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PC Audio Edifier Speaker/Headphone Fan Club V5, The Passion of Sound

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power911
post Nov 8 2010, 02:34 PM

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but still... cheap ic chips needs to warm up to sound good XD

did an experiment on it by cooling the ic with dry ice... sounded like crap tongue.gif
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post Nov 8 2010, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(beggarmaster2000 @ Nov 8 2010, 10:14 AM)
its the cheap power filter caps....it cannot charge and discharge properly. people who don't know electronics will tell you need to warm up, blast first etc. if you crack up the volume louder and teh sound will break
modern day ic amp doesn't need warm ups unlike tube amps. its start and go.

the higher the value, the longer it needs to charge up. but its not the value need upgrade its the speed. you change it to a more reputable brand with low esr.
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if i want to replace my power filter caps with better brand, should i use bigger capacity (uF) with same V or same uF same V?
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post Nov 8 2010, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(power911 @ Nov 8 2010, 02:34 PM)
but still... cheap ic chips needs to warm up to sound good XD

did an experiment on it by cooling the ic with dry ice... sounded like crap tongue.gif
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doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

gila punya orang

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post Nov 8 2010, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(andrew9292 @ Nov 8 2010, 02:54 PM)
doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif

gila punya orang

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well... u got some advise from me smile.gif

never waste you time trying to cool down your ic chips to get better speeds when it comes to audio cuz it's just a waste of time

it only works on computer ic and not amplifier ic XD whistling.gif
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post Nov 8 2010, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(power911 @ Nov 8 2010, 02:34 PM)
but still... cheap ic chips needs to warm up to sound good XD

did an experiment on it by cooling the ic with dry ice... sounded like crap tongue.gif
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I had my home running Azur 840A needs warm up to get good sound...so that amp used cheap cap and cheap ic?
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post Nov 8 2010, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(nismo91 @ Nov 8 2010, 02:50 PM)
if i want to replace my power filter caps with better brand, should i use bigger capacity (uF) with same V or same uF same V?
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pana FC is one of the best cheapest low esr caps easily available in msia, you can choose to upgrade the value (uF) if you know what you are doing. otherwise stick to the stock values. higher voltage is okay (but cost more $). but lower voltage will kill your stuff.

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then again, you guys are all insane here and want an overkill for even your cheap sets.
=) glhf
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post Nov 8 2010, 05:08 PM

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power911 is the insane guy..
luckily he didn't try it using with liquid nitrogen..
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post Nov 8 2010, 06:17 PM

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But he clear our doubts...
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post Nov 8 2010, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(rxy @ Nov 8 2010, 05:08 PM)
power911 is the insane guy..
luckily he didn't try it using with liquid nitrogen..
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wished to get them but no way lol
it's very expensive and you can only get them in gallons
one big bottle costs around RM800++ and it lasts only a day or two unless you use them all biggrin.gif

dry ice is easily available in baskin robbins XD
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post Nov 8 2010, 07:26 PM

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What i thought is that the electron moves faster on higher temperature, that causes the solid state amp needs some warm up to get good sound....has the similarity to CRT that has heating filaments.

I need to do some sourcing again....
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post Nov 8 2010, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(beggarmaster2000 @ Nov 8 2010, 04:24 PM)
pana FC is one of the best cheapest low esr caps easily available in msia, you can choose to upgrade the value (uF) if you know what you are doing. otherwise stick to the stock values. higher voltage is okay (but cost more $). but lower voltage will kill your stuff.

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then again, you guys are all insane here and want an overkill for even your cheap sets.
=) glhf
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I see. i go to his webpage (jimmy) and read the comments section, jimmy himself mentioned basically just replace with the same values of F and V. i will look into this later, probably next mth. i'll keep in mind for panasonic for the brand to look for. thanks.
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post Nov 8 2010, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(Cosef @ Nov 8 2010, 07:26 PM)
What i thought is that the electron moves faster on higher temperature, that causes the solid state amp needs some warm up to get good sound....has the similarity to CRT that has heating filaments.

I need to do some sourcing again....
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not electrons, it's particles smile.gif
particles move fast when heated
that's why solid,liquid,gas is formed tongue.gif
tbc

on the electronic side,chilling things down reduces resistance and conductivity increases

woots woots,off topic XD
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post Nov 8 2010, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(power911 @ Nov 8 2010, 08:59 PM)
not electrons, it's particles smile.gif
particles move fast when heated
that's why solid,liquid,gas is formed tongue.gif
tbc

on the electronic side,chilling things down reduces resistance and conductivity increases

woots woots,off topic XD
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Electrons....it is like moving much freely in higher temperature. Like the vacuum tube, it is vacuum inside and once the tube is hot, thermionic emission happens, the electrons fly in vacuum to other polarity plate.

Isn't that chilling things down reduces resistance and conductivity is applied to conductor only? it is like the particle bonding is closely packed resulting better electrical conductivity....

Out topic a while nevermind one hehehe tongue.gif

I'll test out some caps and other mod on my m3300 amplifier part....someone will said i'm too overkill laugh.gif
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post Nov 8 2010, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(Cosef @ Nov 8 2010, 10:20 PM)
Electrons....it is like moving much freely in higher temperature. Like the vacuum tube, it is vacuum inside and once the tube is hot, thermionic emission happens, the electrons fly in vacuum to other polarity plate.

Isn't that chilling things down reduces resistance and conductivity is applied to conductor only? it is like the particle bonding is closely packed resulting better electrical conductivity....

Out topic a while nevermind one hehehe tongue.gif

I'll test out some caps and other mod on my m3300 amplifier part....someone will said i'm too overkill  laugh.gif
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hmm... gotta revise it smile.gif

meh,modding a speaker isn't really overkill
unless you mod the speaker into a computer... now that's overkill
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post Nov 8 2010, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(power911 @ Nov 8 2010, 10:34 PM)
hmm... gotta revise it smile.gif

meh,modding a speaker isn't really overkill
unless you mod the speaker into a computer... now that's overkill
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i have to revise it again too....

gonna order some components from element14 and hope it reach around next week....coz holiday rclxms.gif
Getting busier and busier on my studies this year sad.gif

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post Nov 9 2010, 06:06 AM

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erm planning to buy another speaker for my destop..should go for e3100 or m3400?? as i know m3400 hv the convenient of volume control so is it the sound quality of m3400 better than e3100?
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QUOTE(pang0119 @ Nov 9 2010, 06:06 AM)
erm planning to buy another speaker for my destop..should go for e3100 or m3400?? as i know m3400 hv the convenient of volume control so is it the sound quality of m3400 better than e3100?
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in terms of SQ e3100 wins
with full booming tight bass m3400 wins
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post Nov 9 2010, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(power911 @ Nov 9 2010, 02:12 PM)
in terms of SQ e3100 wins
with full booming tight bass m3400 wins
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that mean m3400 hv powerful bass but with least clarity? hmm..i think i should go audience it.. brows.gif
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post Nov 9 2010, 05:13 PM

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Best is to go audit the speakers set, we here can only recommend which range is the best.
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post Nov 9 2010, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(pang0119 @ Nov 9 2010, 03:49 PM)
that mean m3400 hv powerful bass but with least clarity? hmm..i think i should go audience it.. brows.gif
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Might as well top up and get yourself a Edifier M3300. Though it may be weak in bass, but you can tweak the bass to make it better by using software. Using Foobar2000 and loving it ever since.

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