Eating clean is not necessary as long as you fit your macros requirement. At least thats what I do and it happened for me.

If you are in caloric deficit, everything is within your caloric deficit level. Your macros make up of protein, carbs and fats. If it fits your macros, I do not see why you can't eat KFC everyday to loose fats. We are strictly talking about fat loss here. Your health complication you look into it yourself.

You have answered your own doubts. You do cannot control. If you are in deficit, regardless of what you eat, you loose. Need me to look for the link of the prof eating poptarts everyday to loose fats?

6%? By now you should know how 'accurate' these machines are.

Set up your TDEE, macros. Eat according to that and you will have lesser chance to go wrong.

If you are on a proper cut...given that you have set up a correct TDEE with right macros for your body, tracking it correctly, there is no way that you don't see visible abs after a certain amount of time. But like I said, if u set things up correctly, you will make.less mistake. Learn to listen to your body. What it needs and what it does not. Some reacts better with high protein high fats...some with high high carbs...not body is born a like.

Gotto eat those banana leaf rice today man. No time to eat them banana leaf rice this week.

Cz you don't understand that the fried chicken is fat and protein, rice is carbs and protein, curry is with oil is fat. So long that you knows what went into the food which went into your body, no one should deprive oneself from any type of food. In fact I am going to have my portion of banana leaf rice tonight.

Live from Kanna. Inb4 leher patah.



This post has been edited by lingleeyen: Sep 14 2017, 09:25 PM

Thats the portion I can eat. I have the figures to keep. Being fat type do not hv the luxury of eating all they want n still stay...the same? That 2 bowl of rice will keep me happy till the nx day. Why force feed when I dont need that much?

This post has been edited by lingleeyen: Sep 14 2017, 09:44 PM

I am fat type. I started out fat at 90kg. At 165cm.

This post has been edited by lingleeyen: Sep 14 2017, 09:52 PM

Great. And you think you know more than me in my own history from age 0 to now. Sigh.

Was or is?

I was all the way over weight from kid till secondary 3. At secondary 3 onward I don't get to eat much and I have vigorous excercise. I was OK in that 3 years. Weight was 60 or so. In college I balloon up to 70 with approximately 2000kcal (if you ask me to calculate and recall what I normally eat). The last 3 months of college I was in UK. In order to save money I had approximately 800kcal a day, and I walk 3km one way to uni. When I got back, I was 56kg. I loose most probably 14kg in that 3 months. After I got back that weight of 56kg stayed for 3 months. After that it goes up approximately 1kg every 1.5 months. I have no exercise, I have no control over the food that I eat. But hey, I am eating more now than any time before this. I am definitely not ectomorph.

Too much too fast. And I think you also failed to understand that different people have different body, different metabolisme, different everything all together. To start, start understanding yours. Not mine.

This post has been edited by lingleeyen: Sep 15 2017, 11:30 AM

1st check if you are really eating that deficit. Did you calculate wrongly. Sauces etc are those small stuff that adds up. How much calorie are you eating now at what weight and lean muscle mass %?

Though I do not recommend going to 1500kcal a day, but if you have no choice no other way, do it till the loss go stagnant again. Eat at maintenance for a week or 2 after that then go on a cut again. You will be surprised by what you can get by eating more.

Yes. Going too low is not a smart way. I was at 1400kcal for a year. Stagnant for at least 6 months? And yet I was too afraid to eat more because by logic eating more makes you go fat again right? I gave up at one point. I said fuck it, lets eat more to lift more, at least I can brag about the weight I move. So I go do that gradual increase to be on the path of eating at maintenance. So I increased from 1400kcal to 1600kcal. The first week, the scale moved. I am starting to loose fats again, fast. After a month, I increased to 1800. It goes on to loose even more. So yeah. I ate at 1400kcal not loosing. I eat at 1800 I loose more in 3 months than that total 1 year at 1400.

This post has been edited by lingleeyen: Sep 21 2017, 10:39 AM

I did not die and I am still here making progress. One has to learn, and I learned it the hard way. One has to experience and I stumbled on that by accident. One has to survive to tell tales and here I am telling tales that eating more makes you loose more. If you have never tried something, everything one said is just paper talk. Everyone has to learn from somewhere somehow somewhat. Some got enlightened earlier, some much later. The important is that you persist enough for the experience to come.

My TDEE at the beginning was only 2100kcal with 5 days of training. I was 70kg, at 165cm if you want to know.

1400. Not 1600 at the lowest. I can't afford to do cardio. I don't have time.