For typical user, U2311H is like a dream, @.@ beautiful... want to own 1.
For the graphics pro... it's like a cheap and frustration regret.. LOL.

i've lived with TN screens for the past 3 years, im not regretting that i got a U2311H

Yeap~ I noticed those TN users switch to U2311H is like , it's definitely a great upgrade from any TN panel.
But some of IPS users here saw some weaknesses in this cheap IPS panel, perhaps it's just not targeted at them.

its not the best IPS. but its sure bang for my buck

Is this thread selling any LCD 15inch spare parts or used spare parts for notebook? My notebook need one...

Sorry? This thread is for discussion, and chatting... *ahem*... perhaps you should head to Trade Zone for your question.

Dell seems to be rather clever in marking up the price prior to their IPS models.

I've yet to see any Models below 23" which is IPS and yet possess a HDMI input.

I've check thru though, hdmi and dvi actually the same just that dvi doesnt support sound transmitting whereas hdmi does*Who would actually use hdmi to really transmit good sound quality thru the lousy speakers installed in lcds =.=*.

Most model which have hdmi are usually TN panels but if they do have HDMI and yet use IPS it'll be 1.7k above. Models running IPS without hdmi just cost around 650 these days. Basically users are just paying twice the price for dell to include a hdmi input..

I might have overlooked the details since i've just started out checkin up on good display and availability on the market these days.
I've not bothered to look on other brands because they wouldn't state what panel they are using. U can see all the flashy features they've included like first 1ms ,super wide viewing,lagless , ghostless,super accurate life like image capturing. But one thing they'll always left out is, what panel they using.Dell on the other hand state out clearly what they are using which buy customer's trust totally. What's the point of having a 2-3 pages of flashy features where none of them describe what panel they are using.

The panel used actually described best then having flashy features.

Though one thing i looked, anything below RM700 ,22inch or above with hdmi input is definitelly TN panel. Anything with HDMI input and IPS with 24inch above, be prepared to forked out 1.7k or more for it.

I've looked through so far for 22inch with IPS panel due to the fact that i already possess a 24inch lcd and it've eaten half of my desk place. But so far.. only U2211H has the requirement i wanted.. I'd actually tried lookin thru other models but i always give up because of no description on what panel.

you know, office working place doesn't need HDMI for work, U2311H is design for office use.
But IPS wave cause normal user purchase it.

Through experience, I found out connecting to the monitor via HDMI only supports a few resolutions, while through the DVI, more selection.
I'm saying this as the screen I'm using now is native 1360x768. And there wasn't such option when I connect to the screen using the HDMI cable. The closest thing was 720p. I could also run at 1080i, however, it's the wrong frequency. And it appears blurry on my screen

A driver issue? Problems with the cable?

Judging on this, I'm thinking that the HDMI is more of a replacement for the S-Video and Srgb format, whereas DVI to VGA etc.

U2410 (24") is targeted at professional level, there's such features (110% color gamut, Adobe RGB, etc.) that makes this panel expensive, not just HDMI, it uses better IPS panel (even IPS has different level and types).
Basically you're paying 1 cent for 1 cent product, IPS was never cheap to begin with, even its brother 2209WA is much expensive, less resolution, less features, but graphics wise 2209WA beats U2311H, that's where it's different, Ultrasharp panel doesn't looks at quantity of I/O (DVI, VGA, HDMI, etc.) but rather the panel itself, that's what makes it the IPS.

HDMI only support 720p and 1080(i/p), and this is not driver support issues, a panel has its own maximum resolution, such as when you choose 1080i on a maximum 768p panel, it'll blur out as it try to cramp all 1920x1080 pixels into 1368x768.
I have no comment on the HDMI to replace the older S-Video and SRGB, because there's still some TV out there support such inputs, for legacy products? Who knows, and VGA definitely comes a long way, and probably will stay for long time.

thx for pointing out. I'm not too informative over panels which i didnt notice ips have lower and higher range.

would like to get my hands on u2410.. unfortunately my desk already have fp241vw which already ocuppied half of the desk... so i needed a 2nd one which won't exceed 22inch.

One thing i notice... ips models doesnt seems to indicate full hd. Any difference between full hd and the ones which doesnt indicate full hd?
Seems only TN panels has it and 27inch above has full hd.

Full HD = 21.5" above 16:9 ratio monitors.
Full HD is just a marketing gimmick used by LCD manufacturers, monitor resolutions that are higher than 1920x1080 actually exists before Full HD monitor/TV.
Monitors like Dell U2711H and Apple Cinena Display 27" has 2560x1440 resolution, I've seen old CRT monitor with resolution of 2048x1536.

For U2311h (or monitor with DVI input without hdmi) users that need to use hdmi can get a hdmi to dvi converter here.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=290453557042

I get it for a very cheap price, not exceed RM6 including shipping. No problem connecting my PS3 at 1920x1080 resolution. And I received the item only after 10 days.

And for those who need a hdmi cable can get here for RM15.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=110522274427

Full HD = 1920 x 1080, for now. HD Ready (or just HD) usually refer to 720p.
Nowadays you can't judge screen size for its resolution, last time there were only 23" and 24" that able to do Full HD, now even the laptop 16" able to output Full HD resolution, so? You have get the model right and look at the correct specs.
Right now desktop monitor smallest screen size that able to do Full HD is 21.5", probably able to shrink even less in few years to come.
27" IPS won't use Full HD, they exceed that resolution, they're tend for professional that need to utilize more pixel space.

This post has been edited by wildwestgoh: Oct 17 2010, 01:08 PM

Infact we are already there....camera screen also FULL HD liaw..:>:>:>:>

is there anyone press ON or OFF button on LCD/LED monitor when booting / shutting down PC?
i using CRT previously and pressed ON all the time no matter with/without power supply and monitor will show standby mode (orange LED) if no signal from GC...

doubt whether it will harm LCD/LED monitor if i use the same method (never OFF monitor), but only with/without power supply... cut the power supply under standby mode without press OFF button on monitor... felt quite hassle to ON/OFF monitor everytime...

no difference to me
tutup switch = 0 electric current = off
i use monitor switch only when im leaving but still have work running on PC
so that when i come back, i just press monitor ON

contact this forummer hakkinen


u don't know about dell history last time playing panel lottery
from my personal view, IPS (mostly LG) is not the best. in market still got PVA (Samsung), MVA (unsure), ASV (Sharp) & a few not mentioned that unknown to us

actually from view angle spec, TN panel never advertise above 170° H/V
23" samsung CPVA panel F2380M selling about RM900+ with multi input include HDMI, and multiple adjustment stand just like dell
that will be in my room after i move U2410 heat monster to office. go check it out


2209WA is meant for cheap, EIPS inside. i got one too, like it very much (large text)
i am the one buying ultrasharp for multi input "
dulu very hard to find a 15" with VGA +DVI +soundbar + 4usb hub +swivel +pivot +height adjust but dell made it!!
same reason that i buy 2209WA

while surfing net, suddenly saw a few new products from BenQ MY
highlights:
XL2410T --23.6" monitor 120Hz
EW2420 --24" multimedia monitor LED +VA panel
BL2400PT --24" business monitor, LED +VA panel


if price are good, Dell MY and IPS family got challenger liao

This post has been edited by ktek: Oct 18 2010, 10:08 PM

woot nice. Estimate price range RM800~1000. Good