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DeAct
post Mar 19 2018, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Mar 18 2018, 04:21 PM)
You write lots of words. Your thoughts are jumbled. Not sure whether these are facts.
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I see no wrong with what he typed. Looks legit.

QUOTE(Johnnykidz @ Mar 19 2018, 08:42 AM)
It sounded so scientific. But still get no ideas how it work because no example.
What result to you achieve for yourself?
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QUOTE(New Klang @ Mar 19 2018, 10:17 AM)
The thread is about getting 6 packs. Calories in < out.
It is the accounting of calories and marcos, so eating clean makes it easier while you may have difficulty estimating the amount for junk food.
I am not sure what is the protip at the end.
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Anyone has to start somewhere when it comes to calories counting. Start with 'clean food' is easier because the math is simpler. But we live in Malaysia. Unless you want to be a tupperware man the rest of your life, learn and eyeball the food content. I do that now.

Protip is don't ask how to get toned. WTH is toned? Tone up. WTH is tone up.
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post Mar 22 2018, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(DeAct @ Mar 19 2018, 09:44 AM)
It doesn’t have to be, stickies in this forum provides great information to get you started.

You can start by calculating your BMR and TDEE on iifym.com. The results will be sent to your email. Come back here with the results, I’m sure other members could help you out from there.

Check my logs for progress. I’ve made a fair amount of strength gains doing SL5x5. Wait for my update photo on S40.
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Result = 1989 calories
Protein 150
Carb 195
Fat 68

What next?
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post Mar 22 2018, 11:52 PM

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post Mar 22 2018, 11:57 PM

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post Mar 23 2018, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(DeAct @ Mar 22 2018, 11:52 PM)
I’m going to assume that’s your TDEE.

Protein 150g =\= 150g of any meat. 100g of chicken is 30g of protein. For your case it’s 500g of chicken. Learn to check the nutrition and calculate calories of what you’re eating. Other meats usually have less than 30g of protein per 100g. You can still eat other protein sources. Btw, the 500g of chicken is excluding bones and skin. You don’t have to stick to chicken breast. Other cuts are fine too. Chicken breast just happens to be the leanest.

100g chicken=165kcal.
500g chicken=825kcal.
1989-825=1164kcal remaining.

I’d say that 68g fats is approx 4tsbs(15ml/tsbs). Olive oil is about 120kcal/tbsp.
4x120kcals=480kcal
1164-480=684kcal remaining.

Veges and fruits are usually low in calories; usually very low. 100g of rice/barley/grains is about 350kcal/100g. Go figure the amount you have to eat.

Don’t undereat fibre and drink lotsa water since you’re eating quite a lot of protein.

All the ingredients that I mentioned are weight of the ingredients Raw. The exact way to manage your macros to the dot isn’t using the method ^. However, ^ will get you in the ball park and it does work for me.

You don’t have cook as well. The alternative is you log your meals using MyFitnessPal. Bring a small scale and weigh your meals. Or you can learn to guess the calories of a meal just by looking. If you’re not experienced, I don’t encourage the last method at all.

Assuming you want abs, you’d have to lower your body fat %. The way to do that is to eat between your BMR and TDEE. What I’d do is for the first few weeks is I’d eat the same meals to know the exact amount I have to eat. You can calculate your calories to the dot but still lose/gain weight when you overeat and undereat respectively. The link below explains this well.

https://youtu.be/4emMWJwFX9k
For exercise, if I had to start anew, I’d do Phrak’s GSLP. It seems more balanced compared to what I did(SL5x5).

Other more experienced members can advice you on this.
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Thanks for your advice.

The result for the above is computed when it is asked me to input my target weight to be achieved.
My details

Height 180cm
Weight 82 kg

I am tall and slim. The issue is my tummy which when I wear cloth and it showed like I m 3 month pregnant.
I usually eat outside and seldom cook.

I tried to control my diet by taking subway slice chicken! And drink fruit juice for lunch.
Sometimes I skipped lunch.
After trying 3 weeks and seems tummy belly still remain there but no improvement.

How to achieve to have the flat tummy in 1-2 months?

The pro build the shape of slim and lean body shape with some abs.

Do I have to join gym to achieve the result? What food diet should I take to achieve the result?
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post Mar 23 2018, 11:24 AM

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If you want shortcut with instant result. Best way is to get surgery. Fat layer removal.

Otherwise just train more, eat less and it will take few months or probably few years.

Not as easy as calorie in vs calorie out. Macros matters too. Carb vs Protein vs Fat.

If you follow high carb diet and light activity then all the unused fuel will go to fat as well.

My weight goes down but tummy getting bigger. So, i gotta limit my carb on non-workout day.

I don't count calorie, macro or avoid junk foods. If you're like me, you will be forever pregnant unless you start changing your lifestyle & diet.
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post Mar 23 2018, 06:36 PM

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after 3 weeks? and u expecting magic is it?
try 3 months.
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post Mar 24 2018, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(DeAct @ Mar 23 2018, 04:38 PM)
Post a photo of your body here if you don’t mind. Others will be able to estimate your bf%. I don’t want to rain on your parade but most likely you’ll need more than 2 months to get the body you want.

Post a photo of your ideal as well.
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Bf?

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post Mar 24 2018, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 23 2018, 06:36 PM)
after 3 weeks? and u expecting magic is it?
try 3 months.
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Hahhaha.. noob mah
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QUOTE(Johnnykidz @ Mar 24 2018, 10:41 AM)
Bf?
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body fat percentage.
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post Mar 24 2018, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(DeAct @ Mar 23 2018, 04:38 PM)
Post a photo of your body here if you don’t mind. Others will be able to estimate your bf%. I don’t want to rain on your parade but most likely you’ll need more than 2 months to get the body you want.

Post a photo of your ideal as well.
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I just want to achieve this basic slim and lean body.
Based on your experience, what the timeline if you will target to achieve that body shape?


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post Mar 24 2018, 01:16 PM

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post Mar 26 2018, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(Johnnykidz @ Mar 24 2018, 11:05 AM)
I just want to achieve this basic slim and  lean body.
Based on your experience, what the timeline if you will target to achieve that body shape?
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That's your target? Go vegan. No problem.
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post Mar 26 2018, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Mar 26 2018, 12:28 AM)
That's your target? Go vegan. No problem.
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LOL
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post Mar 27 2018, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Mar 26 2018, 12:28 AM)
That's your target? Go vegan. No problem.
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On semi vegan diet already.
Try out 1 month and see the progress development
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post Mar 27 2018, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(Johnnykidz @ Mar 27 2018, 08:12 AM)
On semi vegan diet already.
Try out 1 month and see the progress development
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Oh Lord. I'm kidding. You don't even have ANY decent amount of muscle mass. You go even semi vegan and you'll look more like shit. That's the bare honest truth.
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post Mar 27 2018, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(Johnnykidz @ Mar 24 2018, 11:05 AM)
I just want to achieve this basic slim and  lean body.
Based on your experience, what the timeline if you will target to achieve that body shape?
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hm.. doesn't look 3 months pregnant to me at least...

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