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post Oct 27 2010, 12:29 PM

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What are your thoughts on this acer?

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%253A%...&h=80c8a&ref=nf

Friend selling it for 680. I want it to be able to display my PS3 games which i think it can with the DVI.
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QUOTE(BlueBerry~ @ Oct 27 2010, 12:29 PM)
What are your thoughts on this acer?

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%253A%...&h=80c8a&ref=nf

Friend selling it for 680. I want it to be able to display my PS3 games which i think it can with the DVI.
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For that price you can get Dell U2311h, which now become cheaper again from Dell, at price of RM 639.

http://www1.ap.dell.com/my/en/business/mon...1&~tab=5&~ck=mn


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QUOTE(MeToo @ Oct 26 2010, 06:21 PM)
Last weekend got the Samsung BX2450 for my wife's PC.

Last night installed it... wah lau.. first time I seen before... the screen top part is dark while the bottom part is brighter. And it's goes form dark to bright very smoothly/progressively as u scan form top to bottom  doh.gif

Also, the monitor is not as sharp as I like it to be, in comparison, my Samsung P2350 looks sharper with more crisp graphics as i compare it side by side.

Tomorrow will go change a new unit and see if its better.
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Grainy or uneven brightness on Samsung LCD exists since long time ago. Some Dell LCD panels oso OEMed by Samsung having the same prob. LG Philips dont this issue but AOC is the worst amongst these LCD mfrs.
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post Oct 27 2010, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(CallOfLegend @ Oct 27 2010, 12:38 PM)
For that price you can get Dell U2311h, which now become cheaper again from Dell, at price of RM 639.

http://www1.ap.dell.com/my/en/business/mon...1&~tab=5&~ck=mn
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Hmm. Checked the product page. Whats this USB upstream and downstream? I assume its input and output. But which is which?
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post Oct 27 2010, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(BlueBerry~ @ Oct 27 2010, 01:04 PM)
Hmm. Checked the product page. Whats this USB upstream and downstream? I assume its input and output. But which is which?
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Upstream = input
Downstream = output

From the specs it's very easy to identify, 1 in multi out.
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post Oct 27 2010, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(BlueBerry~ @ Oct 27 2010, 01:04 PM)
Hmm. Checked the product page. Whats this USB upstream and downstream? I assume its input and output. But which is which?
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The monitor can acts as USB hub (4 port, 2 on left side, 2 other on back) with one input to the monitor, 4 out of it.
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post Oct 28 2010, 12:16 AM

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Juz make sure it's hdcp compliant. If not u'll have trouble running display from ps3.

The U series from dell are fine with ps3 displays. They're cheap IPS models which is very rare on the market these days to see IPS surface at this price on the market with below 24" models.

Though at the same price, u could probably get 24" TN panels which is HD ready,LED and even has a HDMI input. Unless u r the lazy type that like to lie down and play games/watch movie if not i believe that TN panels shud be fine for u.

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post Oct 28 2010, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Oct 26 2010, 06:21 PM)
Last weekend got the Samsung BX2450 for my wife's PC.

Last night installed it... wah lau.. first time I seen before... the screen top part is dark while the bottom part is brighter. And it's goes form dark to bright very smoothly/progressively as u scan form top to bottom  doh.gif

Also, the monitor is not as sharp as I like it to be, in comparison, my Samsung P2350 looks sharper with more crisp graphics as i compare it side by side.

Tomorrow will go change a new unit and see if its better.
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Continuation of my Samsung saga.

Took unit back to ALL-IT to change new BX2450, no stock, BX2350 no stock...

Then I take B2430, some old LCD form Samsung (by the time i abit bored liao), tested 1 unit, dead pixel, tested 2nd unit, no power at all. They took out 3rd unit, display unit, i ask them to forget it.

Finally I took the P2770H Samsung, LCD, need to topup 250+ as it retails for $1120. Tested, looks ok, fine took it home.

Install on my wife PC, eh, cannot detect at all hmm..... ok pull to my PC.. ALSO cannot detect. Maybe cable problem, I use another DVI>DVI cable. Also cannot. Then I tried the VGA>DVI cable (only my wife video card have VGA output) and it works. By now i'm REALLY pissed with Samsung liao.

Tonite, once again, will take back to try there.

2 THings here,
1) ALL-IT (PJ branch) people are reasonably helpful.
2) BAN Samsung


Added on October 28, 2010, 10:40 am
QUOTE(owikh84 @ Oct 27 2010, 12:41 PM)
Grainy or uneven brightness on Samsung LCD exists since long time ago. Some Dell LCD panels oso OEMed by Samsung having the same prob. LG Philips dont this issue but AOC is the worst amongst these LCD mfrs.
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I think for me it's more the reliability of Samsung, once I finally found a working unit (my current P2350 also I needed to exchange TWICE) everything is fine and I like it. I just couldnt bring myself to trust Samsung anymore as a premium brand providing a reliable product.

So... anyone have any suggestion on a $1k+ monitor? I cannot get a refund form ALL-IT for sure...

This post has been edited by MeToo: Oct 28 2010, 10:40 AM
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post Oct 28 2010, 03:19 PM

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Why not choose Dell? I don't think Dell has this kind of issue, well some people do but the numbers is small.
Go with ST2420L, my friend got it from ordering through 1 of the forumer here, you can do "dell monitor" search at Trade Section. Although it's slow delivery but the panel has premium guarantee, which not many of the local branded LCD does (I haven found any yet so far). Even with 1 bright pixels you can exchange on next business day, provided they have stock at the local agent.
And oh, they deliver to your home, same goes to warranty and service, you just need to sit back at home and relax.
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post Oct 28 2010, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Oct 28 2010, 03:19 PM)
Why not choose Dell? I don't think Dell has this kind of issue, well some people do but the numbers is small.
Go with ST2420L, my friend got it from ordering through 1 of the forumer here, you can do "dell monitor" search at Trade Section. Although it's slow delivery but the panel has premium guarantee, which not many of the local branded LCD does (I haven found any yet so far). Even with 1 bright pixels you can exchange on next business day, provided they have stock at the local agent.
And oh, they deliver to your home, same goes to warranty and service, you just need to sit back at home and relax.
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Kinda too late for me, as the shop will never refund, they will allow me to change to other models/items. But I already plunk 1k+ and if I order dell means I will be spending close to 2k for a monitor sigh. Also, dell, I dont think ALL-IT carry them instore.
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Oct 28 2010, 03:48 PM)
Kinda too late for me, as the shop will never refund, they will allow me to change to other models/items. But I already plunk 1k+ and if I order dell means I will be spending close to 2k for a monitor sigh. Also, dell, I dont think ALL-IT carry them instore.
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Well, better choose other brand then, I don't really trust Samsung anymore, my last 2333SW was great disappointment, that's why I gave up on Samsung, was my best choice brand. doh.gif
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Oct 28 2010, 02:48 PM)
Kinda too late for me, as the shop will never refund, they will allow me to change to other models/items. But I already plunk 1k+ and if I order dell means I will be spending close to 2k for a monitor sigh. Also, dell, I dont think ALL-IT carry them instore.
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now you know why some people say samsung is highly overrated. wink.gif

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post Oct 28 2010, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Oct 28 2010, 03:52 PM)
Well, better choose other brand then, I don't really trust Samsung anymore, my last 2333SW was great disappointment, that's why I gave up on Samsung, was my best choice brand. doh.gif
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Ya..... same here, imagine my dissapointment at what kind of realiability I get after buying the most expensive monitor in the whole store.

Anyway, other then Samsung (and also Dell cause that's mostly web order), what is other decent brands? AOC? LG?
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post Oct 28 2010, 04:25 PM

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Guys. Looking for 20" monitor. Budget leas than 400. Found acer s201hl or samsung e2020x as both gave dvi inputs. Any comments?
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post Oct 28 2010, 07:02 PM

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but RM1120 might can get 2units 22" monitor as well.
Otherwise for nearly 1k are HP 2509p, Samsung PX2370, XL2370. ViewSonic VX2739WM?

Btw darkskies, Dell 23" IPS is not rare for their price. Thanks to mass production, massive purchase offer from many Company to manufacturer. AOC, Viewsonic, etc...

BenQ VA panel+LED blacklit caming soon. Now is a chance waiting IPS+ LED backlit from other company wakaka~ Best Best Best thumbup.gif
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post Oct 28 2010, 08:57 PM

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For me i'm very happy with FP241VW XD...
That's the best lcd i've ever switched into. I got this from a lyn who kept it in perfect condition.


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post Oct 29 2010, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(Onion-KiD @ Oct 28 2010, 07:02 PM)
but RM1120 might can get 2units 22" monitor as well.
Otherwise for nearly 1k are HP 2509p, Samsung PX2370, XL2370. ViewSonic VX2739WM?

Btw darkskies, Dell 23" IPS is not rare for their price. Thanks to mass production, massive purchase offer from many Company to manufacturer. AOC, Viewsonic, etc...

BenQ VA panel+LED blacklit caming soon. Now is a chance waiting IPS+ LED backlit from other company wakaka~ Best Best Best  thumbup.gif
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Finally went to Low Yat branch to exchange the P2770H as the PJ branch dont have any stock above 700$ bah.

PX2370 is a good call, i think it's the newer version of the XL2370 which i dont think is worth the price, it's just looks slimmer/nicer but no function above the PX2370 which is actually slight cheaper (by about RM50?). I was going to get the PX2370 but alas they have another P2770H to exchange for me.

Also, I saw 2 other people buying LCD there and tested it at the service counter, the technician there did not bother to let the customer check for dead pixels, they just booted it up and show some pretty wallpaper and that's it. Buyers beware. In my case, I specifically ASK to check for dead pixel but they claim they do not have any program to display red/blue/green etc. So i had to go into windows and display solid colour wallpaer and do it manually myself.. sigh.

I also noted the Low Yat ALL-IT service counter peopel are less friendlier compared to the PJ branch.
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post Oct 29 2010, 11:29 AM

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they are lazy to entertain so many customers daily..
PJ branch not that heavy i guess..

yes i would prefer sellers that can easily nego/discuss about the items..
but not those who have no idea and simply say what ever across his mind without knowing the fact..
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U2311H or P2370? does the respond time of u2311H affects gaming?
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Anyone have a recommendation for a 24" LCD or LED with Full HD 1080p?I've been researching alot of 24" lcds but so far i still cant make any decision.Shud i get those with HDMI inputs or DVI will just do fine?Time to replace my samsung 2243SWX PLUS.

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