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blancpain4470
post Mar 18 2019, 07:02 AM

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QUOTE(when2meets2boy @ Mar 18 2019, 12:24 AM)
Rehash of the current (circa 2017) Damansara Avenue master plan, with emphasis on proposed and existing access roads to LDP, DUKE2, MRR2, Sri Damansara ring road, exit to Desa Parkcity roundabout, Jalan Sungai Buloh, and MRT2 direct access point
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God knows when all these "proposed" highways will be done. I don't see any work started on these highways
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post Mar 18 2019, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Mar 18 2019, 11:05 AM)
ultimately you are potential buyer, and not developer.
cash rich doesnt mean they are really to burn the cash.

another shopping mall in this mall crowded LDP? Empire City said everything will be finished by end 2020 leh......

name me one place where MRT already bought up the place to boom.
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I hope they don't develop SriDamansara any further. I dreaded the day they build the mall and high rise condo. The charm of SD to me is a small township with significant green and reasonable traffic within township.

No doubt those proposed highways will alleviate some traffic issues but with more cars the net is still the same as current. I rather stay in current condition.


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post Mar 18 2019, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(when2meets2boy @ Mar 18 2019, 05:36 PM)
Overall, some have appointed out that it's the quiet and green nature of the Sri Damansara neighbourhood that attracts me. There is also the cheap wondrous food in Kepong and also the upscale wondrous food in DPC. So I get the best of everything it seems. Too early to tell. Still shopping.

Any more horror stories about TA or DA I should be worrying about? do tell.
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Cheap Kepong food? Personally I don't think Kepong food is that cheap. One thing though SD lacks good restaurants in the township itself. Many coffee shops but very few good restaurants.

We went to check out DA for a small unit (for our old age own stay in future) and found the asking price is high. We thought at that price might as well buy at DPC. Now months later we got Airie instead so look like I still can't escape SD! 😂
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post Mar 18 2019, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(when2meets2boy @ Mar 18 2019, 08:08 PM)
Whoa, Airie must be at least 2 mil, last I check. I wanted to get on Airie too, Went to have a look and then was turned off because of that huge sinkhole that appeared infront of the Airie. My wife was freaked out. Especially when the Damansara Seresta retaining wall steep slope has sent jitters to her spine. After seeing that sink hole, that whole stretch became "no-go" for us.

This is the one. Huge and menacing. yet unresolved in February. the sinkhole

Now the only landed option with something as good (environment) as Airie is Country Heights Damansara. Should have bought it when launched years ago when it was barely 1 million
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Lol. Sink hole makes the price of airie sinks further. I got good price for it. It doesn't bother me and they are repairing now as we speak. Airie is on the same hill as Rafflesia ... Just in opposite side. When your time comes God will take you even you live in a vault! 🤣
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post Mar 18 2019, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(when2meets2boy @ Mar 18 2019, 08:53 PM)
Indeed quite true, yeah, I just rechecked iProperty, price dipped a little, I think, still hovering around 1 mil.

, I've been drone flying over the place for a while, so I know where it is. Rafflesia is no go because access has to go through Samsara Damansara Perdana, and it's a less desirable leasehold, and the eyesore/danger that is Empire Residences.

Which side did you get for Airie. Do you find part of Airie faccing the North South Highway noisy? I'm curious to know.

Did the council explain the reason for the sinkhole?

Too bad, bad timing, wife's not going to agree to consider this side of Sri Damansara for some time.
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Airie cheapest is slightly less than 2mil after nego. Most are around 2.1 to 2.5 for semi d. Pool facing units are more expensive but I really don't fancy. My unit is cheap cheap one facing nkve ... We found ok but that's depending on individual. If you are outside the house the noise is noticeable. Inside the house ... not really once you have aircons and others on and with curtains.

Nkve traffic is quite far below the houses. The trees also act as sound barriers. We went a few times and finally decided it doesn't bother us and thus bought the unit.

Back to Activo/DA, the Activo Suites are quite nice. But I have been living in landed properties so condo is a no for me

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post Mar 19 2019, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Mar 19 2019, 11:44 AM)
This one quite obvious man.. No need such massive study . bangsar better than dpc. Dpc better than BSD. BSD better than damansara damai. Kepong better than rawang. Very clear one , choose location first mah,  don't just look at how nice or big the house is.
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I agree if you are buying to flip later. For own stay is slightly more complicated. As an example, I look at Rafflesia, Sunway Rymba, Effingham and Airie. BU and Damansara Perdana are slightly better location but Effingham is slightly too much for us plus it is a bit Chinaman 😂. Rafflesia is individual titled and look at the early phases houses each is different from the other: some got gates, some don't; some orange in color, some white and some are so ugily done up that I feel nauseated looking at them.

For own stay the design of the house is also important. We were keen to stay in TTDI or Sri Hartamas but for the house we wanted I have to sell all my body organs to buy one at these places. So we compromised and get a decent house in decent neighborhood. Not the bestest house and not bestest township 😂
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QUOTE(BukitKing222 @ Mar 19 2019, 02:46 PM)
What I am trying to imply is compared to ages ago, Subang and USJ is no longer the first choice for new home buyers. A lot of the first owners there have already migrated to Kota Kemuning, a newer township.

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When was Subang and USJ the first choice for new home buyer?? To be honest I have never considered Subang and USJ even for my very first home. My first choice was Sri Hartamas/TTDI 😊
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Mar 19 2019, 03:51 PM)
my 1st choice was bukit tunku but I cant afford it.
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Lol. In this case I also want to be in Bukit Tunku with 4 units... One for wife and 3 for mistresses please 🤣
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post Mar 19 2019, 04:40 PM

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Age of the township is actually not a factor in determining the value of the neighborhood. Other factors such as township planning, resident composition, sustainability (including green index), facilities determine how liveable and desirable the township is.
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post Mar 19 2019, 10:04 PM

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... And all I want to do is to retire in Taiping! 🤔
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post Mar 20 2019, 07:43 AM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Mar 19 2019, 10:43 PM)
At one stage taiping has the highest crime rate in malaysia.
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Must be the time when I was the student there! 😂
I lived in Taiping many years the only crime committed on me was bitten by a mad dog!
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post Mar 20 2019, 07:49 AM

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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Mar 19 2019, 11:29 PM)
No, not flipping .. For own stay ! OK I'm not questioning your choices here... But certain things are characteristic of neighbours, cannot change . so like minded people might prefer staying in certain neighbourhoods.  That's all I can say in this forum buddy.anyway no offense meant ya
But for me la I would have sacrificed sqfootage for hartamas or ttdi.
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No offense taken. But for the price I paid for airie I can likely only get a old link house in TTDI/Sri Hartamas. That's why I said for own stay is more complicated as different people have different criteria. Yours and mine are different.

For pure investment, buy the location where MOST people desired is the Golden rule
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Mar 20 2019, 09:39 AM)
Lots of break in...
Report few yrs back...

Not recently, and definitely not decades ago
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Taiping hardly has any migrant workers. You go to Larut Matang food court and will see only Grandpas, sons and grandsons working there.

It is listed as the world third greenest City and one of the best to retire ... And I could always gamble on when it will rain when I have so much time after retirement
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QUOTE(when2meets2boy @ Apr 1 2019, 08:52 PM)
Or else, I would have to add sound insulation barriers on the adjoining wall. Because I presume Bachelor patches more likely than not doesn't make good neighbours due to their 'active' lifestyles

So, I agree, the choice of unit layout per floor is weird.
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To be honest you can plan all you want but you still can't predict who will be your neighbor in condo. Doesn't mean family people won't move out and not noisy and bachelor patches are noisier. All these are luck to a certain extent. You may also have heavy foot on top of your units. That's why I chose to live in landed. Too bad still can't afford a nice bungalow in nice area 🤣
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QUOTE(when2meets2boy @ Apr 2 2019, 12:40 AM)
Good point. Perhaps have to reconsider the nearest best option Airie
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LOL. Airie next best option? Just plunk down 3mil for a bungalow there and you dont have to worry about all these problems! After my purchase, only Unit 78 semi d left that is in lower 2mil but that one is at the junction and close to HTC! Unit 33a three storey unit is nearly sold too. The rest will likely be 2.2 to 2.5mil.

BTW ...They are repairing the sink hole now and will be completed in July because they know that I am moving in after that. thumbup.gif
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post Oct 14 2019, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(digitalz @ Oct 14 2019, 04:34 PM)
Want to check with the peeps here. With the rate it is going at 1m+ for those 3R2B units, do you guys think that it's a worthwhile investment for own stay?

I'm curious since it's quite near to DPC but not really DPC area. I understand the BSD is a very matured area to stay in too.
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I have houses in SD and will move in to Airie in a couple of months. Personally I think the price is too high for this TA Global properties. This will make it not ideal if you are looking for big appreciation as the price is already high.

Everyone seems to love Desa Parkcity. DP appreciates more but now seems over valued to me. I happened to like SD more. I prefer greener, lower density township, quieter, less commercial buildings and SD fits the bill.
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post Oct 15 2019, 07:25 AM

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QUOTE(digitalz @ Oct 14 2019, 11:15 PM)
Not really looking at it for high appreciation. I am tempted to get in DP but its getting more and more crowded. I was driving around SD and like what you said it is more.. peaceful? Since it's already a matured township. I don't know how it will last though with the TA master plan coming in.
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If you are the type that are into high living DP has nice tracks, pubs, foods not to mention dogs meet and annual fireworks. Except the jogging track the rest I hate 😁
Non residents of DP there just to show off.

TA Global promises another shopping mall in SD. I hope that stupid idea die a quick death. We don't need another mall. Give a performing arts center, public sport center or even a cart track and will be a happy puppy.

I jog/walk every morning around the main Ring road of SD and it is cool and nice. On a windy or rainy day the night before you will see a lot broken branches on the road. It is just so much greener as it was previously a forest reserve.

In the end for own stay, you just have to know what type of person you are. 15 years ago of me would choose DP if price not a consideration. Now I consciously decide on SD over Dp 😁

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post Oct 15 2019, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(digitalz @ Oct 15 2019, 08:35 AM)
Haha. I love the environment at DP. Very family-oriented. I go there quite often for drinks/food and stuff. The pet-friendly society is just brilliant.

The things you mentioned will be given right? For my understanding of the masterplan. I wonder how the shopping mall would do though. Apparently TGV is going in too. (not too sure on this). Then there's the largest UNIQLO as well. I don't know what to expect when the whole project is done.
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I believe TA Global promises a mall, a performing art center and two connecting routes to direct to DP side and LDP. I was not fully into understanding when we were at the sales event (looking for a one bedroom for our daughter).

But these are just promises. God knows they will happen. Either way there is no harm to me. My house in SD is quite reasonably away from Activo. The may increase the house value if they are successful. If they fail, I can still jog around the Ring road peacefully 😁

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QUOTE(digitalz @ Oct 15 2019, 09:28 AM)
True. I was to the gallery as well and overall the place looks alright. One thing good about it should be - it's considered a full SA compared to some projects with commercial lots at the bottom (apart from the 6 shops/stores). That itself is appealing. I've looked at a few with shopping lots + apartments on top and I have doubts on them.

Like what you said, we won't know what would happen in the long run.  smile.gif
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One thing for sure ... The differentiation of DP from the rest is top notch management. You won't go wrong with that. TA Global makes a lot of noises and the early projects are decent but still have a long way to prove.

Since you like DP environment if I were you I will choose there. Valencia is another nearby nice township. Beautifully maintained but nothing much and you have to drive to DP or SD or Kepong to eat and drink. FYI For our semi d, we were choosing between Airie SD, Valencia and Rafflesia Damansara Perdana but I am true blue family man now and no social butterfly 🤣

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QUOTE(digitalz @ Oct 15 2019, 09:58 AM)
True on the bold part. That's why I am still considering around the surrounding areas. One reason I am comparing between both should be on the close proximity between the projects in the 2 areas. If DP and SD gets connected, then it'll be win-win. Either way, there's still the U-turn haha. biggrin.gif

The projects you viewed are too big for me. Unless I start a family from nowhere.  tongue.gif
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Aiyoo single people choose DP lah. Later you can sell it and still get good money for your bigger house with family.



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