yea torres cant leave cuz i already bought the shirt lol

I beg to differ.
I find he's doing quite ok recently.
I thought "Stevie is back!!" when we hammered 4-0 against Burnley.
I missed long range thunderous strike of Stevie G.

Double that, T_T, scare now

i think there's is an uneasiness between them...it may not affect Rafa that much but i think it's affecting Gerrard...

can we swap Berbatov + cash = Torres?

remember the time when the value of Gerrard was much higher and Chelsea offered something big on table...? there was a considerable debate....about if we should take Chelsea's millions and use it to build the team. Even then, not the entire Anfield and supporters world wide wanted him to stay...Even then his attitude and performances were not to everyone's liking...

in retrospect, i am thankful he stayed. Because if he left, i doubt the millions will not be spent on players and rebuilding but for the benefits of the Yanks

the best 30m tottenham ever made ... btw, asking a hardcore liverpool supporter to play for man yoo is a no no

as for the poll ... i guess the right answer is 'all of above'

there were times this season when i really hope that rafa drop gerrard from starting lineup juz to make him wake up from his slumber..but what to do,rafa trust gerrard 1000% even if gerrard was in poor form..he's a captain anyway

perhaps all those years of lifting up liverpool on his own has taken the toll on his performance, and gerrard is no longer the midfield engine he used to a few seasons back.

back then we see gerrard rarely putting a foot wrong, let alone getting wrestled out of possession and seriously, i can't recall seeing incidents like that until this season. if he loses possession you'll find him charging at the ball like a madman and earned himself a fair few reds then. this season, whenever he made a poor pass or the ball got nicked off his feet, he just stood there in disbelief and when he chased, it was done halfheartedly.

i'm not saying that gerrard has lost his passion, but maybe he is no longer at an age where you can make bursting runs and dribble past a few players in the middle of the pitch.

gerrard in a poor season is still a better than many midfielders in the league. it's his high standard of performance in the previous seasons that made him look so drastically bad this term, and with the rest of the team playing averagely, being the talisman he naturally came under the spotlight.

personally thinking, if we take money out of the equation, i think almost every department would require some improvement. put the squad into another club and perhaps only reina, torres and gerrard would make it into the first 11.

seriously do you guys want Martin O Neil , Roy Hodgson as the next man to lead LFC?

I really cant see why Jose will coming here and the most suitable person probably our legend Kenny,but that was big risk, fail to do well in his 1st season will srap up his reputation as legend here

i dont care who will be our next manager as long as they win the EPL for Liverpool and keep our tradition back on track....

yea, so do you think which manager can bring back the title?

guus hiddink might be an ideal manager for liverpool. it's just my opinion...

our team its not so perfect....
if new manager come in, i dont think he can bring BPL to our club in his 1st season...
coz he need tobuy new player n so on....

just my opinion....

I suspected so as well, remember the body language after Torres being subbed when Liv is chasing the game on Birmingham match when the scoreline is 1-1 time (if not mistaken).

i agree, but we are of a difference situation this time around. We need to finance the debt (bank of scotland (RBS) has deffered once or twice!? no? ), we haven't a new stadium in sight to attract more mullah (maybe not now but had the stadium being built then, it should been completed BY 2013 (if i'm not mistaken)

We need to bite the bullet.

Gerrard IS liverpool, he has be the orchestra of the team in majority of the liverpool play. NO one was able to consistently help him to shoulder that responsibly. Alonso did last season & in parts in his first season. Rafa wanted an englishman (barry) but we all know how dishonourable barry was when he gave his word of joining us following season (this season) after completing his gratitude to villa but man city parachuted gold into his eyes.

To SAVE liverpool, gerrard may have to sacrifice himself. I dont like it. I dont think the yanks will dip into their own pockets to finance the debt, they never did & I highly doubt they will feel remourseful & build a conscience to do a right thing. the little kitty we have will buy some players (grade C) but at most not quality to carry the team. With gerrards sale, now at least the pot could attract grade B players. dont talk about grade A as we never ever bought nor attract those except torres. (gerrard being home grown & all). tavez? David Villa? sorry happens only in fifa fantasy game but in reality, dream on.

both tavez, David Villa (Valencia)> 35 million pound each.

This post has been edited by koolspyda: May 4 2010, 02:20 PM

Players and manager must have good communication and understanding.

If the players don't understand what the manager trying to do with the tactic, intention etc (even whom being subbed and what position), then players morale can get affected.
Just like if you are playing well, and still full of energetic, suddenly manager subbed you and drop you next game, surely you will feel dejected.
At least player must understand why, it is due to tactic wise? save for next game? etc.

This kind of message, sometimes don't need to be spoken out, but manager can send the message in various way.
Just like you are chasing the game, you take out a DM and put a AM, players don't need to be told also roughly know what the manager trying to deliver the intention/message.

since no player should be bigger than the club, gerrad=liverpool is invalid...

we rely too much on certain players, enough already

given choice, i would love gerrard to remain

but if there is an offer of around 40m for him, why not consider selling him to (i) once and for all make everyone feel he is as important/significant on the pitch and (ii) money to spend on a younger world class player?

then again i see the situation as rafa lost the plot, hence players like gerrard, who has such high expectations on himself and the club, can have a dip in form, lost of desire etc etc

a new manager, new owners should be a great solution to renwe hope and passion. we got a new sponsor already isnt it?

yes, now if only the script were as follows

out = calsberg, rafa, gerrard = no more heartache to forumers here

In= stan chart, roy hodson, villa, alves, Zamora, stephen kelly (fulham players link cause follow manager mah). but haha in reality i only see 2 players in, not necessarily the ones i added & certainly not the italic ones.

sadly, I dont see any other quality manager who would risk to join a turbulent liverpool.

This post has been edited by koolspyda: May 4 2010, 02:45 PM

If Rafa leaves, I dun see any top class manager who can bring liverpool forward next season. Roy hodgson? He is good but I doubt he can handle a world class club, not yet, but the magical part of football is its' unpredictabilty.. who knows he might bring us champion next year? how bout Mourinho? No doubt, he is good but I dun think he will come and manage a financially-constraint club like Liverpool. but then again, if Rafa stays, we also are unsure whether he is able to bring us any further compare to where we are now(remember last season when we got 2nd place, we are expecting to challenge for champion and look at where we are now). There are chances that we might still be able to finish in top 4. but champion? To be honest, its really unpredictable(the unpredictablilty comes in again =P).

1st thing 1st is that the yanks must be out and the new owner is able to provide blood injection to the club for manager to bring in fresh and capable legs. Im not hoping for the new owner to be as rich as ManCity of course. but at least if the new owner comes in and from there, we are able to buy player worth 20-30mio, I think thats more then enough already(rather then looking at players worth 1-2mio. and expecting them to bring us trophies, for me its abit ridiculous).

Just my opinion anyway.