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wei
post Jul 29 2011, 12:38 PM

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You can't blame them. Your board might ship with other claim parts/ product that very likely to get held up by customs. Unless Apple ship your board separately.
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post Jul 29 2011, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(imdifferent @ Jul 29 2011, 11:49 AM)
Better buy from Apple Online Store, you can get cheaper pricing with edu price and also, support is really better.

If you complain bad enough, they can 1 to 1 replacement with you.

My friends case, he bought a MBP 15" 2010 model last year with snow leo. There was a minor 'flicker' when shutting down. He noticed it and was not satisfied as he bought the model at 5k. He reformatted the unit just to make sure it wasn't a software glitch. After confirming it's not software, we looked for the service centre.

We went to Machines to service, everything was so professional, technician was out on leave. Have to wait for him to come back. So my friend waited patiently. When he received a call from Machines. The technician said there is nothing wrong with the unit. 

After taking the unit back, he complained head over heels over that issue and Machines is unable to find the issue. Apple then made a deal, 1 to 1 exchange. He waited for the new unit to come and DHL guy came deliver the new one, my friend passed back the old one. Everything was fine. He got everything new.... even the box.

So purely saying that I find if buy Apple Premium Products, it's best to buy from Apple Online Store. Don't sulk to the 'freebies' and stuff. Those freebies are cheap china things. What they care is only sales.

Also same cases with iPhones. Refurbed and old users information still inside! I bet highly that the resellers here also adopt the same thing. Check everything, bring a friend who knows a mac to the store. Study the product well before buying and find feedbacks first. We consumers now have to be smart because retailers are getting smarter to cheat people on closing the deal.
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Thanks for your sharing and this is something to learn. But I think things will still be more or less the same until Apple setup an official store/office here which I don't think this is going to happen in the near future....
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post Jul 29 2011, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(xaw5126 @ Jul 29 2011, 10:52 AM)
@ cheetoh Machines is in the sales business. they don't care about after-sales service, as we can see. Good luck convincing the directors to improve the after-sales service. I tried, they are just not bothered.
what group power? Mac Owner's club? the fact is that most of Machines' customers are walk-in retail ... that's why they are like that. they're tumpang glamor on the Apple brand name. just like some infamous car dealers smile.gif
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Any idea to rescue or help Malaysia's Apple fans or users? smile.gif
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post Jul 29 2011, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(wei @ Jul 29 2011, 12:38 PM)
You can't blame them. Your board might ship with other claim parts/ product that very likely to get held up by customs. Unless Apple ship your board separately.
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you might be right as well. but i think this is not the first time custom hold any parts/products that Apple sent and definitely not the first time Machines deal with them. just trying to analyse the whole situation based on my common sense.
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post Jul 29 2011, 12:58 PM

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i have a solution, but it involves 500 thousand RM minimum and the unwavering support of Mac users in Malaysia.

the reality is that the majority (90%) of Mac buyers are not technical types. so they prefer to buy cheap.

2nd reality, they are mostly wage earners. so they will buy where its convenient. right now, that's shopping malls.

my personal solution has been
1. buy from Apple online store. support Apple directly.
2. support local specialists (like wei, crxr et.al) who deliver a high-quality service at a reasonable rate.
3. educate fellow Mac users on where and how to get a good deal smile.gif
4. blacklist bad service shops. I've stopped buying ANYTHING from local Mac shops. as long as they hire from the bargain bin, I will not support their business.
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post Jul 29 2011, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(xaw5126 @ Jul 29 2011, 12:58 PM)
my personal solution has been
1. buy from Apple online store. support Apple directly.
2. support local specialists (like wei, crxr et.al) who deliver a high-quality service at a reasonable rate.
3. educate fellow Mac users on where and how to get a good deal smile.gif
4. blacklist bad service shops. I've stopped buying ANYTHING from local Mac shops. as long as they hire from the bargain bin, I will not support their business.
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Totally agree with you.

1) Bought all my Apple stuff from the online store now.. no more checking each shop, etc.
2) I had wei replace my MacBook keyboard before. Support local professionals!


This post has been edited by latias93: Jul 29 2011, 01:15 PM
niclas
post Jul 29 2011, 05:37 PM

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Sigh, as I strongly agree to deal directly with Apple Online Store, I were really upset by the courier who deliver the product to the buyer like us.

Ordered my MBA 2011 on July 22, while I receive the notification email from Apple to inform me that my MBA was shipped on Jul 25, from SIN (singapore) to destination JHB (Johor Bahru).

The ETA Apple given to me was 28 July, while I still able to track the path of my item through DHL despite encountered some error/insufficient parameters and bla bla bla. My item reach SZB (KL Airport) at July 26 06:13am , which actually make me believe that it will be shipped to me on time. Unfortunately, the item are still displayed as "Clearance Delay- SZB" untill today, July 29. Yes this is mainly due to the ineffectiveness of Custom (as I experience it several time) but the support from DHL are really letting me down (no answer and unclear information when I called)

Anything I can do beside wait & wait & wait.
Oh ya, the item was ship to a business address. I guess they will not attempt delivery on Saturday (July 30) ?
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post Jul 29 2011, 06:04 PM

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@niclas yes, you should call Apple 1800 80 6419 and ask for an explanation...
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post Jul 29 2011, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(xaw5126 @ Jul 29 2011, 06:04 PM)
@niclas yes, you should call Apple 1800 80 6419 and ask for an explanation...
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Hmmm.... yet to try & call them, as I think most of the case are beyond of their control (Customs / Courier issue most possibly). Will only try to contact Apple care if there is still no news until next monday icon_question.gif

Last time ordered iPhone 4 @Apple Online Store Singapore. The delivery process were very smooth without any delay (I think the main reason is Apple use Singapore as a hub and distribute their item through other nearby country.)

The only difference is that my iPhone 4 no need to go through clearance because it was delivered at Singapore address while my MBA have to pending for clearance blush.gif
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post Jul 29 2011, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(niclas @ Jul 29 2011, 08:13 PM)
Hmmm.... yet to try & call them, as I think most of the case are beyond of their control (Customs / Courier issue most possibly). Will only try to contact Apple care if there is still no news until next monday icon_question.gif

Last time ordered iPhone 4 @Apple Online Store Singapore. The delivery process were very smooth without any delay (I think the main reason is Apple use Singapore as a hub and distribute their item through other nearby country.)

The only difference is that my iPhone 4 no need to go through clearance because it was delivered at Singapore address while my MBA have to pending for clearance  blush.gif
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Your MBA is considered as an import.
That's why they need custom clearance.

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post Jul 29 2011, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(BRY7 @ Jul 29 2011, 09:44 PM)
Your MBA is considered as an import.
That's why they need custom clearance.
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Yes~ That's the issue ~
But it take 3 days (might more than 3) to clearance... a bit slow lor cry.gif
July 26,27,28,29,..... shocking.gif
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post Jul 29 2011, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(niclas @ Jul 29 2011, 09:56 PM)
Yes~ That's the issue ~
But it take 3 days (might more than 3) to clearance... a bit slow lor  cry.gif
July 26,27,28,29,.....   shocking.gif
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You can't blame DHL for this, our Malaysian custom are not efficient.
My last purchase from apple store, an iPod nano.
It took 5 days for them to deliver.
3 days stuck at subang


Added on July 29, 2011, 10:02 pm
QUOTE(niclas @ Jul 29 2011, 09:56 PM)
Yes~ That's the issue ~
But it take 3 days (might more than 3) to clearance... a bit slow lor  cry.gif
July 26,27,28,29,.....  shocking.gif
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You can't blame DHL for this, our Malaysian custom are not efficient.
My last purchase from apple store, an iPod nano.
It took 5 days for them to deliver.
3 days stuck at subang

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post Jul 29 2011, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(BRY7 @ Jul 29 2011, 10:02 PM)
You can't blame DHL for this, our Malaysian custom are not efficient.
My last purchase from apple store, an iPod nano.
It took 5 days for them to deliver.
3 days stuck at subang


Added on July 29, 2011, 10:02 pm

You can't blame DHL for this, our Malaysian custom are not efficient.
My last purchase from apple store, an iPod nano.
It took 5 days for them to deliver.
3 days stuck at subang
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This is main point. So I'll be patient.Unless I can't see any movement from them, I won't call Apple to pressure them laugh.gif
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post Jul 31 2011, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(niclas @ Jul 29 2011, 10:07 PM)
This is main point. So I'll be patient.Unless I can't see any movement from them, I won't call Apple to pressure them  laugh.gif
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good luck, hopefully you get it by tomorrow.
your first mac? biggrin.gif
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post Aug 4 2011, 02:14 AM

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i'd like to get the forumers opinion on something and i hope i'm posting this query in the right "section" :P

i've two 15" mbps currently, the first gen mbp and a mid '10 mbp. both has acpp and the one i'd like your opinions on is the former.

as you know it's been 3 years since it's release hence my acpp on that unit ends this november. i had no issues with it for the first two years? (except when i was still in states and i had to get the battery light indicator on the side changed) but ever since last year it started overheating regularly and up to date i've had 3 logic board changed and a bloated battery among other things.

and just today i've sent it in yet again for again overheating issues, screen flickers and what i suspect to be a bloated battery again.

so what i'd like to ask is, is there anything i could really do other than what i'm currently doing now? since the unit is old and my acpp ends this nov.


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thanks in advance :)

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post Aug 4 2011, 08:00 AM

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QUOTE(olivur @ Aug 4 2011, 02:14 AM)
i'd like to get the forumers opinion on something and i hope i'm posting this query in the right "section" tongue.gif

i've two 15" mbps currently, the first gen mbp and a mid '10 mbp. both has acpp and the one i'd like your opinions on is the former.

as you know it's been 3 years since it's release hence my acpp on that unit ends this november. i had no issues with it for the first two years? (except when i was still in states and i had to get the battery light indicator on the side changed) but ever since last year it started overheating regularly and up to date i've had 3 logic board changed and a bloated battery among other things.

and just today i've sent it in yet again for again overheating issues, screen flickers and what i suspect to be a bloated battery again.

so what i'd like to ask is, is there anything i could really do other than what i'm currently doing now? since the unit is old and my acpp ends this nov.
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thanks in advance smile.gif
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Looks like is time to letting your mbp go .sell your mbp, i believe there would be buyers if you sell at reasonable price. There is no point of having two laptops at the same time unless you require two mbp at the same time.
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post Aug 10 2011, 12:52 PM

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i kinda wanted to keep the older one so that i could play around with it. (had a dual hdd set up in mind)

but if the logic board is going to fry out every 3-4 months .. then yeah ._x!
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post Aug 10 2011, 12:58 PM

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@olivur, It seems like what you do on the unit is generating a lot of heat. You have to look into a better thermal solution to prevent that. Steps you can take into considerations:
- Monitor the temperature.
- Speed up the internal fans.
- Re-apply thermal paste with higher grade thermal paste.
- Perform a internal cleaning to clear dust lumps.
- Monitor room temperature.
- Ensure good air flow around the unit when in use.

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post Aug 10 2011, 08:09 PM

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i used to think that since i work it heavily with illustrator / paintshop, it's just doing what it should - overheating.

but when i really started to think about it, i use it in my room which has a/c on 24/7 and my ambient room temp is usually in low 20's, i'm using an x-pad as means of cooling, and even after all that it still heats up from simple tasks such as ddl'ing dramas overnight!


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reapplying thermal paste would.. mess up my acpp.. no ._x?

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post Aug 11 2011, 12:25 PM


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MacStudio, LYP sucks. Tried to sell me Apple HDMI cable for RM79. Said Apple increase the price. Showed them the Apple Online Store, RM59 and they very reluctantly agreed to sell it to me at that price. A quick check also revealed Epicentre selling at RM79 while Machines is still RM59. This was about 3-4 weeks ago. First time I see Apple shops adjusting prices like this.

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