Then here I am posting my comments.

I hope yours will be ok. Some ppl in Apple forum said that they had exchanged 6 to 7 units in order to get a good one. Hope we don't have to do that. I seriously hope that it is a software issue which will be ironed out in the next firmware update.
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post Aug 25 2010, 10:30 PM

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ah yes, if it's under white fluorescent lighting it should be blueish instead of yellowish tongue.gif i believe that's a valid concern

will test it out myself whenever maxis launches it haha
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post Aug 25 2010, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Aug 25 2010, 10:30 PM)
ah yes, if it's under white fluorescent lighting it should be blueish instead of yellowish tongue.gif i believe that's a valid concern

will test it out myself whenever maxis launches it haha
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Are you suggesting it is a hardware flaw? I will definitely demand an exchange if it is!
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post Aug 25 2010, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(yuvanesh @ Aug 25 2010, 09:21 PM)
@giovani @orangbulu

Have you guys try on the flash on video and the check on the screen what colour display..is it white..blueish..yellow???
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got flash also blue.

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post Aug 25 2010, 10:58 PM

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Bro, can try to capture another of your hand with and without flash to see?
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post Aug 25 2010, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(giovanni @ Aug 25 2010, 10:58 PM)
Bro, can try to capture another of your hand with and without flash to see?
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you want a picture of my hands?


Added on August 25, 2010, 11:05 pmLeft is no flash, right is flash

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post Aug 25 2010, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(orangbulu @ Aug 25 2010, 10:59 PM)
you want a picture of my hands?


Added on August 25, 2010, 11:05 pmLeft is no flash, right is flash

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all right, that says it. I am going back to Apple store tomorrow to get a replacement.
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post Aug 25 2010, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(giovanni @ Aug 25 2010, 11:39 PM)
all right, that says it. I am going back to Apple store tomorrow to get a replacement.
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they will give u a refurbish set after 2 weeks...
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post Aug 26 2010, 01:06 AM

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Refurbs won't be available just yet
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post Aug 26 2010, 01:55 AM

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no im not suggesting it's a hardware defect. juz software

u cannot compare with orangbulu's photos. the best way is to get another iphone 4 n take photos at the exact same conditions, same place, same time. emphasis on EXACT.

orangbulu blueish tint for flash is actually normal, even for DSLRs smile.gif it works like this. the flash colour output is white. if u take a photo in a very orange background, the camera will attempt to adjust the white balance to be a little bit cooler (more blueish to counter the orange). thus the orange background will look more natural, but the white flash will be blueish. that's why some photographers have coloured filters to change the flash output colour to better match the lighting. tricky right?

example, taken with a canon 350D SLR with built-in flash:
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that photo is taken in a restaurant where the lights are all orange. it doesnt look orange in this photo because the camera tweaked the white balance, but the white flash became blue. an orange filter for the flash would fix this

it also goes the other way around. take a photo with flash in a blueish background, the camera will attempt to make it hotter (more orange to counter the blue) so that the blueish part looks more natural. but the white flash becomes an orange tint.

again, this doesnt happen every single time as modern cameras are pretty smart controlling the white balance. it just misjudges from time to time. my lumix LX3 had really bad white balance control before, but a simple firmware update solved the problem smile.gif

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post Aug 26 2010, 04:24 AM

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thank god for now my ip4 no problem at all biggrin.gif
just havent taken out the screen protector at the back, taking pctures at night with flash turns the whole picture into this transparent blue'ish colour.
still waiting for the my sp smile.gif
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post Aug 26 2010, 05:14 AM

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i'm waiting for my ip4 to reach tomorrow..when reading at all your post, now i felt afraid already if my set later got the camera's images symptoms like u guys talking about...hopefully mine got no issues...

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post Aug 26 2010, 05:47 AM

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bless u all brothers...hope things go well with you both!
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post Aug 26 2010, 06:15 AM

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QUOTE(orangbulu @ Aug 25 2010, 10:48 PM)
got flash also blue.

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err bro, did u notice a discolored blotch in the middle of your photo?


Added on August 26, 2010, 6:16 am
QUOTE(zwanvedder @ Aug 26 2010, 06:05 AM)
my set would arrive to me next week...if i got prob with my set, how do i claim d warranty...? can i sen to any apple reseller in Singapore or Malaysia to claim d warranty?
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bro, don't say until like that. It is just me being unlucky I guess. Yours will be fine.

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orangbulu
post Aug 26 2010, 06:58 AM

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Its not a hardware problem ba, most people phone like this, can be fixed by software update. If its really hardware prob apple need mass recall d
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post Aug 26 2010, 07:14 AM

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QUOTE(orangbulu @ Aug 26 2010, 06:58 AM)
Its not a hardware problem ba, most people phone like this, can be fixed by software update. If its really hardware prob apple need mass recall d
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If they don't want to acknowledge then forever wont be fixed lo. That's y we need to send feedback
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post Aug 26 2010, 10:21 AM

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Hopefully a Software patch could fix this problem. When the htc hd2 ( windows mobile 6.5) was launched, all users complain about the pinkish tint in the centre on camera shots. A software patch was released about 2 months later and problem no longer. However in the hd2 it was very obvious as affected all users.

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