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 V3. Swiftlet Keeping Discussion, Home of Fuciphagus Domesticus

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post Oct 12 2011, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(TinkleBell @ Oct 11 2011, 10:26 PM)
Hi Members

I have someone looking for 300 - 500 kgs of  Grade A cleaned birdnest.  Please quote.  Genuien nest and offer please.

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who is TinkleBell ????

u really want 300kg?????what price per kg?????how to contact you??????

no easy to believe lo

i also can create new user as buyer said i want 1000kg nest as RM3000 per kg lo..... smile.gif
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post Oct 12 2011, 10:11 AM

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it is officially exposed..with the biggest market of bn in china, guangzhou, officers are raiding all outlets selling red nests...

Pray hard that consumers will still buy white nests for their own consumptions.....

if kuantan nests also selling at rm2.6k....think i got a good prices at rm2.85k then....but tht was old prices a week ago....with guangzhou news come out......better keep till Jan and wait for miracle loh.....
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post Oct 12 2011, 11:44 AM

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Hi WW & CK

Totally agreed with you that when they are still buyers around, meaning the demand is there. Good advice for the industry to hold the stock to stable the price. It is just like shares trading, panic selling will cause the BN sharemarket down south.

Tinklebell is just a normal person who is very interested to own a BH, god's willing. I have been following this forum actively and learn alot. Sometimes input one or two of my 2 cents wink.gif

The enquiry is from a friend. I have question him of the order too. He tome is serious, but only god knows. I am just coordinating and if the deal is success then maybe I get a few pieces FOC wink.gif from him.

CK, you can PM me the price and it will be treated strictly P&C. I am a friend here and not enermy or sobatager as I will be in the same ship hopefully very very soon smile.gif God's willing.

Good to get rid once and for all the color thing. Get he REAL thing lah.

BTW, someone mention about a machine for cleaning that will lower the nitrite level. What type of machine is this? Is it a filter only? Where to get it? I wanted to know for knowledge. Who knows I might process my own from my own BH in future wink.gif

Good day Guys
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post Oct 12 2011, 01:35 PM

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i will try believe in patience for once. By holding bird nest stocks until the price is more stable rm3.8k-rm4.4k
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post Oct 12 2011, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(mois @ Oct 12 2011, 01:35 PM)
i will try believe in patience for once. By holding bird nest stocks until the price is more stable rm3.8k-rm4.4k
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Just my way of doing EBN stock market strategy...drawing our own defence line like stock market preventing a free for all.

1. When market drop from RM4800 to Rm4200, we try to sell above Rm4400 and if possible negotiate a more suitable price at the moment.
2. When the price drop at Rm3800, we manage to secure at Rm4100......more or less Rm100.
3. When the price is at Rm3400, we refused to sell.
4. When price drop to Rm2600 AB mixed, we ask for more or less Rm3400 which formally we refused to sell. Hopefully, we can manage to get the price up again....selling lesser but getting higher price is better than selling more and getting less. We are doing our little part to ensure a better tomorrow for all if possible.

Our intention is to force the market price up and in forward gear instead of reverse gear now and even if we suffer alittle losses now, hopefully, in the near future, we will be able to gain more if we play our games well. Otherwise, the ball will be at the other side, and we are always on defensive and at their mercy which they will determine how and when to strike..

People generally will forget as usual do and pls don't remind them of the RED matter which is past and should be gone and those dealing with it deserve all they get and should be more........playing with public's health. A crime I must add.

Remember experts saying that the price may drop alittle after a few weeks due to present New Year orders which I think isn't because all said that the factories are having tons of nests on hand and why and who's buying now; it must because that it's cheap,eh? Or otherwise, there are many orders which we weren't informed and knew.

Have anyone being to Guangzhou lately and all Red Nests must be removed or taken off the shelves but are our nests selling OK still??? Those pure nests that neither pure white or reddish in color......alittle like we chinese, a little brownish and yellowish which are good for health....hahahaha. My friend who has outlets in China said that the present problem is getting the nests there but there are orders. Who's right and who's lying, that I don't know and maybe, you can.

My view and opinion on the matter to share.

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post Oct 12 2011, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(West Wing @ Oct 12 2011, 03:10 PM)
Just my way of doing EBN stock market strategy...drawing our own defence line like stock market preventing a free for all.

1. When market drop from RM4800 to Rm4200, we try to sell above Rm4400 and if possible negotiate a more suitable price at the moment.
2. When the price drop at Rm3800, we manage to secure at Rm4100......more or less Rm100.
3.  When the price is at Rm3400, we refused to sell.
4. When price drop to Rm2600 AB mixed, we ask for more or less Rm3400 which formally we refused to sell. Hopefully, we can manage to get the price up again....selling lesser but getting higher price is better than selling more and getting less. We are doing our little part to ensure a better tomorrow for all if possible.

Our intention is to force the market price up and in forward gear instead of reverse gear now and even if we suffer alittle losses now, hopefully, in the near future, we will be able to gain more if we play our games well. Otherwise, the ball will be at the other side, and we are always on defensive and at their mercy which they will determine how and when to strike..

People generally will forget as usual do and pls don't remind them of the RED matter which is past and should be gone and those dealing with it deserve all they get and should be more........playing with public's health. A crime I must add.

Remember experts saying that the price may drop alittle after a few weeks due to present New Year orders which I think isn't because all said that the factories are having tons of nests on hand and why and who's buying now; it must because that it's cheap,eh? Or otherwise, there are many orders which we weren't informed and knew.

Have anyone being to Guangzhou lately and all Red Nests must be removed or taken off the shelves  but are our nests selling OK still??? Those pure nests that neither pure white or reddish in color......alittle like we chinese, a little brownish and yellowish which are good for health....hahahaha. My friend who has outlets in China said that the present problem is getting the nests there but there are orders. Who's right and who's lying, that I don't know and maybe, you can.

My view and opinion  on the matter to share.
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what u think is up to u if u think u r e sifu here but not at e market out there.as even till today china is still hantaming bird nest hardly=

http://news.cntv.cn/china/20111012/109680.shtml
its today noon news n it say they use shit to process nest.white or red is not the matter now as consumer there surely will viod this product fr long long long enough.now is a good opertunity fr u guys to keep yr nest but before keeping it get few grm to run n nitrtie test at yr town or gov VET cheap ny n after u keep fr some time n before u sell ,run a test again to see e nitrite %ppm/kg only then u say yr nest is good fr others health or not ya.
as now over flooded white nest r reaching 200ton n cant sell so after CNY also cannot go n china keep up e good work by hantaming weekly then good luck to u guys as we estimate will be over 500ton before jun nex year...as fr yr fren tat hav shop there does he sell 2kg in 3 month time ??u know i know la..dont blur others with those kinds of info..

as now if u bring nest to trading market says its malaysia nest u sure kena ""puuiii" as frm my bos there(HK &CN) really hate u guys now.
does u guys relise malaysia monthly 15Ton go to where ah??does we really can clean n export by our self ah??not yet n now e GOV r here dy to put a leg into tis n todays papers also the horse also making noise dy"""Beehhhhhh"Beeehhhh"

u guys remember the "wang wang biscuit" case??only 1factory in china has problem the whole group of factory n world wide market die off so easly,,,till today no one buys it....itu biskut lah kawan..rm$2.50 satu bungkus ..tis is bird nest talking bout RMB$60,000 to $100,000 per KG there la n today news says its smoke by shit""wah ,geng la....

hai,,,donno how to say...tats wat info i got up to now

http://www.yanwoxing.com/index.asp

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post Oct 12 2011, 04:43 PM

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selling not selling is up to the sellers.

there basically three groups of farmers :

1) farmers tht treat this biz as hobby...they dont' have to sell unless they felt liked selling when the price is what they think is reasonable price. they don't really affected by it.

2) farmers tht depends on this biz to survive to pay bank loan....they have to sell eventhough the prices are much lower than reasonable price as bank cannot wait for u to wait for good prices to sell n then only pay the loan installment....n not surprisingly n unluckily, i am in this group lah..

3) farmers tht harvests hundreds of kilo a month....they whole house smell liked bn, and whenever they see all the bn scattering around living room, store room, and even bedrooms n until they can't even move around the house....they just feel liked want to vomit...n really fedup looking at all these bn...worst still, don't even dare to go out at night as worry breakin....so, what they can do? they have to sell loh...


btw, just in case u want to store the bn for one year without been yellow, which i never have a chance to do it as my bankers keep calling day n night to pay my installment, u might able to do some treatment before storing it in poly boxes......but cannot use the same machine as tht machine can only do in water...try buy another one that with function of air.......

brother koh loh, don't scares us so much lah........can really heart attack one lah!.....

give up?? how to give up.....the bankers will dig my body up even if i die!!!......only way is to keep pumping n pumping n pumping..


Don't worry, ppls will forget about all these...all these info are for those taikoh who still want o whack the market further for their big plans......
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post Oct 12 2011, 04:52 PM

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""brother koh loh, don't scares us so much lah........can really heart attack one lah!.....""

no la..jus let u know my info ny ma...as i deal few dealers in HK tat they atlease trade 500kg to 5ton monthly n now...if wana kena heart attack should be them lo....

this shit how deep they know better lo...

by the way,,hows my horse horn sound????""Beehhhh""Beeehhhhh"" cantik tak??

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QUOTE(kohloh @ Oct 12 2011, 03:37 PM)
what u think is up to u if u think u r e sifu here but not at e market out there.as even till today china is still hantaming bird nest hardly=

http://news.cntv.cn/china/20111012/109680.shtml             
its today noon news n it say they use shit to process nest.white or red is not the matter now as consumer there surely will viod this product fr long long long enough.now is a good opertunity fr u guys to keep yr nest but before keeping it get few grm to run n nitrtie test at yr town or gov VET cheap ny n after u keep fr some time n before u sell ,run a test again to see e nitrite %ppm/kg only then u say yr nest is good fr others health or not ya.
as now over flooded white nest r reaching 200ton n cant sell so after CNY also cannot go n china keep up e good work by hantaming weekly then good luck to u guys as we estimate will be over 500ton before jun nex year...as fr yr fren tat hav shop there does he sell 2kg in 3 month time ??u know i know la..dont blur others with those kinds of info..

as now if u bring nest to trading market says its malaysia nest u sure kena ""puuiii" as frm my bos there(HK &CN) really hate u guys now.
does u guys relise malaysia monthly 15Ton go to where ah??does we really can clean n export by our self ah??not yet n now e GOV r here dy to put a leg into tis n todays papers also the horse also making noise dy"""Beehhhhhh"Beeehhhh"

u guys remember the "wang wang biscuit" case??only 1factory in china has problem the whole group of factory n world wide market die off so easly,,,till today no one buys it....itu biskut lah kawan..rm$2.50 satu bungkus ..tis is bird nest talking bout RMB$60,000 to $100,000 per KG there la n today news says its smoke by shit""wah ,geng la....

hai,,,donno how to say...tats wat info i got up to now

http://www.yanwoxing.com/index.asp
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Sorry, Kohloh,

I forget that your Big Boss is Chinaman......or should say HongKong Tai Kor. You know China market well as you have been there very often and was there for so many years, I guess. Maybe, we shall all go to China for fun and fellowship only and leave the export to the experts and concentrate our effect to produce more nests.

A thousand apologies, again......and the cause for the problem also include your BOSS. No wonder those who take the nests into China find it so difficult to make a stand in China as Malaysian are only small deers trying to match big Lions in China and HK. Malay Proverb "Tak Mati pun sudah Nasib, Lagi Mau Bising Bising" ...Sorry Boss............... better keep myself in swiftlets breeding only!!!!!! nanti mati pun tak tau machang mana mati.

Possibilities are that the present situation is purposely created to ensure that we die first for trying to meddle into their market. SO, better keep your feets close to your body or else...chop chop chop.

Above are only for your reading pleasure only.......... Good Day, Everyone
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bro koh loh, I am a human being also belum tau 100% about human being....what i know about birds then? ...

no more interest in birds, farms, n anything to do with it. thts it.

horn ke, put put ke, chit chit ke, tit tit ke, also not interested...

hai...bad habit never die....i promised myself..this is my last comment in this forum.

tq bro kohloh for at least tell us the real situation....


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""Possibilities are that the present situation is purposely created to ensure that we die first for trying to meddle into their market.""
i m not taikor as they r there.
U hav a point here tat i was doing marketing in july tat 1 whole family dealing nest in HK over 60years bos told me""kohloh,u go inside(china)to hav fun enough dy,,,dont play play with market there""as i pull bac all my dealing in CN frm March n lucky didnt kena this crisis.as i know many malaysian(1000+)hav shop in china but still ned HK dealers to run their into CN n when july when stock pile up in HK n ready to go in fr the mid autum fes,,,HK dealers say ""cannot enter""surely they hav excuse=university sport la""tis n tat la then china sizes all shop ass all no pay tax n nitrite is an excuse ny...then start e drop till today...

as their teory=""=farm yr nest""me="clean n sent "them="left the market fr us"" n do come n have some fun some time inside....


Added on October 12, 2011, 5:28 pm
QUOTE(ChanK @ Oct 12 2011, 05:18 PM)
bro koh loh, I am a human being also belum tau 100% about human being....what i know about birds then? ...

no more interest in birds, farms, n anything to do with it. thts it.

horn ke, put put ke, chit chit ke, tit tit ke, also not interested...

hai...bad habit never die....i promised myself..this is my last comment in this forum.

tq bro kohloh for at least tell us the real situation....
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dont like tat la...so fast marah marah mea???join me lo...7th nex month see see lok lok market there...listen wat shit those hong kies wanna say as i still sending them stock till today...let me intruduce u whos e Godzila of HK,who is e T Rex there n whos e big snake there...

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post Oct 12 2011, 05:32 PM

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biggrin.gif Hi Guys

Isn't this forum a democratic forum. I thought at least in here we are free to voice and share our opinion. Feedback from others might lead us to learn new things, knowledge and even learn our mistake.

I hope that the forum here is free for all to talk. Like not the other side of the world (outside) where 'We have the freedom to talk. Only after the talk that we do not have the freedom' quote RPK tongue.gif

This forum is free for all. Readers are free to take it or leave it or leave your comment.

TOMORROW WILL BE A BETTER DAY biggrin.gif

PEAVEE & CHEERS to all
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Added on October 12, 2011, 5:33 pmOopss..... I mean PEACE & CHEERS


Added on October 12, 2011, 5:39 pm
QUOTE(kohloh @ Oct 12 2011, 03:37 PM)
what u think is up to u if u think u r e sifu here but not at e market out there.as even till today china is still hantaming bird nest hardly=

http://news.cntv.cn/china/20111012/109680.shtml             


http://www.yanwoxing.com/index.asp
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Hi KL

Is it too much to ask what are the above website talking about? notworthy.gif Potatoe here.

Thank you,

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QUOTE(TinkleBell @ Oct 12 2011, 05:32 PM)
biggrin.gif Hi Guys


Added on October 12, 2011, 5:33 pmOopss..... I mean PEACE & CHEERS


Added on October 12, 2011, 5:39 pm

Hi KL

Is it too much to ask what are the above website talking about?  notworthy.gif  Potatoe here.

Thank you,
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kanasia lu,,i though me only know how to listen n say chinese but donno how to read...u more worst than me...kekeke

1st one is china today news talk bout how they sent spy wit video to surabaya to spy how they make red nest..good also ..result smoke 10days with SHIT...""its ""SHIT"" deep shit liew...

2n site...malu la to promote here ...........................................................my site..
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QUOTE(ChanK @ Oct 12 2011, 04:43 PM)
selling not selling is up to the sellers.

there basically three groups of farmers :

1) farmers tht treat this biz as hobby...they dont' have to sell unless they felt liked selling when the price is what they think is reasonable price. they don't really affected by it.

2) farmers tht depends on this biz to survive to pay bank loan....they have to sell eventhough the prices are much lower than reasonable price as bank cannot wait for u to wait for good prices to sell n then only pay the loan installment....n not surprisingly n unluckily, i am in this group lah..

3) farmers tht harvests hundreds of kilo a month....they whole house smell liked bn, and whenever they see all the bn scattering around living room, store room, and even bedrooms n until they can't even move around the house....they just feel liked want to vomit...n really fedup looking at all these bn...worst still, don't even dare to go out at night as worry breakin....so, what they can do? they have to sell loh...
btw, just in case u want to store the bn for one year without been yellow, which i never have a chance to do it as my bankers keep calling day n night to pay my installment, u might able to do some treatment before storing it in poly boxes......but cannot use the same machine as tht machine can only do in water...try buy another one that with function of air.......

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You are right about the three groups. I am in the group 1. I assumed you are in group 2? since you say u need to pay the loan installment?

Try to have a vacation or something. Dont be too stressed. Like steve jobs, he is genius but he cant live long. But of course he changed the world too. Just to give some example about life balance.

So kohloh, what do you think the future of this industry? K.O or O.K?

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[quote=TinkleBell,Oct 12 2011, 05:32 PM]
biggrin.gif Hi Guys

Isn't this forum a democratic forum. I thought at least in here we are free to voice and share our opinion. Feedback from others might lead us to learn new things, knowledge and even learn our mistake.

I hope that the forum here is free for all to talk. Like not the other side of the world (outside) where 'We have the freedom to talk. Only after the talk that we do not have the freedom' quote RPK tongue.gif

This forum is free for all. Readers are free to take it or leave it or leave your comment.

TOMORROW WILL BE A BETTER DAY biggrin.gif

PEAVEE & CHEERS to all
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Added on October 12, 2011, 5:33 pmOopss..... I mean PEACE & CHEERS

Hey, this forum is for all to share on swiftlets matter so no problem at all. No problem and be Happy. We have our differences and we argue but we stop at there. After the postings, we will meet and have our coffee talk, right KLoh?

KL is a friend but sometime really do hard boxing with his unkind words and I believe and all here believe that in this forum is free for all to talk. My last posting was as I said for reading pleasure only.

Thanks Seeseng for starting this wonderful forum to share.

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Who can direct me to where I can find out more about EBN cleaning machines.

Thank you in advance.
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QUOTE(ChanK @ Oct 12 2011, 05:18 PM)
bro koh loh, I am a human being also belum tau 100% about human being....what i know about birds then? ...

no more interest in birds, farms, n anything to do with it. thts it.

horn ke, put put ke, chit chit ke, tit tit ke, also not interested...

hai...bad habit never die....i promised myself..this is my last comment in this forum.

tq bro kohloh for at least tell us the real situation....
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Dont like tat bro :cry cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
still need u to company me to HK to met those King Kongs,,Godzilas n so so.....
stil ned u to carry me back when drunk frm CP Ktv....
stil ned u to support me at hantaming here .......
dont left me alone harding here......... cry.gif as i m almost bue tahan lieu facing this crisis.....

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QUOTE(kohloh @ Oct 12 2011, 05:45 PM)
kanasia lu,,i though me only know how to listen n say chinese but donno how to read...u more worst than me...kekeke

1st one is china today news talk bout how they sent spy wit video to surabaya to spy how they make red nest..good also ..result smoke 10days with SHIT...""its ""SHIT"" deep shit liew...

2n site...malu la to promote here ...........................................................my site..
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Hi KL

Thanked you for the above information. The Indon used swiftlet's shit to smoke the birdnest? That is yukky man doh.gif
So after smoking with the shit, the color will be dark red color. OMG doh.gif

GOD is so thoughful to bless us with such nutritious food, yet human always want to challenge GOD doh.gif

For the 2nd site, do you have english version?

thank you.


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QUOTE(kohloh @ Oct 12 2011, 08:23 PM)
Dont like tat bro  :cry cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif 
still need u to company me to HK to met those King Kongs,,Godzilas n so so.....
stil ned u to carry me back when drunk frm CP Ktv....
stil ned u to support me at hantaming here .......
dont left me alone harding here......... cry.gif as i m almost bue tahan lieu facing this crisis.....
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hi KL

For the HK dialogue, is it open to public? If I happen to be in HK, I would like to attend too.

Thank you for the info.

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Who can direct me to where I can find out more about EBN cleaning machines.

Thank you in advance.
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The one to reduce nitrites to 0 in EBN? A top secret weapon to be revealed? hmm.gif
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So, the picture is clear as to whom is behind all these RED nests and why we, Malaysian nests are single out to be punished. We, Malaysian and Malaysian nests are not involved at all. That's I don't know and the Fed. Association should clarified with the Chinese Authorities on the matter and if possible keep us informed.

Shits was good as we know for attracting swiftlets but now, we know it also can produce RED nests.............never too old to learn!!!!!! All these while, I though that they only spray it on to the unharvested nests but now smoking the nests with S***, that's news.

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