no one here really comparing ML to Perrelet (really starts in 1993 and got acquire by Festina in 2004).
moreover for those that get it grey are getting alot of money for their watch. mod ETA 2892 for ~US$1k. I think its not right to say they fabricated a history and heritage, according to wiki it did state Festina acquire the factory that claims to have been in continuous production since the late eighteenth century. pretty sure that is hard to trace, I have to say ya weak link. Wants a history and rich heritage no the brand of choice.

rich history/heritage do not always translate into top quality watches. with ML I only like their masterpiece collection.
I would put the money on Stowa.

anyway: many young brands are making it these days
eg
Roger Dubuis 1995.
Frederique constant 1992.

Gevril maybe another brand like Perrelet, but unlike Perrelet watches isn't that great.

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Added on December 11, 2010, 12:36 pmGerman-asia watch? u are aware its chinese movement. PTS resources Hangzhou to be exact.

according to WUS U could have got a similar movement on ebay for ~US$100!
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f72/theorema-...ton-366176.html

This post has been edited by patryn33: Dec 11 2010, 12:38 PM

Erm...Thank a lots.
I love the designs but i dunno about the quality of the watch>.<
Chinese movement mean made in china??
And hows the quality of the watch is it nice??
Sorry for the noob question...

ya make in china, Hangzhou.

never own 1, don't know. read these links.
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f72/hangzhou-...tml#post1448959
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f72/theorema-...ton-351668.html
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f72/theorema-...ton-351668.html

U may wanna try Tao International much cheaper also same movement iirc
http://store.taowatch.us/

U may like something cool
eg
http://store.taowatch.us/TAO-060SD.aspx


This post has been edited by patryn33: Dec 11 2010, 12:55 PM

Does anyone know what is the pricing like for these 2 watches in Malaysia?

JLC Master Control
JLC Master Memovox

Thanks.

Man List James Bond Rolex for $9.95 and Sold for $66,100
$9.95 James Bond Rolex Sold for $66,100 on Ebay

1 up for Rolex and 2 up for Submariner

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This post has been edited by ck77: Dec 11 2010, 07:08 PM

search online and convert the RP. after 30% it will be a good est.

is that a true turbillon? or just a type of open heart/skeleton?

edit: there are models claim to be turbillon but is actually an open heart..


This post has been edited by highwind85: Dec 12 2010, 12:18 AM

at under us$100, cannot expect tourbillon. its just a rotating escapement.

haha..that's what i thought..but cool to have 1 of these cheap 1 too...

Thats really cool and thanks for your help man~
They have good feedback on the theorema watch ^^
Erm...do you think in terms of quality tao will better than theorema??

any1 knows where can i find nixon watches retailer?

I've seen them sold at Tang's.

Any owner of Ball watches here? Thinking to get the TrainMaster series with leather strap? Like the auto luminor function.

u mean u like the lume of tritium.
there is nothing auto about it, read around.

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Added on December 12, 2010, 9:15 pmErm, no idea. use the links to search again.
same movement alot cheaper.

This post has been edited by patryn33: Dec 12 2010, 09:15 PM

i wasn't comparing the brands directly, just howthe new brands position themselves, ML don't try to pretend to have a history and heritage, whereas Perrelet does. as for the wiki about the factory.. well, put it this way, Mr.Perrelet never really assembled and sold any watches under the "Perrelet" name. thats fabrication to me. each to their own.

yes, quality have absolutely nothing to do with history/heritage. that i agree. for me, i think even the ML Pontos range is very solid.. the masterpiece collection.. i don't dig designs. subjective matter again.

stowa, i love the antea..now that's real heritage..

Patryn: Thanks for the clarification. Seem like their marketing strategy make me confuse about the lume.

Anyway, is it worth to spend 3-4k for Ball watches?

if u enjoy it why not!
I like Ball's lume but I don't like the price pt. All the marketing I think a new ball is ~4K range. low 3K not easy to find. I end spending it on a CW C600.
http://www.christopherward.co.uk/men/view-all-4/c600ipk.html

design wise, there are other mechanical watches with tritium
- Frederique constant clear vision is a dress watch using similar tech
http://www.frederique-constant.com/en/watch_FC-303B6B6.htm


if not for the lume. for 4K budget can get some really nice watches (online and prices is less 16% don't have to pay tax). brands like Guinand even let U customize it.
eg
http://www.genius1953.de/en/index10.html
http://guinand-watch.com/index.php?option=...d=63&Itemid=181

by the watch whch trainmaster U thinking of? streamliner?
http://www.ballwatch.com/index.php?option=com_collections

This post has been edited by patryn33: Dec 12 2010, 10:59 PM

greetings! I happen to stumble upon this thread by accident and couldn't resist not posting. Firstly, thanks for the many introductions to CW esp with discount currently ongoing.

Before i actually take the plunge and make an order, i would like to find out if any of you have purchased the steel bracelet? Is it possible to do the resizing at a local watch shop instead of paying the £10.00? Can the leather strap be adjusted to fit a wrist as small as 6 inches?

Yup, looking into Ball Trainmaster Streamliner. Most of the watches sold in Malaysia is overprice with all the marketing gimmick & price control. Any recommendation for 4k budget if i don't need the lume function? Prefer leather strap as i never own leather strap.

Patryn: The CW watch that u recommend look nice. Might plan to get it. Did u owned one?

hey guys,

wanna ask..

is the Seiko SGED28 Coutura Quartz worth buying?

link to product: http://www.seikousa.com/products/coutura/quartz/sged28.html