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post Nov 22 2010, 04:54 AM

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Not my watch, but it's on my puny 6 inch wrist. The Mido Baroncelli is 38mm without crown.

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I was told the prices of Mido will increase in Jan 2011, at least 5%. It's the Swiss watch mafia game (e.g. price racketeering) aint it.

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The fit and finish is excellent. It is really good value for money, considering the material they put into making this. An elabore grade 2824-2! Sapphire crystal on both sides, with AR!

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and I ain't even a fan of gold finished watches...

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post Nov 22 2010, 05:32 PM

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patryn: I thought all Mido watches are either elabore or chronometer?


edit: added more info

I am a bit confused. Their catalog says elabore, adjusted 3 positions, but uses incabloc for anti shock, and not lower grade etachoc.

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post Nov 22 2010, 10:51 PM

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patryn, thanks. Mido chronographs with all those round subdials with lots of little hands that move and stuff seem to be priced lower than other brands that uses the same grade of things inside.
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post Nov 23 2010, 07:44 PM

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A Fossil watch bought in March has already rusted in less than 8 months. It is marked stainless steel, mind. 5atm water resistance some more, and I have never even swam with it!

Really defines what a fashion watch really is.

At the same time, an Adidas watch that belongs to my wife also has a rusted case back, after less than 2 months of usage (for yoga!). It is of course, manufactured by the Fossil group.

Examples of the rust on the Fossil watch:

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"This warranty does not cover
-Any defects in materials and workmanship of battery, case, crystal, strap or bracelet
-Damage resulting from improper handling, lack of care, accidents or normal wear and tear
-Water damage unless marked water-resistant."

The warranty sounds more like the sort of indemnity that says 'once you have given us your money, you can piss off'.

Beware. Other brands made by Fossil: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fossil,_Inc.#...esigned_Watches

(I must say I thought that Guess was made by them also).

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post Nov 23 2010, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Nov 23 2010, 10:19 PM)

pay peanuts get peanuts!
50m does not mean U can swim. 100M then can swim.
50m is like washing hands.
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Duh! Of course I know that!
That's what I mean... it rusted without ever having been near water!

It was a present from my wife, who does not know any better when it comes to watches...
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post Nov 23 2010, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Nov 23 2010, 10:56 PM)
what to Duh? Yoya no sweat? sweat is water too with SALT that more corrosive that regular water from tap.
So you are saying, having corrosion in less than a year is reasonable for stainless steel watches, albeit from fashion brands?

Even if I hardly use this particular one? smile.gif Ok I need to chill. Just shocked that stainless steel from this manufacturer can rust while the watches that I wear daily for rough and tumble work do not.
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post Nov 27 2010, 03:33 PM

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I think the current HK Seagull '1963 reissue' are not authorized versions.

The first true chinese airforce chronograph was released 1965. Seagull currently offers a limited edition reissue.

http://www.usseagull.com/EnProductShow.asp?ClassID=81&ID=107


Someone already has one here:

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f72/tianjin-s...ics-462781.html

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The original from the 60s?:

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I like that logo. Did it inspire Starfleet's?
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post Nov 27 2010, 06:04 PM

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A very thorough review of the Visodate.

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f67/tissot-vi...ost3390538.html

(Like some of you, this is the first Tissot that caught my eye... but the case back is snap on!)
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post Nov 29 2010, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(jonx03 @ Nov 29 2010, 01:10 PM)
Sorry for my complicated enquire. I need a Analog watch or chronograph watch, and strap. without alarm also can. Example like seiko SNN217. Except that model have others more nicely?

thank you for your concern.
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Try the Casio Edifice watches.

Examples:

http://edifice.casio.com/

http://thewatchblogger.blogspot.com/2009/0...el-edition.html


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post Nov 30 2010, 02:05 AM

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For divers, if you really like to be different from the rest of the flock, have a look at Vostok Amphibia.
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post Nov 30 2010, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Nov 30 2010, 06:59 AM)
I think these ones do not have actual good water resistance, ironically.


Added on November 30, 2010, 5:02 pmOh I am mistaken. Just clicked on those links.

There are other 'diver' watches that look like this, big and brutal, but with poor water resistance.

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post Nov 30 2010, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(ck77 @ Nov 30 2010, 05:21 PM)
For me, diver should have 2 basic criteria; screw-in crown and screw-in caseback.
Those fashion watch diver usually don't hold good WR.
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Agreed.

But, perhaps interestingly, those two big ass ancient Russian divers claim to have 700m resistance for an hour.

The Vostok Amphibias that I mentioned earlier, do have screwed down crowns and screwed in case back. I wonder if the 200m resistance is for real in the new watches, as this watch design was used by the Russian military in the 60s to the 70s.

Actually the toughest watches out there whether in the sky or under the sea are G-Shocks. Uglier than sin though.



maxilias: "any casio g-shock collectors here?"

I am not a collector but I do have a Riseman and a new Jason in black. The Riseman is a fantastic watch for work.


Added on November 30, 2010, 11:00 pm
QUOTE(lanatir @ Nov 30 2010, 05:27 PM)
although not a fan of Azimuth, i really like the bad ass look of the Sea Hum GMT

http://oceanictime.blogspot.com/2010/05/az...um-gmt-3tz.html
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Haha, real sense of humour the Singaporeans... 'Sea Hum GMT'! smile.gif

What next, Lala case?

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post Dec 2 2010, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Dec 2 2010, 05:20 PM)
any1 can give opinion on Fossil AM4257? I feel the description in the website quite insufficient

sad to hear that ME1066 of Fossil has discontinued..I quite like the watch design
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It actually looks smart doesn't it?

I'll be careful with current Fossil watches due to their poor quality control... in my home there are two made by the Fossil company and both watches' stainless steel parts rusted. One in less than 2 months, and another in less than 8 months.

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post Dec 3 2010, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Dec 3 2010, 12:39 AM)
I thought end of the yr, LVMH at KL have same sales on TAG? usually ~50%
anyway LVMH USA is running sales now. if U have seen my post.


Added on December 3, 2010, 12:40 am

Epos little marketing, build quality better than Tissot. Maybe close to ML esp for mechanical they are nicely decorated with blue screws


Added on December 3, 2010, 12:45 am

looking for a PVD diver. pay peanuts get peanuts.
U wouldn't find good PVD for the price u are paying.
Fossils watches are made in the far east iirc.

I thought U looking for tritium watches?
perhaps don't buy, keep saving and get a better watch
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Hi Patryn. I think Fossil watches are dirt cheap where you are, but in Malaysia they cost about the same as most Casio G-shocks and lower end Seiko watches, on average (price for price the Japenese are superior in build quality).

Peanuts to you but a lot of money for non watch collectors. Not everyone has a few thousand bucks to blow (or even if they have, they may not be willing to blow it) on what a lot of people might see as wrist jewellery, a fashion statement.
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post Dec 8 2010, 01:18 PM

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The Swiss rail watch (basic model white dial exactly like the station clocks) has default daily watch for the past few years. With clarity like that lume is not neccessary at night.

Too bad it's merely water resistant and quartz!

(Yes I know there's an auto but I don't like the execution).
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post Dec 12 2010, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(apizzoable @ Dec 12 2010, 01:23 PM)
any1 knows where can i find nixon watches retailer?
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I've seen them sold at Tang's.
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post Dec 20 2010, 03:45 AM

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Vostok Amphibia 'Scuba Dude in Blue'.
31 jewels automatic.

Russian style diver with water resistance up to 200m. Fully stainless steel watch case and back.

The strange (and some might call ugly) bezel turns bi directionally, with no clicks! Must be some kind of Russian thinking there to mark time.

Quite shock resistant too- just do a search on youtube for Vostok factory where at the end of the clip a rather big car is shown to roll over the watch twice. It kept running like normal.

But being a cheap tough bugger, it has its problems.

First of all, the bracelet is made of thinly folded steel sheets, yes thinner than what you will find on a cheap Casio Edifice, which puts it in the 'that's rubbish!' category. I hope that it is at least a good grade stainless.

And most annoyingly, the hour markers are imprecisely printed, with bits of debris on the dial. This can be rectified if you are good with your hands.

Unregulated, the watch gains about a minute per day. Again, can be rectified by adjusting the balance wheel (or have it sent to a watchmaker).

Overall, this reminds me of my previous experiences with eastern bloc products, like the Zorki 4 rangefinder and the Kiev88cm medium format camera with Soviet era quirkiness. The difference here is I feel that I can actually rely on the Amphibia.

The price? Including shipping, it is RM 260 and (not or) less depending on the various Russian watch dealers online. I bought mine from Zenitar on ebay.


PS: I have a puny 6 inch wrist. The watch measures 45mm height, 40.5mm across, and 22mm between the lugs.

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post Dec 20 2010, 12:57 PM

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patrynn33: About the bi-directional bezel...That is why I said strange. The Russians simply do things their way. The Amphibia design has been, in variations, around since the 60s, first used by the military.



mydelsol: No never heard of Rostov. A quick search on google returned nothing either. Maybe it looks like Rostov, but the cyrillic letterings are really saying something else.

Check out www.russianwatchguide.com www.smirs.com www.russian-wathces.info www.rugift.com etc



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post Dec 20 2010, 01:35 PM

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Vostro? Sounds like a Dell.

No, google reveals nothing again if it's a watch.


Added on December 20, 2010, 2:58 pm
QUOTE(Dominus91 @ Dec 19 2010, 10:35 PM)
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how about this Bonia Teroso?
RM1199 but after 20% discount the price is only around RM9xx.
Saw it at Tip Top Time last week. I was seduced by its first look beauty. (seriously the design look alike the honour watch brand- B&R)
plan to buy at Hong Kong since buying watch there is free-duty. But is this worth to buy?
I ask sale girl for the origin of Bonia watch. She states that the design is performed in Paris while the production is in Japan.
One year international warranty.
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Bonia is a local brand, with the design office in Singapore. The designers are mostly forced to make derivative copies of famous designs whether it's bags or clothes. And now it looks like they are copying watches also.


Added on December 20, 2010, 3:55 pmI just opened up the Vostok Amphibia to adjust the balance. The lever is 'looser' than I am used to.

The caseback is a 2 piece. The screw in ring actually holds the cover really tight in. I like this.
The gasket, which looks like rubber, is thick. Where they cut cost is the movement holder, which is some sort of plastic. Or could it be a shock resistance feature? Hehe. Well it is a USD60 watch.

In this picture you can also see the back of crap folded sheet metal bracelet.

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post Dec 20 2010, 06:48 PM

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Looks like Vostok Europe.

http://www.smirs.com/product_info.php?products_id=2805

If you dont mind a bit of defect ('caused by shipping') you can buy them at clearance prices here http://www.russia2all.com/vostok-europe-ru...2432011111.html

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