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post Mar 19 2019, 04:40 PM

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Age of the township is actually not a factor in determining the value of the neighborhood. Other factors such as township planning, resident composition, sustainability (including green index), facilities determine how liveable and desirable the township is.
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post Mar 19 2019, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Mar 19 2019, 10:04 AM)
alamak….more than 20 yrs ago.....

can afford to buy land, also need to consider and afford to build house on tilts.
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I remembered during that launch, to sell, they allowed you to build anytime within a 20 year period. So I think, it still a gain, as the land now is worth much more, the last time I checked
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post Mar 19 2019, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Mar 19 2019, 10:46 AM)
Did someone just start his longish post by the phrase "as a TRAINED SCIENTIST" blah blah?
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That means therr is a lot of study and big words but the conclusions is wrong.

Of cos DPC is better than BSD. This one is not scientist talking. Its old cheapskate unkerl talking. The kind who eat chicken rice everyday.

Buy the cheaper house in a best neighbourhood, not the most expensive house in a lousier location. This one the CEO of the largest property agency in Singapore say one. I think he's not a scientist either. He iirc is  school dropout.
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Bla bla bla. The scientist part only referred to the decision making process. I did not infer that I am a property guru. And my point still stands. I am buying for own stay, and not for flipping. There are countless factors for determining what's best for my own stay. And to me, a development that is not taking selling it's product seriously, with no show rooms, no service, and pasar malam selling, in all measures will only attract herd mentality purchasers and flipper driven neighbors. What good is a good neighbourhoods with lousy neighbours. I rather stick with a crowd that can afford to 1.5mil or hold it for more than 10 years because they can.

My two cents
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post Mar 19 2019, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(when2meets2boy @ Mar 19 2019, 08:22 PM)
I remembered during that launch, to sell, they allowed you to build anytime within a 20 year period. So I think, it still a gain, as the land now is worth much more, the last time I checked
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Buyimg and holding land you need super holding power...

Of course i didnt aay you cant afford it.
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post Mar 19 2019, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(when2meets2boy @ Mar 19 2019, 08:27 PM)
Bla bla bla. The scientist part only referred to the decision making process. I did not infer that I am a property guru. And my point still stands. I am buying for own stay, and not for flipping. There are countless factors for determining what's best for my own stay. And to me, a development that is not taking selling it's product seriously, with no show rooms, no service, and pasar malam selling, in all measures will only attract herd mentality purchasers and flipper driven neighbors. What good is a good neighbourhoods with lousy neighbours. I rather stick with a crowd that can afford to 1.5mil or hold it for more than 10 years because they can.

My two cents
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One thing i dun understand is if you bought for ownstay, why come to this forum and sing praise song for developer, the project and your foresight in buying this project/property?

You want to get voices for your correct decision, a pad at yr back or tease thosw who missed out?

If you were talking abt altivo, tis project was sold 7788 rather earlier. A clear indication of many investors at play here.
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Mar 19 2019, 03:51 PM)
my 1st choice was bukit tunku but I cant afford it.
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Sama sama. Have you heard of Kenny Heights? I will get that one day. Give me another 10 years of wealth growth
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post Mar 19 2019, 09:01 PM

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Errr I dun und the flip part. Let say half of 1st hand buyers for each project bot to flip. And successfully flipped. Chances r the next owners r for own stay or half of those subsales buyers again bot to flip. 3 rounds in 15yrs older phases ended with 90% own stayers. New projects stil repeating the cycle n 15yrs later all oso dated liao cos no more land to build.

Would suddenly all owners who oledi grown old wanna leave the town???

I see ttdi with many oldies n ttdi is self sustaining cos of high spending power. My guess. Not vely sure.

I hav seen too many ppl goin into condo in recent yrs mainly due to lower entry n mostly off the plan buy mainly due to freebies n rebates. Thou landed or condo oso hav their fair share of issue but i personally think condo in long run ll worn out faster than landed.

Recently I hav redo wiring n piping for 1 landed. After the unit is done up 1 question popped up in my mind. Can I redo wiring n piping in condo the same way I did for my landed if in the event I need to do so in future. Especially with the shear walls for most condo nowadays.

Just thinking. πŸ™πŸ™πŸ™

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Mar 19 2019, 04:20 PM)
Ppl buy ownstay home at certain location bcos its close to where they grew up usually.

Time will pass n place will grow old. You think kk as cited above wont get old? Kk already 25yo already. Thats why ppl buy canal city now.....

I have a 30yrs low mid cost landed in puchong. Am sure when i list it for subsale there will be buyer.

Only those eyes grow on forehead look down on older popety.

Old is gold. Good location you cant duplicate....

Newbies really need to learn
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Same here, that's why I like DA, I get the best of both worlds, surrounded by matured low density neighbourhoods where I can get everything I want but staying at a spanking new affluent condo decked with all the facilities and lifestyle niceties I need for a 30 year old. On odd days I can dress down and have my humble bowl of pork noodle, and even days I can host my guest in ATIVO hanging deck and restaurant. And any given day, I could visit DPC or the future DA when I feel like being with the crowd. And then when I feel like having alone time, I'll escape to the hills right in the Sri Damansara neighbourhood. That's the reasons I became fixated at Sri Damansara. Had it been the right timing, I would have gotten Airie. And had Damansara Seresta been less fraught with steep slope issues, I would have placed it higher than ATIVO too, because own stay should be far enough from the crowds to relax and close enough to civilisation when you want a piece of the action. ATIVO is a compromise.

I'll probably be staying at ATIVO until I retire, then I'll go for Bukit Tunku or Country Heights Damansara, when I get enough moolah. Which should be right on by the time I retire.
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QUOTE(when2meets2boy @ Mar 19 2019, 08:54 PM)
Sama sama. Have you heard of Kenny Heights? I will get that one day. Give me another 10 years of wealth growth
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Kenny heights dun play play...
Olympia group.....cannpt run biz one...

Remember duta hyatt kl? They also cancelled their condo project there.
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Mar 19 2019, 09:33 PM)
Kenny heights dun play play...
Olympia group.....cannpt run biz one...

Remember duta hyatt kl? They also cancelled their condo project there.
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Oooooo icic, the piece of land at the top of Bukit Tunku look so b sweet though. Good to Know
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QUOTE(when2meets2boy @ Mar 19 2019, 09:08 PM)
Same here, that's why I like DA, I get the best of both worlds, surrounded by matured low density neighbourhoods where I can get everything I want but staying at a spanking new affluent condo decked with all the facilities and lifestyle niceties I need for a 30 year old. On odd days I can dress down and have my humble bowl of pork noodle, and even days I can host my guest in ATIVO hanging deck and restaurant. And any given day, I could visit DPC or the future DA when I feel like being with the crowd. And then when I feel like having alone time, I'll escape to the hills right in the Sri Damansara neighbourhood. That's the reasons I became fixated at Sri Damansara. Had it been the right timing, I would have gotten Airie. And had Damansara Seresta been less fraught with steep slope issues, I would have placed it higher than ATIVO too, because own stay should be far enough from the crowds to relax and close enough to civilisation when you want a piece of the action. ATIVO is a compromise.

I'll probably be staying at ATIVO until I retire, then I'll go for Bukit Tunku or Country Heights Damansara, when I get enough moolah. Which should be right on by the time I retire.
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Why only retired baru moved to bungalow????

Older you have more energy?
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Mar 19 2019, 09:01 PM)
Errr I dun und the flip part. Let say half of 1st hand buyers for each project bot to flip. And successfully flipped. Chances r the next owners r for own stay or half of those subsales buyers again bot to flip. 3 rounds in 15yrs older phases ended with 90% own stayers. New projects stil repeating the cycle n 15yrs later all oso dated liao cos no more land to build.

Would suddenly all owners who oledi grown old wanna leave the town???

I see ttdi with many oldies n ttdi is self sustaining cos of high spending power. My guess. Not vely sure.

I hav seen too many ppl goin into condo in recent yrs mainly due to lower entry n mostly off the plan buy mainly due to freebies n rebates. Thou landed or condo oso hav their fair share of issue but i personally think condo in long run ll worn out faster than landed.

Recently I hav redo wiring n piping for 1 landed. After the unit is done up 1 question popped up in my mind. Can I redo wiring n piping the same way I did for my landed if in the event I need to do so in future. Especially with the shear walls for most condo nowadays.

Just thinking. πŸ™πŸ™πŸ™
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All good prints. Forces me to rethink my motivations and priorities..... Hmmmmmm

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post Mar 19 2019, 09:42 PM

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You may dream now...but as age goes by yr priority change, it may not end up like wat you planned.
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post Mar 19 2019, 10:04 PM

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... And all I want to do is to retire in Taiping! πŸ€”
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post Mar 19 2019, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Mar 19 2019, 10:04 PM)
... And all I want to do is to retire in Taiping! πŸ€”
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At one stage taiping has the highest crime rate in malaysia.
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post Mar 19 2019, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(BukitKing222 @ Mar 19 2019, 11:46 AM)
Funny, you might as well just say it's actually depending on your luck.

No matter how good is the neighborhood one day it might not the same case 20 years later. Just throw you some examples, Subang Jaya and USJ. How many people still want to live in those old houses but it's definitely one of the sought after area 30 ~ 40 years ago. There is something called "Fengshui cycle" in this world may be instead listening to this CEO you can pay and attend Joey Yap's talk on the best area for investment in the next 30 years. Singaporean might not know KL well as their country is just a small city state where lands are scarce.
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Doesn't matter Singapore , KL Penang Melbourne its the same everywhere. Location is everything. Btw subang jaya was never that good la. Don't listen joey yap pls. The reason why I brought up that CEO is that what he said is true for property always. Not becos he's a CEO of some property coy I couldn't give a damn as well.


Btw Singapore is small so what he says should NOT matter! But it does. Think about it .

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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Mar 19 2019, 02:23 PM)
I agree if you are buying to flip later. For own stay is slightly more complicated. As an example, I look at Rafflesia, Sunway Rymba, Effingham and Airie. BU and Damansara Perdana are slightly better location but Effingham is slightly too much for us plus it is a bit Chinaman πŸ˜‚. Rafflesia is individual titled and look at the early phases houses each is different from the other: some got gates, some don't; some orange in color, some white and some are so ugily done up that I feel nauseated looking at them.

For own stay the design of the house is also important. We were keen to stay in TTDI or Sri Hartamas but for the house we wanted I have to sell all my body organs to buy one at these places. So we compromised and get a decent house in decent neighborhood. Not the bestest house and not bestest township πŸ˜‚
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No, not flipping .. For own stay ! OK I'm not questioning your choices here... But certain things are characteristic of neighbours, cannot change . so like minded people might prefer staying in certain neighbourhoods. That's all I can say in this forum buddy.anyway no offense meant ya
But for me la I would have sacrificed sqfootage for hartamas or ttdi.

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post Mar 20 2019, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Mar 19 2019, 09:01 PM)
Errr I dun und the flip part. Let say half of 1st hand buyers for each project bot to flip. And successfully flipped. Chances r the next owners r for own stay or half of those subsales buyers again bot to flip. 3 rounds in 15yrs older phases ended with 90% own stayers. New projects stil repeating the cycle n 15yrs later all oso dated liao cos no more land to build.

Would suddenly all owners who oledi grown old wanna leave the town???

I see ttdi with many oldies n ttdi is self sustaining cos of high spending power. My guess. Not vely sure.

I hav seen too many ppl goin into condo in recent yrs mainly due to lower entry n mostly off the plan buy mainly due to freebies n rebates. Thou landed or condo oso hav their fair share of issue but i personally think condo in long run ll worn out faster than landed.

Recently I hav redo wiring n piping for 1 landed. After the unit is done up 1 question popped up in my mind. Can I redo wiring n piping in condo the same way I did for my landed if in the event I need to do so in future. Especially with the shear walls for most condo nowadays.

Just thinking. πŸ™πŸ™πŸ™
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Very experienced guy ah. Old condo problem is LIFT

Wiring , piping,,, issue also but not so headache. External common area mcst settle. Inside your house u settle.

But lift ... Cos replace may be v high

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And ATIVO is charging 0.43 psf of fees for maintenance
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Mar 19 2019, 10:43 PM)
At one stage taiping has the highest crime rate in malaysia.
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Must be the time when I was the student there! πŸ˜‚
I lived in Taiping many years the only crime committed on me was bitten by a mad dog!

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