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dauf87
post Jul 20 2010, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(dasoulz @ Jul 20 2010, 06:52 PM)
Guys, seems like the u2311 is available again. smile.gif But only RM131 off. Coupon doesn't seems to work.
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Yes its available now.. i've already book one =)
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post Jul 20 2010, 07:13 PM

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The discount coupon not working right?

oops its working. smile.gif RM70 off

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post Jul 20 2010, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(dauf87 @ Jul 20 2010, 06:55 PM)
Yes its available now.. i've already book one =)
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QUOTE(sam0919 @ Jul 17 2010, 12:25 AM)
guys did any1 heard of samsung p2770hd ? its different with p2770h lcd...while p2770hd is a led monitor..any1 know when it comes to malaysia?

currently own a p2700h lcd but really not satisfied as the viewing angle quite troublesome...let say if ur monitor on ur desk but u view ur monitor from down angle to top...u will not see clearly on wat display on the screen...putting on this big lcd on desk but cannot watch while lying on bed and have to adjust ur sitting position in order to view fully clearly vision its the most annoying factor to me...
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P2770HD is using CCFL backlit. its more of "Hybrid LCD", a model trying to do both the job of computer monitor and TV. since its just another TN panel, it will suffer the same problem as your old P2770.


QUOTE(dauf87 @ Jul 19 2010, 07:17 AM)
................................It looks that Samsung doesnt produce IPS panel LCD monitor..am i right?

Have a look at this site : http://www.pchardwarehelp.com/guides/s-ips-lcd-list.php.....................

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Samsung is the supporter of VA, they developed S/PVA after all. if you like Korean brand, LG Display make S/H-IPS panel.

QUOTE(Top-Gun @ Jul 20 2010, 12:48 PM)
Even from 2007WFP to U2311H... colours are much vibrant, viewing angles remained the same while text was sharp in both landscape/portrait mode while my old Dell 2007WFP seemed to have a problem of displaying sharp text in portrait mode.

So this U2410, despite the AG coating (couldn't notice it much really, maybe I am used to it already with the 2007WFP) totally rocked my socks.
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maybe because your 2007WFP is a S-PVA?

QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Jul 16 2010, 06:13 PM)
Hmm how to describe... You can see that the white color is really white.... while LCD does not appear as white, instead it appears white mix with other color. I can't really tell the rest of the color as I'm only viewing the video and not personally tested myself. But white color seems pretty significant even you watch through video.............................

.....................For more information or you want to see the difference yourself, you can watch this video in youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQHcpF7wY8c
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technically speaking, the color temperature determine the appearance of white. the color accuracy can be 100% correct yet the white will look redish or warm if the color temp is 5000K, and vice versus for high color temp. without any measuring tools, human skin--we see it every second--might be good indication of how well the monitor produce color.

btw, current phosphor based white LED isn't the best in light quality. I personally don't see the need to go LED, 1)brightness, I have to use 10 or even 0 brightness setting on CCFL already; 2)power efficiency, my 24" use ~50W, the most LED can cut is half = 25W. if I use it 8hrs a day, a year later, it will only cost me an extra of a few Singapore dollar, I'm use MY charge electricity even lower. now see the pricetag of monitor with LED backlit monitor, how much the manufacturer charge over their equivalent LCD with CCFL? please don't fall prey to their market BS.

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post Jul 20 2010, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(dasoulz @ Jul 20 2010, 07:13 PM)
The discount coupon not working right?

oops its working. smile.gif RM70 off
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dunno about the coupn..argh!! tongue.gif


Added on July 20, 2010, 10:51 pm
QUOTE(V3nz @ Jul 20 2010, 08:23 PM)
Lucky you eh brows.gif  thumbup.gif  rclxm9.gif
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U2311H definitely among the best small-medium budget IPS panel LCD..


Added on July 20, 2010, 10:55 pm
QUOTE(kimurastanley @ Jul 17 2010, 02:15 AM)
u need an IPS monitor if u want good viewing angle.. LED monitor viewing angle is the same with the TN monitor
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definitely u should get IPS panel monitor.. more importantly u should get S-IPS/H-IPS panel LCD not e-IPS panel LCD..


Added on July 20, 2010, 11:00 pm
QUOTE(limcc @ Jul 20 2010, 08:51 PM)
Samsung is the supporter of VA, they developed S/PVA after all. if you like Korean brand, LG Display make S/H-IPS panel.
Owh, I'm not a Samsung supporter really biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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post Jul 21 2010, 07:45 AM

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finally ordered 1 as well. Replacing my 5 year old 17inch Dell LCD. gonna use my old 17 inch to watch live football matches and new one to play games..hehe
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QUOTE(limcc @ Jul 20 2010, 08:51 PM)
maybe because your 2007WFP is a S-PVA?
technically speaking, the color temperature determine the appearance of white. the color accuracy can be 100% correct yet the white will look redish or warm if the color
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Mine's definitely an LG/Philips LMW2001TAU (if I remember correctly) panel after checking out the service code as well as having to live with the IPS glow.
I think it arises due to many factors such as:

1) Excitement over new monitor
2) Wow feeling upon pressing the power button and going WOW
3) Better CCFL backlights

Now after going to U2410 from U2311H, I don't find any difference at all.
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How do you use the coupon code in the dell website?
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post Jul 21 2010, 12:09 PM

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Errr, may I know what exactly the difference between Dell U2311H and U2410 other than the viewing angle and also U2410 has HDMI but U2311H does not? unsure.gif
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post Jul 21 2010, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(excel_saga @ Jul 21 2010, 12:02 PM)
How do you use the coupon code in the dell website?
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Go through the product customisation and reach the billing. In there, there should be the option to paste your coupon code in the "Coupon Entry".

Please note that the coupon code may discriminate between the "Business" and "Home" sections. If it doesn't work for when you buy through the "Home", try the "Business" section.

QUOTE(ConquerorX @ Jul 21 2010, 12:09 PM)
Errr, may I know what exactly the difference between Dell U2311H and U2410 other than the viewing angle and also U2410 has HDMI but U2311H does not? unsure.gif
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For details, you can hit Dell's product specification pages for the two. But shouldn't the viewing angle of the U2311H and the U2410 be similar?

Anyway, the U2410 has a lot of connectors, including Display Port and composite video. The other big difference is that the U2410 has an aspect ratio of 16:10, due to its 1920x1200 screen resolution vs the U2311H's 16:9 with 1920x1080 screen resolution.

At least those are the two biggest differences I think of.


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QUOTE(everling @ Jul 21 2010, 12:59 PM)
For details, you can hit Dell's product specification pages for the two. But shouldn't the viewing angle of the U2311H and the U2410 be similar?

Anyway, the U2410 has a lot of connectors, including Display Port and composite video. The other big difference is that the U2410 has an aspect ratio of 16:10, due to its 1920x1200 screen resolution vs the U2311H's 16:9 with 1920x1080 screen resolution.

At least those are the two biggest differences I think of.
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U2410 is using H-IPS panel vs U2311H is using e-IPS panel..

Comparing both type of IPS panel. H-IPS/S-IPS panel remains the best type of IPS panel.. e-IPS panel r use for mid-range budget monitor like Dell U2311H, HP ZW24R or NEC EA231WMi..

The main drawback of e-IPS panel is the viewing angle is smaller than H-IPS/S-IPS panel but still bigger than TN panel..

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post Jul 21 2010, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(dauf87 @ Jul 21 2010, 01:30 PM)
U2410 is using H-IPS panel vs U2311H is using e-IPS panel..

Comparing both type of IPS panel. H-IPS/S-IPS panel remains the best type of IPS panel.. e-IPS panel r use for mid-range budget monitor like Dell U2310, HP ZW24R or NEC EA231WMi..

The main drawback of e-IPS panel is the viewing angle is smaller than H-IPS/S-IPS panel but still bigger than TN panel..
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Good info there @ dauf87. Sorry, everling, what I meant was viewing size. One is 23" and one is 24". Well, with the price of U2410 can get almost 2 x U2311H though for dual monitor sweat.gif
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erm i would to ask one thing.

The connection for S-IPS, H-IPS, P-MVA or whatever connection it has.

Let say the DVI has problem, I have to use Analog. Is the connection like described above affected? I know that DVI has digital signalling where it uses 8-bit, so the picture on the screen will be more beautiful.
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post Jul 21 2010, 02:34 PM

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Any reviews for PX2370 from lyn users?
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post Jul 21 2010, 04:36 PM

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Took some pictures of the U2410 last night.

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post Jul 21 2010, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(dauf87 @ Jul 21 2010, 01:30 PM)
U2410 is using H-IPS panel vs U2311H is using e-IPS panel..

Comparing both type of IPS panel. H-IPS/S-IPS panel remains the best type of IPS panel.. e-IPS panel r use for mid-range budget monitor like Dell U2310, HP ZW24R or NEC EA231WMi..

The main drawback of e-IPS panel is the viewing angle is smaller than H-IPS/S-IPS panel but still bigger than TN panel..
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Thanks for the info. smile.gif

QUOTE(ConquerorX @ Jul 21 2010, 02:23 PM)
Good info there @ dauf87. Sorry, everling, what I meant was viewing size. One is 23" and one is 24". Well, with the price of U2410 can get almost 2 x U2311H though for dual monitor sweat.gif
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I would rather buy a U2410 than have two U2311H. Because of the damned aspect ratio. Why a professional would want a 16:9 aspect ratio for his professional monitor is beyond me.

Only the finest will do...

[Top-Gun], maybe I missed it, but what happened with your two U2311H?

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QUOTE(everling @ Jul 21 2010, 04:39 PM)
Thanks for the info. smile.gif
I would rather buy a U2410 than have two U2311H. Because of the damned aspect ratio. Why a professional would want a 16:9 aspect ratio for his professional monitor is beyond me.

[Top-Gun], maybe I missed it, but what happened with your two U2311H?
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Ditto.

I originally thought I could use 2xU2311H for the price of 1 U2410 but I came full circle - using a U2410 currently.

Nothing beats the 16:10 aspect ratio.. for those that managed to get used to it, I guess they came from using laptops (widescreen) but I have always been a desktop user so maybe that is where our difference lies.

@everling: I sold those off to fund for a U2410. One was even left in its virgin condition.. even a U2311H was enough real estate for me!
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Oh. Yes, I also found it difficult to use two monitors at the same time, ending up with a tendency to focus on only one monitor.

I still have some small hope of getting my old 2407WFP(sp?) fixed and then I can try to dual monitor again and hopefully get used to it. Apparently it's missing a hard to find replacement for the damaged component. I'm not missing it much though, as the colours as had rather yellowed after three years.
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Thanks Top-Gun for the pics. I guess I should go for 1 x U2410 for now first smile.gif
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QUOTE(ConquerorX @ Jul 21 2010, 12:09 PM)
Errr, may I know what exactly the difference between Dell U2311H and U2410 other than the viewing angle and also U2410 has HDMI but U2311H does not? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(ConquerorX @ Jul 21 2010, 02:23 PM)
Good info there @ dauf87. Sorry, everling, what I meant was viewing size. One is 23" and one is 24". Well, with the price of U2410 can get almost 2 x U2311H though for dual monitor sweat.gif
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16:9 aspect ratio allow the manufacturer to cut more pieces from a large glass. despite the mere 1" different, the U2311H appear visually smaller than U2410:

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pic taken from FlatpanelsHD.

the viewing angle is similar, I do not see any noticeable difference. the U2311H has more pronounce "glowing effect", when view from extreme angle, the black will glow, like this:

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pic taken from FlatpanelsHD. this only visible in black or really dark scenes, no problem for white or any other visible color.

the U2410 also have its own issue, the infamous pink tint:

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less visible from extreme horizontal angle, worst at white.


beside the inputs, U2410 is a wide gamut color monitor, covering 97% of Adobe RGB color space. great if you are a photographer taking photo in AdobeRGB color space as it can display more truth to live captured photo, especially in green channel. also allow all printable CMYK color to be visible on screen. but it may be a bad idea to use wide color gamut monitor for ordinary user cause if a photo taken using sRGB profile is display on a unprofiles monitor, all color would be wrong. but then, without monitor calibration, all monitor will display wrong color, so its a matter of how bad the color shift. from personal experience, if one stare at the unprofile wide color gamut monitor for days, the ordinary monitor will look pale or desaturated in color...

I got my U2410 last September, for months I had been trying desperately to tweak the color cause it not only have pink tint, it also have green tint. in the end I have to spend another >S$300 for a colorimeter to correct the green tint--pink tint is hopeless but its only happen from an angle. the U2311H on the other hand, looks almost perfect out of the box. IMHO, get U2410 if you need the extended color space and inputs, get U2311H if you don't want the headache and its a good deal cheaper.

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