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whatever its is, nokia still abandon the phone n only supported by the ppl in the forum. we only can predict wat next app will be provided to the phone but in the end final direction come from thre company it self like u said wcshin

fennec is definitely laggy and slow. microb is the most frequented browser on my n900.. though not perfect but is still the best. (screen tearing is worst scrolling down and up in portrait mode ) opera comes second then fennec and lastly chromium albeit it is a lil bit biased cos i only used it once in my entire n900 journey.

guys, dont get too defensive on iphone4's debut yah. n900 is targeted to niche market therefore it will not die that easily; at least the geeks over maemo.org will not allow it to happen anytime soon. so yah, community based support is definitely there and nokia has not entirely pulled out from maemo scene yet. so keep your fingers crossed for a surprised firmware.

thats your assumption from what you think is true. Nobody is right or wrong only have different prespective most important what you think. For me i love the phone

This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Jun 8 2010, 10:49 PM

Apple strongest point is their superb graphics and sleek animation/transitions, etc.
The iPhone up to 3GS spec is a joke, especially the single speaker producing MONO quality. It's a joke to watch videos, listen to music on the default speaker, and worst of all, using GPS software. You can hardly hear the instructions clearly, and the screen is pretty dim in bright daylight on auto brightness mode. Not using the iPhone but the iPod Touch 3G.
Though, hope the iPhone 4G will change all that.

When talk about OS, it's really a simple and straightforward OS, targeted for even the most novice users who have no experience with smartphone. It stops right THERE. Everything is controlled, restricted, even the darn bluetooth also they want to restrict, and the best of all, everything involves $$$. Thus, the great apps and games available, especially the games, there're just so many great ones nowadays.
Entertainment wise, it's superb! No doubt.
Technical wise, it's no where close to any "true" smartphones. As said, the iPhone OS is very simple, basic and straightforward. Even after you jb, thing are not really so flexible and simple, but it allows much more possibilities.
I doubt the iPhone OS4 or iOS4 will change much of it, the interesting part is the hardware/specs, which is a dramatic change (but seems they purposely omit something, Mmmm.... maybe to upgrade for iPhone 4GS next year?)

Anyway, the thing is, recently I've been busy attending prayers and there I saw many uncles, construction workers, etc... Most of them are using iPhone. What's so great is... you don't need to be a smart user to use the iPhone. It caters and targets "simple" users, who have no computer experience, who don't know anything about technology, etc. they are able to adapt and use the iPhone easily.
Imagine ask them to use a "true" smartphone like Symbian or Windows Mobile or Android, lol, I bet they can't even know where to start or maybe even access the SMS, or any other simple task.
Then there is my cousin, who knew I got the N900 and we talk about phones. He's also interested in smartphones, and asked me how's the N900; I answered its great, then he replied "BUT you have to know how to use/utilize the phone".
TRUE enough, if someone who just wanted a simple phone, but wanting a powerful phone, shouldn't get this phone/device. iPhone is a powerful phone, but it's a SIMPLE phone. Other smartphones are also powerful phones, but they are NOT simple phone. As for N900, it's a sophisticated phone/device compared with others.

Here's another point to ponder, N900 may requires knowledge, skills, etc to utilize and use the device properly and appreciate it, it allows users to gain experience, explore, learn and become an advances smartphone user.
BUT, it's also not a complete and not a stable device at the moment, not sure when will it be stable or at least up to a certain acceptable state. So, it may not suit everyone, there're many more stable and complete smartphone.

Know what you want, what you need, and device carefully. For me, although there're many disappointments from Nokia in the support and updates of this device, but the device itself is still a great device. It's the only phone which I cannot stop using it and won't stop touching it, the Desktop is unique and outstanding, the web browsing is great, the Conversations is great with built-in IM into Contacts, simply superb. There're just so many things to do on the N900, it's really like having an advance mini Pocket Computer.
Although I have the iPod Touch 3G, I hardly touch it. When I touch it is only for Gaming which it has really many nice games (latest especially), and the PapaGo GPS, but only to be let down by the stupid MONO speakers and hard-to-see-in-bright-daylight screen (since the N900 doesn't have good GPS Map).
By the way, with the great functionality of the N900, recently I attended the Peugeot 3008 launching event, I was reporting/publishing news/feed/information, photos, and videos on the spot using 3G. I'm not even sure those media/journalist is posting up news as fast as I am. There're also friends who're using BB and iPhone, seems only the N900 is capable of doing these great things "properly".

Nice 1 made. Totally agree with your explaination

hahaha...so bias...
words fr the thread creator...

but frankly...apart fr all those open source, OC,UC, emulators stuff...
1 ting do stand out bout n900...so unique...
how often u c someone wit a n900?
compare 2 iphone...n97...
please not compare fone wic not available in m'sia...e.g nexus one...
but 1 fone i might interested in bringing in...if ever possible...evo4...
crazily huge screen...

there was tis instance when i was in a coffee shop...de old one lah...
i was using microB n circulating de screen (zoom in n out)...nex table couple couldnt stop scanning thru my fone...wanna check out wat fone can do tat...hahaha...
most is either double tab or pinch 2 zoom...probably they tot i was drawing...hahaha...
den i flip out my keyboard...manyak gaya...hahaha...heard them asking each other wat fone is tat...

i hv been a true nokia/symbian user since 7650...
de platform....hah...a joke...
nv change/upgrade...
most firmware update on bugfix...
most fone so similar in functions...

all i can say is til now de most unique fone in nokia line is n900...(i only compare those fone already release in market...)
so far de most frequent app i use...media player...
wil play my music videos b4 i sleep...
make use of de 3.5" screen...
so smooth...n nonid convert...

juz brought the phone .. now finishing the battery that remaining inside..

please anyone let me know what should i do first to get this phone started.

i am not bias. I owned a iphone 3GS before, Ipod Nano and even ipod touch. For me when there are limitation it makes me feel hard to breath. I have to admit the graphics and applications/games available are alot.

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This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Jun 8 2010, 11:08 PM

so so true...
i tink kopitiam ahpek oso can use...
at least someone i know, aged about 60+ without computer knowledge can handle an iphone...show me 4d result fr de fone...hahaha...
tat time i use n82...wanna load page oso take time...uncle faster den me...
ask those guys...or mostly gals u find in a club who uses an iphone...
they order a beer n lepak der playing wit their fone...wat app? games loh...
if u show them u r doin sum installation or setting kernel using xterm...i tink they wil say u veli old skool...stil dos version guy...hahaha...
n no idea wat de hell r u doin...
or when u run doksnes games...they tink u r flinstone...
iphone users/lovers some even hv tis fone as a status or 2 show off...
under utilize...

talk bout de built-in IM...so convenient...
only trouble was 2 merge it...simple task but time consuming...
after i've done all...community came up wit a merger app... hahaha...

even iphone 4 stil got no video call fr carrier...only use wifi...no diff fr n900(skype) at least we can use 3g/3.5g
there wil not b an ultimate smartphone in the market...ever...
it's down 2 user priorities...

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Added on June 8, 2010, 11:17 pm[quote=aspire2oo6,Jun 8 2010, 11:05 PM]
i am not bias. I owned a iphone 3GS before, Ipod Nano and even ipod touch. For me when there are limitation it makes me feel hard to breath. I have to admit the graphics and applications/games available are alot.

ya...i can understand how u feel...
js like those high end ferrari car owner...
buy the car but kenot drive out...only can drive in ferrari own track...
paid millions 2 hv de car parked in ferrari garage...hahaha...
so restricted...

iphone wit it's itune n battery...tat sums up de limitation...
n8 nearly screw it up when they hv de batt inside the fone wit fix metal cover on the back...
luckily can unscrew...hahaha...

This post has been edited by wcshin: Jun 8 2010, 11:17 PM

While first time i get to know about n900, i'm telling myself this the phone i wanted to buy yet i'm know iphone 4 will be great device before it release. so i have 2 choice, n900 or iphone 4, end up i get n900.... i'm admit little upset inside my heart somehow maemo5 really great operating system and love linux.

I think enough of comparing already. Ill stick back to topic.

iPhone 4 certainly have great hardware.(I wish Nokia included iPhone 4 type of touch screen in N900 )
But like previous generation of iPhones,it come with software limitation.

Simply say it's like driving ferrari with limited speed.
If only I can install full fledge Maemo in iPhone 3GS/4G I'll buy it.

Apple can afford to include high end stuff like 720 camera,excellent display & so on cause of heavy price they are giving to iPhone 4.

For those who are saying N900 too buggy,DO NOT INSTALL APPLICATION FROM EXTRA TESTING.
Most of the bug problem in N900 are caused by application from extra testing.

well said mate. well i would like to share my fair views on iphone/apple. let's look at the newly announced iphone4g that rocked the internet, i think you missed one important point though.. which IS the main key selling point that drives the overwhelming sales all over the world for the past few years until now.

it's the ability to show off. iphone, or rather Apple, carries a premium price tag for their products, and it is common thinking for people to associate premium price = showing off. certainly not all, though. personally i think we can categorize them into several different categories of buyers; early tech enthusiast adopters, fanboys, or even rich people who just want to get everything latest; from their latest season LV belt, luxury sports car to iphone4g.

there are also people who don't care what it can do or what it can't do, plus the avant-garde designs of Apple products which mostly attract people especially from creative industry; where most beautiful women and men ranging from models, advertisement firms to fashion designers can be found in this industry; they need the iphone4g to compliment them; (cant deny the exterior design is really superb.. glass, aluminium, ips tft etc) they certainly do not want to be labeled as geeky carrying n900 and android around, do they? just like how people categorize blackberry users as boring businessmen.

and you can't just generalize all uncle and aunties as technology illiterate lah lol.

apple could get alot app because apple sdk very userfriendly and easy to apply compare to maemo5. my company do wrote for iphone, andriod will be second (for fun/marketing purpose).

last weekend i went 2 the gardens...
coach hving sales...hv 2 line up summore...
gf wanna go in hv a look, i snub it, told her at least 5 out of 10 ladies inside owns an iphone...
mostly show off kaki...all crazy bout fashion...
hah...immediately i c infront the Q got 2 gals using their iphone...i pull my gf n walk off straight...malas mau layan...
btw my gf using 5800...hahaha...

Android phone aren't really geeky.Take HTC Evo4 for example.It's as good as iPhone 4 but at lower price.

Too bad newer phones don't come with physical qwerty keyboard.Part of the reason I got N900 is because of the physical keyboard.From what I heard the next MeeGo phone won't have physical keyboard also (some guy working for Nokia said this)

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Added on June 8, 2010, 11:34 pmFuture apps for Maemo5/MeeGo/Symbian will be written with QT.
It allows cross platform use.I heard it's very easy to apply/write apps with QT.

This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Jun 8 2010, 11:34 PM

Andriod is good os, before they sold to google my company do bought andriod development kit because my boss want to build phone using andriod os, so we having alot of r&d...we have factory at china. it the end we get screw up after they told 'some big company already bought the copyright'

totally agreed.. just came back yum cha with a fren who owns a blackberry, he is showing me all the business related apps like live stock market, currency exchange.. etc etc.. bcos he work in a bank and he feels tat those apps are useful to him..

but when i showed him n900, he also quite impressed but he doesnt need all those fancy or geeky apps..

so its up to individual on how he prefer to use his phone..

Does anyone how much does n900 cost original sets?

rm 2000 at all nokia center..