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post Jun 6 2010, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(hahn87 @ Jun 6 2010, 04:41 AM)
already plan to get mine on the beginning of july.

guys. just wanna ask some question about the music player.

what do you guys think about the default music player?
do you guys install other music player to play your tunes?
one crucial thing for me is the equalizer. i understand that it doesn't have and equalizer in the music player. or is it already there after several firmware update?
my phone is my portable jukebox.... need to know this
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The music player is simple. Personally, I really love the UI of the media home screen with the icons having a glowing background. It's plain and simple yet futuristic and nice.

As for EQ, currently there is no default EQ built in, and the other problem is, need to know how to create and save playlist as some people actually didn't know how to do it and thought it can't be done.
Anyway, the good news is the SQ (Sound Quality) is superb on this device, if you plugged it into a good set of headphones/monitors, you'll enjoy the SQ. Nonetheless, the default speakers produced good SQ already, except that it's not loud.

AFAIK, there're 3rd party EQ, BUT, previously I read that it consumes high battery/resource, not sure if it's fixed.
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QUOTE(razorboy @ Jun 7 2010, 12:43 PM)
guys im so screwed, remember all the probs i posted
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now another one came along, internal error.

initially it's just the media player, but its once in awhile,
now i cant open my conversation AT ALL!!!

help T.T!!
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When all else fail, do a CLEAN install.

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QUOTE(ahtiven @ Jun 8 2010, 10:12 PM)
fennec is definitely laggy and slow. microb is the most frequented browser on my n900.. though not perfect but is still the best. (screen tearing is worst scrolling down and up in portrait mode  shocking.gif) opera comes second wink.gif then fennec and lastly chromium albeit it is a lil bit biased cos i only used it once in my entire n900 journey.

guys, dont get too defensive on iphone4's debut yah. n900 is targeted to niche market therefore it will not die that easily; at least the geeks over maemo.org will not allow it to happen anytime soon. so yah, community based support is definitely there and nokia has not entirely pulled out from maemo scene yet. so keep your fingers crossed for a surprised firmware.
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Apple strongest point is their superb graphics and sleek animation/transitions, etc.
The iPhone up to 3GS spec is a joke, especially the single speaker producing MONO quality. It's a joke to watch videos, listen to music on the default speaker, and worst of all, using GPS software. You can hardly hear the instructions clearly, and the screen is pretty dim in bright daylight on auto brightness mode. Not using the iPhone but the iPod Touch 3G.
Though, hope the iPhone 4G will change all that.

When talk about OS, it's really a simple and straightforward OS, targeted for even the most novice users who have no experience with smartphone. It stops right THERE. Everything is controlled, restricted, even the darn bluetooth also they want to restrict, and the best of all, everything involves $$$. Thus, the great apps and games available, especially the games, there're just so many great ones nowadays.
Entertainment wise, it's superb! No doubt.
Technical wise, it's no where close to any "true" smartphones. As said, the iPhone OS is very simple, basic and straightforward. Even after you jb, thing are not really so flexible and simple, but it allows much more possibilities.
I doubt the iPhone OS4 or iOS4 will change much of it, the interesting part is the hardware/specs, which is a dramatic change (but seems they purposely omit something, Mmmm.... maybe to upgrade for iPhone 4GS next year?)

Anyway, the thing is, recently I've been busy attending prayers and there I saw many uncles, construction workers, etc... Most of them are using iPhone. What's so great is... you don't need to be a smart user to use the iPhone. It caters and targets "simple" users, who have no computer experience, who don't know anything about technology, etc. they are able to adapt and use the iPhone easily.
Imagine ask them to use a "true" smartphone like Symbian or Windows Mobile or Android, lol, I bet they can't even know where to start or maybe even access the SMS, or any other simple task.
Then there is my cousin, who knew I got the N900 and we talk about phones. He's also interested in smartphones, and asked me how's the N900; I answered its great, then he replied "BUT you have to know how to use/utilize the phone".
TRUE enough, if someone who just wanted a simple phone, but wanting a powerful phone, shouldn't get this phone/device. iPhone is a powerful phone, but it's a SIMPLE phone. Other smartphones are also powerful phones, but they are NOT simple phone. As for N900, it's a sophisticated phone/device compared with others.

Here's another point to ponder, N900 may requires knowledge, skills, etc to utilize and use the device properly and appreciate it, it allows users to gain experience, explore, learn and become an advances smartphone user.
BUT, it's also not a complete and not a stable device at the moment, not sure when will it be stable or at least up to a certain acceptable state. So, it may not suit everyone, there're many more stable and complete smartphone.

Know what you want, what you need, and device carefully. For me, although there're many disappointments from Nokia in the support and updates of this device, but the device itself is still a great device. It's the only phone which I cannot stop using it and won't stop touching it, the Desktop is unique and outstanding, the web browsing is great, the Conversations is great with built-in IM into Contacts, simply superb. There're just so many things to do on the N900, it's really like having an advance mini Pocket Computer.
Although I have the iPod Touch 3G, I hardly touch it. When I touch it is only for Gaming which it has really many nice games (latest especially), and the PapaGo GPS, but only to be let down by the stupid MONO speakers and hard-to-see-in-bright-daylight screen (since the N900 doesn't have good GPS Map).
By the way, with the great functionality of the N900, recently I attended the Peugeot 3008 launching event, I was reporting/publishing news/feed/information, photos, and videos on the spot using 3G. I'm not even sure those media/journalist is posting up news as fast as I am. There're also friends who're using BB and iPhone, seems only the N900 is capable of doing these great things "properly".



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QUOTE(ahtiven @ Jun 8 2010, 11:24 PM)
well said mate. well i would like to share my fair views on iphone/apple. let's look at the newly announced iphone4g that rocked the internet, i think you missed one important point though.. which IS the main key selling point that drives the overwhelming sales all over the world for the past few years until now.

it's the ability to show off. iphone, or rather Apple, carries a premium price tag for their products, and it is common thinking for people to associate premium price = showing off. certainly not all, though. personally i think we can categorize them into several different categories of buyers; early tech enthusiast adopters, fanboys, or even rich people who just want to get everything latest; from their latest season LV belt, luxury sports car to iphone4g.

there are also people who don't care what it can do or what it can't do, plus the avant-garde designs of Apple products which mostly attract people especially from creative industry; where most beautiful women and men ranging from models, advertisement firms to fashion designers can be found in this industry; they need the iphone4g to compliment them; (cant deny the exterior design is really superb.. glass, aluminium, ips tft etc) they certainly do not want to be labeled as geeky carrying n900 and android around, do they? just like how people categorize blackberry users as boring businessmen.

and you can't just generalize all uncle and aunties as technology illiterate lah lol.
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Agreed! The branding and ability to show off is another Major key point. Its like the IN thing or must have famous device.

Anyway, I didn't generalize la, where can generalize, what I mean is those uncles, construction workers I know and met during the prayers are not technology literate.

QUOTE(eluna @ Jun 8 2010, 11:28 PM)
apple could get alot app because apple sdk very userfriendly and easy to apply compare to maemo5. my company do wrote for iphone, andriod will be second (for fun/marketing purpose).
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Not entirely true. Its probably your company acquire the right resources, libraries and stuffs. iPhone has strict control and checking compared with others and the good thing is they ensure that the apps is built properly according to their specifications, there's no extras devel or testing app for end users, the app mus be stable and properly built. The reason Apple got lotsa app is because there're man users, and when you own an Apple, and when you register iTunes, everything involes $$$. Purchasig app is so very the easy, just a touch of a button it can charge directly to your credit card with no delays as they acquired your security code as well. Now tell me, who doesn't want to develop app for iPhone? I would love to develop for iPhone if you ask me to choose which platform I would choose to develop.

For symbian, windows mobile, its also very easy, for Symbian Nokia provided SDK for it since long ago. Plus Symbian OS is not strict as iPhone OS.
As for Maemo, its even better, there're so many language to choose from, and Qt is supported from the very start. Better yet, many Linux app can be ported, as example aMSN, Chromium, OpenDune, Stratagus, Theme Hospital, etc.

Anyway, the app/fame market is leaning more towards iPhone due to there is more market, users which pays for it, etc. Many games developed can actually be ported/rebuilt/etc for another platform if they want to.

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QUOTE(eluna @ Jun 9 2010, 10:54 AM)
Yes, you got part of the point... but symbian and meamo not easy as iphone, can see most of developer from maemo start complaining, some of the graphic suffer tearing screen, some of it hard to implement. even current Qt having problem, Qt still not perfect as nokia said.

Like you said, symbian and maemo has no restriction but end of result both having large problem, bugs/unstable so on (maemo ofcause very stable then symbian). as for now, maemo is good~ that why i purchased n900, major purpose i like about maemo only internet and pdf reader (most of language microB support well including ajax)

I like pdf reader so much, meamo able open complete pdf including graphic... nowadays most of the phone can't deliver best pdf reader compare to maemo5. i'm programmer, pdf ebook reader is very important to me which allow me carry daily use pdf inside my phone. is impossible for me remember all the syntax/command, example ~ linux server command in pdf already consist 1500pages, yet i'm able view in meamo5 when need.
Every phone got good or bad... as for gaming i still hope 3ds can beat iphone game.... lolx
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Actually it depends on the developer, for Maemo, there're various language to choose from and when developing for platforms, the more flexibility the more we can do, the easier, the more possibility.
The more restriction, means more simple and in a way it is also easy to do because there's only so much is allowed.
Hard to implement or not really depends if you understand the platform and so on. For example, if you're very experience in C Programming and it's developments tools, suddenly switching to another language and new developments tools, due to unfamiliar, it becomes hard; but for experience people for that tools, it's easy as cake.
Then again, it also depends on the SDK or libraries, since iPhone has been around for some time, their SDK or libraries would've improve a lot.

When there's no or little restriction, there opens much more possibilities and more things you can do, thus there is drawback. It's very simple, the more you control and restrict, the more safe and control you have. Similarly, if Windows have many restrictions, limitations, control, etc. there will be less attack, less virus, less hacking. Many hacking actually take advantage of what is GOOD for people. Simply put, the more doors you open to make it more user friendly, more flexibility, you will sacrifice some security. A simple example is internet banking, because security is top priority, there are many limitations, controls, restrictions, etc. which cause the internet banking not as nice to use as normal websites.

In terms of 3D, the specs of N900, Milestone, iPhone 3GS more or less the same, but the iPhone 4G will be a total different story. iPad games are in HD version as seen from iTunes, and iPhone 4G have similar processor as the iPad?
Plus, with no multi-tasking in iPhone OS3, and no homescreen processes running, no widgets running, etc. the iPhone 3GS will have more resource to run games more smoothly than other smartphones. Thus, it's really a good entertainment/gaming device. A good example would be iPod Touch 3G VS iPhone 3GS, with iPod Touch 3G using less processing power/resources (e.g. no phone calls, etc), it load games faster, smoother too.
Though, having lack of physical control pad, not all games are nice to play; Many games, I find I really want to use a physical control pad or the R1 or L1 button. Too bad some games were not available for PSP, there special games made specific for iPhone, that's how popular it is.



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QUOTE(eluna @ Jun 9 2010, 12:15 PM)
iPhone 4G have A4 processor 1Gb which similar to iPad, codenamed "hummingbird" with L2 cache
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It'll require next generation device to compete with this mean beast The Samsung Galaxy I9000 will be a strong competitor in terms of specs, especially coupled with its Super AMOLED display, but it stills lacks Android 2.2.

This iPhone 4G will be able to enjoy HD version of the games like the iPad.

QUOTE(meLi @ Jun 9 2010, 12:21 PM)
BlseeN900

BlessN900 gives you all you've been missing with standard N900 camera: non-blurry low-noise pics in low light, high quality zoom not available on any mobile device before, rich detail in highlihts and shadows!
Check it here http://blessn900.com/

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Seems this will replace your original video camera settings. Hm.... I kind prefer a separate application that don't touch the original camera. From the samples, some shots are actually better in its original form, the altered version seems produced lower quality or due to the adjustment of some settings like contrast, color correction, etc.

MMMmm... because it replaces the original camera settings, kinda reluctant to do it.
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QUOTE(angelbratz @ Jun 10 2010, 01:33 AM)
Looking for the same answers too~~

Pro
Cheaper
Full Warranty

Cons
Value Drop
Warranty is limited

How bout Ovi Store??? Can the AP utilize them? Firmware Updates? Online Support?

Appreciate if the Veteran users can give more input...

Thanks...
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AP is ORI

The one you buy from Nokia Shop is "Authorised" or "Official" set for sale IN Malaysia.
Just like when you buy your PS3, Wii, PSP, etc. You buy your PS from SONY is "Authorised" or "Official" set for sale IN Malaysia. You buy from other shop which maybe Japan set, UK Set, etc.

So, do you understand now? All is original, so no worries about Ovi Store, Firmware Updates, etc.

The main difference is the LOCAL SUPPORT from the Company and Warranty.


QUOTE(Seaedge @ Jun 10 2010, 07:44 AM)
i got this RM58 500mb package and last month, i exceeded the usage by 62mb and guess how much i have to pay?
RM300.
and i called up the green and shoot the hell out of them.. coz they tell me that they cannot monitor how much we downloaded. and the best part is, they say only ivalue for iphone will get sms notification if they reach 80% or exceeded.. but not normal user.
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I exceed once too when on 500MB package, I upload many videos and watch many YouTube videos. Since I didn't reset my Data Plan widget, I kinda lost count on it and worst of all, I call up Maxis and they don't have the function to check my current data usage or whether I have exceeded the limit. Worrying my bill, I "finally" read up the Terms and Conditions or information about their data plan, and I saw that:
1. for Prepaid, it will "cut off" the usage when exceed the limit, while for Postpaid it will continue to allow you to use and charge you.
2. Then I saw this, there is a MAXIMUM charge limit when you exceed the data plan subscribe. The maximum they will charge you is additional RM250 no matter how much you use after you have exceeded the plan. I call up Maxis to verify. Once verify, I use the data "kao kao" for that Month.

Now I have switch to 3GB data plan for RM88. No need to worry about uploading videos, watching videos in FB or YouTube, etc.

By the way, it's much much more worth it to subscribe to data plan.

Normal usage is 1cent per KB.
1MB = 1024KB = RM10.24?
5MB = 5120KB = RM51.20?
** There're however off peak rates

500MB data plan = RM58

So, calculate yourself whether subscribe to plan is worth it. My first time use this phone, I've accidentally used up 5MB. Then I quickly subscribe to 500MB data plan.



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QUOTE(aurion @ Jun 10 2010, 09:29 AM)
All Maxis knows is to con consumers.
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All is same, just a matter of which is worst.

Sorry but in my personal opinion, DiGi is actually worst as they have many "hidden" terms or unclear terms; If you found out late, it's your mistake not theirs as they have stated in their terms. So who is more cunning?

Remember previously there some an advertisement by DiGi on Radio, then at the last part you can hear "Terms & Conditions apply".
Later, there was an advertisement by Maxis, offering same or better (can't remember) deal and in the end it says something like "NO terms and conditions". LMAO, like totally directly obviously shooting DiGi's advertisement. And best part is, there was at least more than once, the advertisement it put one after another.

Recent DiGi's iPhone plan I was kind of impress with it's plan, just need to subscribe ALL-IN-ONE RM108 for 2 + 1 year (3 Year) you can get iPhone 3GS 16GB? But later, I was told by my friend it's not like this, he also thought so at first but after he went to inquire, the ugly details come out. Seems on the third year, you don't pay RM108 only, you have to pay for the phone installment as well??? Not really sure what he mean, but what he told me is that the third year, you will be paying more than RM108. It's kind pay later scheme, while Maxis is pay first scheme?
Correct me if I'm wrong on this.

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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 10 2010, 11:25 AM)
At least you guys are enjoying 3G.
I never had chance to try DiGi 3G with this phone cause of lack of coverage.
Only tried Celcom 3G.Quite fast for me.
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3.5G FTW!
But it'll drain your battery dry very fast
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QUOTE(narutokun83 @ Jun 10 2010, 05:08 PM)
Already updated to the latest, still the same result.
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Because "hor"... the latest firmware don't need to install the USSD widget "lor".


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QUOTE(angelbratz @ Jun 11 2010, 03:48 AM)
Just wondering...what u guys use to play RMVB format movies?
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Can try KM Player or sib. Sib is powerful as it uses mplayer but seems no touch support.

Playing RMVB will be laggy, and depending on the compression, it might be worst.

QUOTE(BRY7 @ Jun 11 2010, 10:15 AM)
my friend poison me to get this fone.
now i'm wondering if transferring files from n900 to macbook and vice versa is possible or not?
anyone out there using macbook and n900?
i need your feedback before deciding to buy of not..
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Why not?

Plus, if you install SSH, you can transfer file via WiFi....

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QUOTE(BRY7 @ Jun 11 2010, 11:22 AM)
what is SSH?
currently i got nokia multimedia transfer on my mac.
with drivers for E72.
i can only update maps and transfer the software in the fone using mass memory.
then install from file manager on fone.
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Basically, with SSH, it allows you to connect to your device via network/WiFi. Just install it on your phone, set the root password.

Then you can use WinSCP or any similar client for Mac to access your device for secure file transfer

From wiki:
Secure Shell or SSH is a network protocol that allows data to be exchanged using a secure channel between two networked devices.

What is WinSCP?
WinSCP is an open source SFTP client and FTP client for Windows. Its main function is the secure file transfer between a local and a remote computer. Beyond this, WinSCP offers basic file manager functionality. It uses Secure Shell (SSH) and supports, in addition to Secure FTP, also legacy SCP protocol.


QUOTE(RViN @ Jun 11 2010, 11:46 AM)
Actually using the "Extra Decoder Plugin" RMVB works flawlessly with the default Media Player.

As for Mac support, I think it shouldnt be a problem and might work better since MAC is based on UNIX
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Are you sure? By default default Media Player cannot detect RMVB and MKV files. As I know, you need to edit/register the files first so that it can read or see it in default Media Player.
I have RMVB files and I cannot see it in my default Media Player.

As for MKV, I read that it's supported, but most MKV are in HD format, which our phone doesn't support for too high resolution. Thus possibly why we can't play it. I haven't tried MKV files with lower resolution yet. So no sure, but I read that it's supported and how to register so that the default Media Player able to read it.


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QUOTE(meLi @ Jun 12 2010, 11:11 PM)
DBless900 vs Nokia Default Camera

Pic has been taken just now at Kuala Selangor Kelip-Kelip. 12 June 2010 at 7:10PM

Nokia Default Camera (auto setting)

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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DBless900 (Normal) causes the Sky details gone.

Anyway, after install DBless, we can still choose Default Camera?
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QUOTE(ahtiven @ Jun 12 2010, 11:52 PM)
yes, blessn900 is activated via icon like any other application.

it doesnt overwrite the stock camera. smile.gif
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QUOTE(angelbratz @ Jun 15 2010, 03:14 PM)
I thought SiB does not Comply with 1.2...

Its being warned already...
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I just use SiB the other day. What's the warning about? I'm not aware of it.

Anyway, today there's a new update on the SiB which will depend on PR1.2 Qt libs.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=715688

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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 15 2010, 04:22 PM)
Some user lost virtual keyboard after installing it.
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Thanks~ lucky mine's is ok so far...

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QUOTE(meLi @ Jun 16 2010, 08:52 AM)
The Sun Monday 14 June 2010

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This reviewer need to use the phone properly.

No Facebook and Twitter widget? Huh?
Maybe he/she meant widget which lets you do MORE stuffs.

And it mentioned about social networking app. Huh???
The beauty of N900 is these social networking is BUILT-IN to contacts. There're no need to install 3rd party IM, and there IS 3rd party IM apps, but not required.

While others have to open 3rd party app, login, etc. For N900, everything is built into the Contacts and Conversations.
This is the revolutionary and what others lack of.

Clearly, many reviewers are still very un-experienced and don't know much about smartphones. They should learn more about smartphones and what it can offer before doing the review. There're so many things that N900 have that others doesn't.
Just look at the previous pages talk about Desktop design, just Desktop design alone can be non-stop because of it's flexibility, we will see many different creativity and nice design Desktop.

As for apps, sorry but in extras, there're just sooo many useful and nice apps. I have the iPod Touch 3G, I don't find many useful or nice apps, but more on entertainment and gaming. But N900 have many interesting and nice apps, and together with the support for Widgets, it's even more useful.

Plus, I just tested, the N900 is capable of playing MKV files, in fact many more file format with the use of mplayer. BUT, playing 720p (HD) quality MKV on N900 seems take long time to buffer. I tested another lower quality MKV file, it plays but the video is slower than the sound, out of sync. But I know there're many configurations you can do to the mplayer, need to learn the configurations first (e.g. frameskip, etc).

Smartphones it's about bringing computer like experience or being as close to a computer as possible, the capabilities, power, etc. That's the reason why Smartphones were created.
For powerful smartphones like N900, one needs to put their time and effort to understand, explore, etc on the phone first before putting a poor review.
Previously in older N900 threads, I mentioned about a Linux Magazine from India, the reviewer wrotes more than 6 pages of review on the phone and in the end, he mentioned that he probably just covered 50% of it but due to page contraints, he have to stop. Compare to our Malaysian review? LoL, even the HK ones, their launching is so detailed and introduce so many things about the N900. Clearly, Nokia Malaysia needs to buckle up A LOT.
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 16 2010, 10:25 AM)
^The reviewer probably long time iPhone user.
For iPhone everything depends on separate apps.

What player did you used to play mkv files?I tried playing 720 video yesterday but sib refused to play it.
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T3 Malaysia reviewer also same...

I use KMPlayer, change the player to mplayer.
But the 720p video I tried, it was buffering for more than 1 minute, then I lazy to wait and close it. Tried another lower resolution one and it can play (after a short while of buffering). For 720p, not sure how long it will take to buffer or will it ever start, lol.

I'm now in the process of trying Knots2, streaming video from PC to N900. With this, you can even stream 1080p video. But I don't know how to configure the PC side yet, just installed the server on the PC yesterday. Anyone tried Knots2 and can share how to configure on PC side?

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QUOTE(ZackFong @ Jun 16 2010, 04:07 PM)
hi. i'm intending to purchase a n900.

1) anyone can tell me the latest price for zitron set?

2) i heard n900 is not compatible with MMS and chinese font. has it been fixed?

3) the zitron should have international coverage warranty right?
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1) RM2000
2) MMS depend on 3rd party app. Chinese font supported, but to type Chinese font you need to install 3rd party app.
3) INTERNATIONAL?
Zitron Set = Malaysian Set
AP Set = Oversea Set
Both also ORIGINAL. What do you mean by international coverage warranty?

For N900 AP Set, there is US and UK Set. Not sure if there's any HK Set.

For other Nokia AP Set, you might get from units from other countries.


Added on June 16, 2010, 4:41 pmBtw, I notice our Calendar, when you set "Repeat Every Year" for an event, it defaults Repeat Until Year 2014. Why?

And, the maximum year is 2037 ONLY? Why?

1. Why it doesn't default repeat forever or until the maximum year, but set to 2014??? Will something happen to N900 in 2014?
2. Why maximum of 2037? Does it mean N900 can only survive until 2037?


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QUOTE(ZackFong @ Jun 16 2010, 04:49 PM)
thanks a lot bro. i appreciate it!

i got a dealer say can offer me rm1800, but its very hard to contact him. issit possible to negotiate this price at lowyat plaza (or else where)?

if AP and Zitron both are ori.... why are the price such huge differ?

regrading international warranty... i am going to study at Taiwan. can zitron warranty reach there?
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AP is not authorised/officially for Malaysia. It's imported by other companies.
You can think like buying console/gaming device, e.g. PS3, you can buy from game shop which are like AP Set, the model you get can be from Japan, Korea, UK, etc. Or you can go back to Sony Malaysia and get Authorised/Official Malaysian set.
You can also think of buying cars, you can buy from Toyota or Honda, or you can buy from 3rd party importer like Naza, etc. You buy from 3rd party importer, you can get oversea spec and fully imported version, but if you buy from Toyota or Honda, you buy Malaysian spec, Malaysian version.
Of course, for handphone, the spec is "usually" the same, not so complicated like cars.

As for Taiwan, there is no Zitron there, so no, they can't cover you.
Logically speaking, if there is Nokia Company, they should cover you since you're buying Nokia Products, not the dealers. Zitron is just an authorised dealer/distributor for Nokia.





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