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post Jun 22 2010, 06:55 PM, updated 16y ago

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iPhone 4

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Apple has just announced the new iPhone on WWDC 2010 (around 1 AM June 8th Malaysian time). And boy does it look gorgeous!

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Available in 16GB or 32GB, black or white.

Download iPhone 4 User Guide Manual: http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/iPhone..._User_Guide.pdf

The new features:

FaceTime - basically videocall, but between iPhone 4 to iPhone 4 only for now. Also for now, only by using WiFi. The reason is because AT&T will struggle to support the bandwidth, but we'll see if Apple and Maxis can arrange it for us here smile.gif Also, this is an open standard, so we can expect phones from other manufacturer to support FaceTime as well. Both front and back cameras can be used.

5 MP camera, LED flash, Backside Illumination Sensor, Front Camera
- you should probably know more megapixels equals more noise, but the camera sensor in iPhone 4 has also been increased as well, and paired with backside illumination technology. BIS and LED flash should result in better low-light photos. Front camera can also be used for easier camwhoring!

HD Video & iMovie for iPhone - self-explanatory tongue.gif

Retina Display with IPS technology - our beloved 3.5" Multitouch display now has a resolution of 960x640 (4x iPhone 3GS), so that's a stunning 326 pixels per inch! 800:1 contrast ratio and oleophobic coating for both the aluminosilicate glass screen and back panel. Also, IPS technology gives better colours and viewing angles…should beat AMOLED anytime.

Gyroscope - iPhone reinvented mobile gaming with the accelerometer. This is the next invention.

Bigger battery - Hey, it's Apple.

And of course, iPhone 4 is powered by the Apple A4 processor.

Read more about the new features here and drool at the tech specs here. Engadget has a nice review on iPhone 4.

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Frequently Asked Questions

READ THIS BEFORE YOU POST A QUESTION! You can always visit the official iPhone 4 page on Apple.com, and here's a useful article from Engadget. Feel free to ask or comment anything in this thread, but please no bashing and one-liners. Keep this thread clean so anyone can find information they need as easy as possible.

All unconstructive post, oneliner post will be deleted by moderators


Thank you smile.gif

iPhone 4 FAQ

1. When will it be released in Malaysia?
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2. So long have to wait! Can I buy from other countries and bring it to Malaysia?
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3. So how much will it be priced in Malaysia?
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4. But wait, iPhone 4 uses microSIM?! How long do we have to wait to have this in Malaysia? Any news from Maxis, Digi or Celcom?
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5. Malaysia don't have 4G network laa!
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6. Adobe Flash support?
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7. How to play Farmville?!?!?!
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8. Will the price drop anytime soon?
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9. I saw someone in Garage Sales (or other places) selling the iPhone 4 for an absurdly high price! Why is that person ripping me off?!
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10. The iPhone 4 is a disappointment. When will a new iPhone be released?
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11. I heard there's a rumour about a new version of the iPod touch. Is this true?
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12. I just bought an iPhone 3GS. Is it worth it to upgrade? Can trade-in?
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13. Can I edit my own ringtones in iPhone? Even my old phone can do that!
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14. Why no AMOLED screen?
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15. What is Retina Display?
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Current Issues

Reception issues, yellow spots, broken screen from failing, sim problem, Swapped Volume Buttons: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1472330


M'sia iPhone 4 users:

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i have been using it without the bumper n i "do not" encounter the antenna issue.

i dun think any smart phone with 3.5" screen can survive falling.

i dun have the "yellow spot" problem. maybe it's a random.

i dun encounter sim problem. this problem exist maybe it's due to DIY sim.

Volume button is in correct place. (beavis68)


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I have no problem with signal lost as i have been using bumper from the 1st day i use the phone.

My colleague who has the iphone without bumper does not have signal lost problem.

I am not sure if this issue is widespread as most of my friends owning iphone 4 (not that many, just 3 of us including my colleague) does not experience the problem. (chizzu)


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None. I've been using it with the Bumper case since. Beavis has been using it naked with no consequences as well. (stringfellow)


QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 7 2010, 01:54 AM)
Look at where all these complaints are coming from. USA. Looks at the responses and the impressions from those who attended the Gathering HERE in KL. Are there any complaints on yellowing display? One complaint on the signal drops, and yet funnily, my iPhone 4, Beavis's iPhone 4, Harmeet's iPhone 4, ksc_3688's iPhone 4, Yuvanesh's iPhone 4 has yet to fail us or drop our calls. I myself have reported the opposite, I get freaking signals in places where calls were dropped before on the 3G[S].

What else do you want us to do to convince you that these complaints are sporadic at best? Out of the 1,700,000 units of iPhone 4, how many of those reported having yellowing display, dropped signals when squeezed? If all these issues are widespread, Apple would have already done a product recall on its iPhone 4, just like how Sony did on their exploding battery issue affecting more than the 500,000 units of their Vaio laptops.

For the love of God, is it so hard to trust you fellow Malaysians, your forum members here that this issue is overblown disporpotionately? Also, notice all these NONSENSE are reported in USA only? The yellowing display issue is the glue drying up, and once dried, it clears up the screen. Read the freaking whole story, and NOT just the juicy bits about the defect. Read why it is yellow in the first place. The dropping signal when held in hand issue, why arent the Germans, the French or the Brits are howling over the internet over this and only the American are b****ing about it? Once you read the big picture, and understand how spotty and problematic AT&T's coverage in the States, and how the American themselves hate AT&T for this, you'd understand why this issue is not the phone, it's the service provider. Why wouldn't I replicate the same results here with Celcom? Or Maxis? In fact, why the hell are you worried about the Americans complaining about their iPhones when you are not getting the American iPhone 4 in the first place, and none of the issues are appearing or being reported and complaint upon by the other users in other countries?

In short, trust your fellow users here. I'm not kissing Apple's butt or reporting misinformation. The reason why the Gathering was planned and held was for you yourself to discern, analyse and remove doubt, once and for all, that all these fluff of complaints are trivial, moot and nonsensical at best. My phone is fine, Beavis's phone is fine, Harmeet's, Yuvanesh and ksc_3688's units are fine. Is that so hard to believe, or are you accusing of covering up these flaws for Apple's sake?

The fact of the matter is, those who shouts and makes complaints the loudest are those who are facing all these problems, and their numbers are far outnumbered by the satisfied customers who had nothing to complain, thus keeping their mouth shut. Only those who had problematic (depending on how they expect their phone to behave) would make the loudest noise, those like us who have perfect phones have no reason to b**** and moan to the top our lungs about it.

I'm free until 11th, if you still dont believe me, come on over, meet me, testdrive the goddamned iPhone 4 and see for yourself that all these nonsense are what it is..."nonsense". Forget the internet reports, their problems their facing is unique to their network infrastructure, network performance on their telco and how it interacts with the iPhone 4 itself. BOTTOM LINE is, those majority of us using our iPhone 4s on Maxis and Celcom are facing none of these issues, and that is what it should matter to you, NOT what is happening to American users on AT&T. You are not going to buy the American iPhone 4s because it is locked anyway, isnt it?

I kept my quiet all this while, but this is the third time, the same question about these "issues" have cropped up, and frankly, it needed to be addressed. Sorry if it sounds a bit exasperated, but folks here asking these questions dont seem to be thinking the big picture, and see how all these howlings of complaints on the iPhone 4 only coming from select part of the launch country and not their own backyard.

Peace, freaking out!
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More infos on Reception-problems:
http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/06/25/iphone...yre-your-fault/
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?t...rt=720&tstart=0




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This post has been edited by davidgary73: Jul 7 2010, 02:10 AM
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post Jun 22 2010, 07:06 PM

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iOS 4 (previously known as iPhone OS 4)

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iPhone 4 Downloads *Only iTunes 9.2 or later supports iPhone 4
*do not unzip the firmware. Remove the .zip extension. Your firmware should ends with .ipsw extension

iOS 4 Download links

iPhone 3G IOS 4 Firmware - Download

iPhone 3GS IOS 4 Firmware - Download

iPhone 4 IOS 4 Firmware - Download


IOS 4.0.1 Download

iPhone 3G IOS 4.0.1 Firmware - Download

iPhone 3GS IOS 4.0.1 Firmware - Download

iPhone 4 IOS 4 Firmware - Download


IOS 4.0.2 Download

iPhone 3G IOS 4.0.2 Firmware - Download

iPhone 3GS IOS 4.0.2 Firmware - Download

iPhone 4 IOS 4.0.2 Firmware - Download


What to do after i have downloaded the firmware from apple server links?
1) Remove the .zip extension. Your firmware should ends with .ipsw extension (example: iPhone2,1_4.0_8A293_Restore.ipsw) not iPhone2,1_4.0_8A293_Restore.zip.
2) Hold shift and click restore for Windows users and select the firmware. Hold Alt/Option and click Restore for Mac users and select the firmware. (Do a full backup before you proceed).


New features:

Multitasking - It's finally here! Double-tapping the home button will show all the apps you are currently running. This multitasking system is designed for minimum impact on battery life.

Folders - Effortlessly organize your apps in folders.

iBooks - Just like from the iPad, you get to purchase eBooks from the iBookstore

Unified Mail Inbox - manage multiple email accounts, and you can also view messages in threads

More infos: http://www.apple.com/iphone/ios4/


iOS 4.0 FAQ

1. Which iPhones n iPod touches are eligible for this update?
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2. Is it free? How do I get it?
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3. What features are not present for iPhone 3G and 2nd gen iPod touch?
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4. I have a Jailbroken phone. What will happen if I upgrade to iOS 4.0?
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5. I got Error 9006 when upgrading. What is this?
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6. How do I multitask / create folders / use any other new feature on iOS 4?
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7. Multitasking doesn't work!
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8. How can I use the iBook feature?
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More FAQs coming soon. Any corrections please PM me, thank you smile.gif

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post Jun 22 2010, 10:52 PM

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hello iPhone 3G owners

can you guys help me out a bit? smile.gif can someone make a list of iOS 4 features that's not supported for iPhone 3G? i want to add it in the FAQ section. i only know multitasking and screen lock. if anyone can contribute more, i'd appreciate it.

and another thing, is it possible to change the multitask button to single click home button, and 'quit app' to double click?

thanks in advance!
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QUOTE(Shoki @ Jun 22 2010, 10:54 PM)
Maybe we can add this to the FAQ?
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the original poster said he/she already turned on Cellular data. so i guess it's not solved yet? is restarting the phone a sure fix?

as for jailbroken phones, they'll lose all apps when they upgrade to iOS 4 right?

sorry ya...quite hard being TS of an iphone thread but not actually owning an iphone hahahaha. one day one day smile.gif
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QUOTE(vuzu @ Jun 22 2010, 11:06 PM)
Wondering did anyone encounter the error 9006 while downloading the ios 4??
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I've upgraded my itune to ver9.2 before the downloading. And tried to restart my pc twice. The problem still appear after 15~20% of downloads, could someone please share some tips or ideas, thanks.
My iphone is an unJB and am using Windows 7.

Thanks.
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I just answered your question in the FAQ page smile.gif btw i hope u dun mind i use your screenshot hehehe
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post Jun 23 2010, 02:17 AM

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so those experiencing network issues are all JBed phones is it?
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post Jun 23 2010, 05:32 AM

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to those who claimed that internet, mms, 3g or whatever isn't working... can you please state whether your iphone is jailbroken or not?
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QUOTE(vuzu @ Jun 23 2010, 01:04 PM)
Sure, no proble,pal. You're doing a great work, keep it up.
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thx!

how's tethering working for you guys? do we already have a sure-fire way to settle the no-3g problem?

seems like battery life improved for some and gotten worse for some. any idea why?
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QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Jun 23 2010, 11:02 PM)
seriously the multitask implementation is lousy for me I'm on iOS4 iphone 3g i still dont like the fact we can't customize what apps want to be multitasked who the hell want the camera apps running in background apple should put some sort of method to close program without going to background instead of forcing all apps to run in background when the home key is pressed)
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what do you mean by lousy? it's not even there! tongue.gif but i like the idea of a toggle to let which app can run in the background

we can hold off comments regarding multitask for now until there are more softwares taking advantage of it. then someone can compare iOS 4 multitask with android and see which is more effective.

again, no jailbreak apps discussion please. previously this was allowed, but any jailbreak discussion almost always lead to piracy discussion and we dont want that.
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QUOTE(Kyno @ Jun 24 2010, 11:09 AM)
i got 3g and 3gs . i duuno how to use the  the screen orentation lock+ipod contro
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please search before you ask. there's a lot of guides teaching how to do this all over the internet. the 1st post have some links too if u lazy to google
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QUOTE(kyoriam @ Jun 24 2010, 10:42 AM)
i dunno but sum1 said to me if Maxis 5.0 i cant send MMS ever!  cry.gif
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sorry but what is maxis 5.0 and 7.0?
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QUOTE(HW-Racer @ Jun 24 2010, 11:05 PM)
which one u choose ? iPhone 4 or android phones 2.1 eg. HTC Desire ? wait & c tommorow, samsung galaxy S launching...
http://www.redmondpie.com/android-2.2-vs-i...indows-phone-7/

looks like android 2.2 edges OS4...
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different ppl got different preference. but y are u comparing with 2.1 rather than 2.2? tongue.gif btw since u ask here of course most ppl will say they prefer iphone 4 hehehehe.

here are my reasons. honestly i was impressed with froyo 2.2 but the 1st thing about android is i dun like the inconsistent interface. one app looks so different from another app. 2nd is how android is growing so fast that the phones got outdated quickly..look at the xperia X10, damn expensive but got outdated within juz a few months. 3rd, manufacturers always want to add their own UI like HTC's sense and this creates a delay when their phones can get the latest android version (that's why the desire is still on 2.1 not 2.2). only the nexus one is free from this.

that being said, i really wish iOS will get something like android's notification system and widget support
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QUOTE(aztechx @ Jun 30 2010, 05:31 AM)
im abit confused by multitasking for the iOS4..when u double tap the home button,are those the recently opened apps or apps running in the background?will leaving all of those things on affect the speed and performance of my phone?since i think only 3-4  of my apps supports iOS4 or multitasking atm..
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your recently opened apps are running in the background until you quit it.
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phew... done catching up +_+

about those iphone antenna problems circling the net, those actually having iphone 4 doesnt experience it in malaysia. is there anyone who has an iphone 4 here and DID experience the antenna problem?

btw before i was considering the HTC desire too. i just played with one a few days ago, uhh the touchscreen responsiveness n smoothness is much below that of my 1st gen ipod touch. if the antenna issue is really bogus (im a lefty, but then i'll use a case anyway), iphone 4 it is then hehe!

thx for the pics of the bumper. i nvr realized it has buttons too. cant find a pic of the white iphone 4 with white bumper
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jkleejk thx. wow it looks amazing indeed biggrin.gif

can u compare the camera performance btwn the 4 n 3gs under dim lighting?
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thx for the pic comparison. not bad smile.gif
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QUOTE(insane.gamer @ Jul 4 2010, 09:28 PM)
i just updated my phone to ios4 but no background sucks la


Added on July 4, 2010, 9:28 pmowh and what else can i do with ios4 now?
sorry i havent been raeding
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tell me why anyone would bother answer ur question since u never bothered reading?

QUOTE(ronramka @ Jul 4 2010, 11:59 PM)
yep..thats the price a seller at lowyat quoted me, n the set is locked sleep.gif

n i asked him, why dun u bring in the UK set, n he said where got UK set, only available in US  doh.gif i smiled n went off.. waste of time speaking to seller like that laugh.gif
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lol, dunno anything abt iphone4 but still wanna sell at that price +_+
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^ no. try UK instead
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other manufacturers need the PC fair audience to launch new stuff so they get a lot of exposure. Apple? just look at the latest MBP refresh, no announcement, no events no nothing, and still lots of people bought them tongue.gif

that's just an MBP. iPhone apa lagi tongue.gif
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QUOTE(aleluya @ Jul 15 2010, 03:34 PM)
Hmmm

saw a video today.. About 1 iPhone 4 get burnt due to charging.

The USB cable and charging area of the bottom part get burnt down.

Seems like the quality control is really loosen a lot from Apple
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not only iphone got this problem... any product can have it, no matter how expensive it is or what brand. it's just that iphone get more exposure tongue.gif

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