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post Aug 22 2020, 11:27 PM

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Got this 2 mini monster yesterday for EDC. Had not bought any light since last year, but cannot get my intereste past 2 light. The Manker MC13 & Manker E14 III.

Manker MC13 (Thrower)
Emitter : OSRAM KW CULNM1.TG LED (white light)
Max. 950 lumens output, Max. 760meters beam distance

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Manker E14 (Flooder)
Emitter : 4x Samsung LH351D
Maximum output: 4,000 lumen, Max beam distance: 155meters

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Both powered by 1x 3.7V 1100mAh high drain protected 18350 li-ion battery with Type-C USB port.

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Now I can keep the bigger light at home for short trip. smile.gif
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post Aug 23 2020, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jan 31 2020, 09:02 PM)
k here's my take on the TINI vs TIKI.

TINI.
likes -
- better mode spacing - 1 - 38 - 145 - 380, so usually 145L is what I would use more often when outside.
- has a battery indicator.
- dual buttons, so you can have primary mode say at 38L and toggle back and forth with the 380L turbo by pressing the 2nd button... without having to cycle thru all the modes.

dislikes -
- no direct access to low.
- heats up quite fast at turbo 380L.
- no constant ON at 380L.

so basically for the TIKI, it is quite the reversed.
likes -
- direct access to low.
- cannot feel the heat at 300L due to the plastic body.
- constant on at 300L, but will throttle down after 1min.

dislikes -
- don't like the mode spacing of 1 - 15 - 60 - 300...i tend to find the 60L abit lacking so usually go to 300L which is a bit too much sometimes.
- no battery indicator.
- rubber button, would much prefer the plastic buttons as on the TINI.

the red/blue indicator meanwhile is decent from 5m away... anything further than 10-15m it looks like someone left their remote controlled toy lying around...

anyway, main reason I got the TIKI is to replace my olight i3e on my car keychain...making the whole package lighter by 10gms...which doesn't sound like alot but its noticeable especially going from 65gm to 55gm.
the TINI meanwhile would still be my primary keychain light on my house keys...
Nice brief review.
Would like to know will a semi-transparent Tiki be brighter than the black Tiki LE on AUX lighting ? hmm.gif
It should be, right ?


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post Aug 23 2020, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(radi0head @ Aug 23 2020, 08:51 AM)
Nice brief review.
Would like to know will a semi-transparent Tiki be brighter than the black Tiki LE on AUX lighting ?  hmm.gif
It should be, right ?
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hmm black aux is red and blue.
transparent is white and uv.
can't really do a comparison there.
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post Aug 25 2020, 06:55 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Aug 23 2020, 09:25 AM)
hmm black aux is red and blue.
transparent is white and uv.
can't really do a comparison there.
Noted... decided to go for the transparent then...
red / blue will be less use for me...
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post Aug 25 2020, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(radi0head @ Aug 25 2020, 06:55 AM)
Noted... decided to go for the transparent then...
red / blue will be less use for me...
thank you...  thumbsup.gif
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well depends on ur usage.
technically red / blue can preserve night vision...and of cos the white cri can use as emergency light for camping / blackout etc.
but imo, all the aux are just gimmicks...unless its the uv on the gitd version since it can then charge the glow.
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post Aug 25 2020, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Aug 25 2020, 06:57 PM)
well depends on ur usage.
technically red / blue can preserve night vision...and of cos the white cri can use as emergency light for camping / blackout etc.
but imo, all the aux are just gimmicks...unless its the uv on the gitd version since it can then charge the glow.
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only red le. the blue one will wreck your night vision in seconds haha laugh.gif

Me burning my eyes whenever I turn on my usb charger and it glows bright blue rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
All my rods and cones activated whistling.gif
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post Aug 25 2020, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(power911 @ Aug 25 2020, 07:39 PM)
only red le. the blue one will wreck your night vision in seconds haha laugh.gif

Me burning my eyes whenever I turn on my usb charger and it glows bright blue rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
All my rods and cones activated whistling.gif
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maybe ur blue skew more towards white.. gg.
anyway this blue is barely 1 lumen...
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post Sep 10 2020, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(mr-2 @ Aug 22 2020, 11:27 PM)
Got this 2 mini monster yesterday for EDC. Had not bought any light since last year, but cannot get my intereste past 2 light. The Manker MC13 & Manker E14 III.

Manker MC13 (Thrower)
Emitter : OSRAM KW CULNM1.TG LED (white light)
Max. 950 lumens output, Max. 760meters beam distance


Manker E14 (Flooder)
Emitter : 4x Samsung LH351D
Maximum output: 4,000 lumen, Max beam distance: 155meters


Both powered by 1x 3.7V 1100mAh high drain protected 18350 li-ion battery with Type-C USB port.


Now I can keep the bigger light at home for short trip. smile.gif
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Nice little lights you have there.
They seem to complement one another.

For your E14, is it cool white or neutral white?
I joined the BLF groupbuy for these 2 lights combo and for the E14, I opted for the 4000K neutral white tint.
As this will be my first Samsung LED, I'm not sure what to expect of their tint, as my neutral white tints light are mainly Nichias 219B, 219C, XPL-HI and SST-40 emitters.

I just received a Jetbeam RRT03 with Nichia 219C 4000K and hopefully I can compare the tint of the Samsung and Nichia when the BLF combo arrived.

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post Sep 10 2020, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(widget @ Sep 10 2020, 01:46 PM)
As this will be my first Samsung LED, I'm not sure what to expect of their tint, as my neutral white tints light are mainly Nichias 219B, 219C, XPL-HI and SST-40 emitters.
I just received a Jetbeam RRT03 with Nichia 219C 4000K and hopefully I can compare the tint of the Samsung and Nichia when the BLF combo arrived.
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I got the single 5000k LH351D from kaidomain and my friend had the single 6000k I think from somewhere else. (I think intl outdoor but I'm not sure. Comes on noctigon board)
I couldn't really say they're outstanding 90CRI LEDs. They feel like a domed XPL to me but without rainbow tint shift.

The tint however is quite green imo. Very similar to the old XP-G2 cool whites from the 2 samples I see. Checking BLF and reddit everyone said the same about green.
Fine for me but not as pleased compared to the god led named nichia 219b rose tint doh.gif tongue.gif
My expectation too high.
But the output is very comparable to the XP-L2 I replaced on my Sofirn SP31. Milky green white with bigger hotspot goodings thumbup.gif
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post Sep 11 2020, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(power911 @ Sep 10 2020, 03:56 PM)
I got the single 5000k LH351D from kaidomain and my friend had the single 6000k I think from somewhere else. (I think intl outdoor but I'm not sure. Comes on noctigon board)
I couldn't really say they're outstanding 90CRI LEDs. They feel like a domed XPL to me but without rainbow tint shift.

The tint however is quite green imo. Very similar to the old XP-G2 cool whites from the 2 samples I see. Checking BLF and reddit everyone said the same about green.
Fine for me but not as pleased compared to the god led named nichia 219b rose tint doh.gif  tongue.gif
My expectation too high.
But the output is very comparable to the XP-L2 I replaced on my Sofirn SP31. Milky green white with bigger hotspot goodings thumbup.gif
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That's the thing bro.
When we put the Nichia 219B rosy tint as the standard, all other tints can looks mediocre tongue.gif
On paper, the Manker E14 neutral white is supposed to be Samsung 4000K, so roughly I know what to expect from the colour as I have the 219C and SST40 in 4000K.
But if the tint will turn out greenish, I will be very disappointed.

I will directly compare my quad-emitter Astrolux S41, with 219B 5000K against the E14.
The S41 is already 4 years old, but I'm sure it will still hold the ground against newer light

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post Sep 13 2020, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(widget @ Sep 10 2020, 12:46 PM)
Nice little lights you have there.
They seem to complement one another.

For your E14, is it cool white or neutral white?
I joined the BLF groupbuy for these 2 lights combo and for the E14, I opted for the 4000K neutral white tint.
As this will be my first Samsung LED, I'm not sure what to expect of their tint, as my neutral white tints light are mainly Nichias 219B, 219C, XPL-HI and SST-40 emitters.

I just received a Jetbeam RRT03 with Nichia 219C 4000K and hopefully I can compare the tint of the Samsung and Nichia when the BLF combo arrived.

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Cool light EDC light you have and congrat to your groupbuy. thumbup.gif

I got the 6500k cool white version as there is no more stock for me to test also on the neutral white.

I compare the tint to both my S1A baton and S1 baton, S1A is rather close E14 cool white. But compare the E14 to the S1 baton (Cree XM-L2 LED - TIR optic), S1 has slightly more neutral tint although both is CW.

My next light purchase I hope to get the Anduril UI light from Lumintop. Looking forward probably next month to order either the FW21 or FW4A now. smile.gif
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post Sep 14 2020, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(mr-2 @ Sep 13 2020, 03:41 PM)
Cool light EDC light you have and congrat to your groupbuy.  thumbup.gif

I got the 6500k cool white version as there is no more stock for me to test also on the neutral white.

I compare the tint to both my S1A baton and S1 baton, S1A is rather close E14 cool white. But compare the E14 to the S1 baton (Cree XM-L2 LED - TIR optic), S1 has slightly more neutral tint although both is CW.

My next light purchase I hope to get the Anduril UI light from Lumintop. Looking forward probably next month to order either the FW21 or FW4A now. smile.gif
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Thanks for your reply on the tint comparison with your S1 and S1A.

Anduril UI is a very good UI, with many functions and customisation.
I have the Lumintop FW3A, Astrolux MF01 Mini, Astrolux EC03 and Sofirn SP33 v3 that run on Anduril.
My only complaint is that the UI is a bit buggy, so sometimes you click a few times to access certain mode, but it give you a different mode.


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post Nov 6 2020, 01:55 PM

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anyone use energizer flashlight before? i plan to buy TAC 1000 mdel.
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post Nov 6 2020, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Nov 6 2020, 02:55 PM)
anyone use energizer flashlight before? i plan to buy TAC 1000 mdel.
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I got the Vision HD 2xAA. My thoughts are based on Vision HD and not TAC 1000. Just take note of it because I end up ranting instead of giving advice.

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If I'm not wrong the TAC 1000 is the same internals as the 6xAA Vision HD but with tailcap instead of side switch
If Energizer can't do right with their basic light I wouldn't trust their "tactical" series for what I experienced with my 1 light I tried.
I rather you go for their Energizer Hard Case series as those seemed to be praised well in the past.
Or Sofirn. It's a proper flashlight
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post Nov 6 2020, 06:52 PM

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If you want cheap 1000 lumens better go for Sofirn or Convoy.

Convoy S2+ with SST40 or even Osram if you want to go crazy. Easily hits 1500-2000 lumen and price is below RM60 on AliExp using coupon. You only need to add batt + charger which add up maybe to RM100+ but it's a solid built and no nonsense, just blasting power lumens/

Only thing is u need to wait it ship from oversea.

Sofirn you can go for SC31 Pro - Anduril Firmware and 2000 lumen for abt RM80, tambah a little bit more to RM100 and will ship with battery. Somemore got USB-C charging in the light, no need to buy extra charger.
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post Nov 18 2020, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(darosk @ Nov 6 2020, 06:52 PM)
If you want cheap 1000 lumens better go for Sofirn or Convoy.

Convoy S2+ with SST40 or even Osram if you want to go crazy. Easily hits 1500-2000 lumen and price is below RM60 on AliExp using coupon. You only need to add batt + charger which add up maybe to RM100+ but it's a solid built and no nonsense, just blasting power lumens/

Only thing is u need to wait it ship from oversea.

Sofirn you can go for SC31 Pro - Anduril Firmware and 2000 lumen for abt RM80, tambah a little bit more to RM100 and will ship with battery. Somemore got USB-C charging in the light, no need to buy extra charger.
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any recommendation for model using AA battery?
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post Nov 18 2020, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Nov 18 2020, 04:32 PM)
any recommendation for model using AA battery?
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If it’s me I’d just go for Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 in Nichia LED – that would be my choice. Price should be around about RM100 give or take, last time I saw them. A lot cheaper if you buy from overseas. Good balanced beam for EDC uses, straightforward UI. Tailstanding with detachable diffuser cap. Looks nice, very lightweight. IPX8 – good waterproofing. Can take 14500 cell if you want more burst of power (almost 700 lumen). Unfortunately as I look around online most shops seem to be out of stock for this model.

Olight i5t is a popular choice if you don’t mind the cooler white light, which many don’t mind – but I prefer neutral or warmer coloured light myself. It’s a bit more expensive than the lumintop. Price is about RM120-140 around there. Olight has their own unique design aesthetic.

For more budget minded you can go for Thrunite. Dependable brand for the price. Recommended model is T10 II – good built and firefly mode (low lumen setting). RM85 I saw on Gadgetworld2u. They also got a bit higher-end model called Archer 1A 3.0 – I didn’t try it myself yet but got good reviews.

I haven’t owned the Thrunites but they get good reviews.

If you want save more budget can try buying from AliExp – use their official stores. In general the prices may be cheaper, but it’s not always the case. Sometimes I found that local shop prices is almost exactly the same as buying from the AE China-based store prices.

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post Nov 18 2020, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Nov 18 2020, 05:32 PM)
any recommendation for model using AA battery?
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Any specific needs in your light use? Assuming you are okay with the Energizer tac 1000 size I would recommend some 2xAA light for brighter use because single AA light generally won't hit more than 300 lumens unless you go special lithium ion batteries.

darosk choices are pretty solid for single AA light and they're well praised for many years too especially the Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 and the Thrunite T10 II
I'd go with Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 XP-L HD for max brightness if the Nichia LED was not an option (Though the Nichia LED will give a tasty beam color compared to the XP-L brightness)
I own the first gen Thrunite T10 and although these are amazing single AA light, I probably won't use it much due to the basic brightness output.


As for 2x AA light which is more convenient imo due to many rechargeable AA batteries sold as pair and way higher power without using lithium rechargeables
-Sofirn SF13 gets my first pick on cheap and bright LED light. While their UI is a 4 mode memory driver, it's plenty easy to use and long enough to poke people as weapon.
-Nitecore MT2A is an old light but they're still selling it due to it's usefulness in design. A light to consider.


And I see no reason why shouldn't we use rechargeables in our modern life. There are plenty good light and powerful to run as EDC for the budget given.
-Nitecore Tiki or Nitecore Tip SE is a very versatile keychain light bright enough to light up dark alleys and will never leave your keys.
-Or the pricier Rovyvon series keychain light that gets praised rclxm9.gif
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post Nov 19 2020, 10:40 AM

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the 1xAA that i'm using now is a manker E11 that i just leave in the car...
the rest just lying around collecting dust now like a zebralight sc52w...
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Nov 18 2020, 04:32 PM)
any recommendation for model using AA battery?
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QUOTE(darosk @ Nov 18 2020, 04:59 PM)
If it’s me I’d just go for Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 in Nichia LED – that would be my choice. Price should be around about RM100 give or take, last time I saw them. A lot cheaper if you buy from overseas. Good balanced beam for EDC uses, straightforward UI. Tailstanding with detachable diffuser cap. Looks nice, very lightweight. IPX8 – good waterproofing. Can take 14500 cell if you want more burst of power (almost 700 lumen). Unfortunately as I look around online most shops seem to be out of stock for this model.

Olight i5t is a popular choice if you don’t mind the cooler white light, which many don’t mind – but I prefer neutral or warmer coloured light myself. It’s a bit more expensive than the lumintop. Price is about RM120-140 around there. Olight has their own unique design aesthetic.

For more budget minded you can go for Thrunite. Dependable brand for the price. Recommended model is T10 II – good built and firefly mode (low lumen setting). RM85 I saw on Gadgetworld2u. They also got a bit higher-end model called Archer 1A 3.0 – I didn’t try it myself yet but got good reviews.

I haven’t owned the Thrunites but they get good reviews.

If you want save more budget can try buying from AliExp – use their official stores. In general the prices may be cheaper, but it’s not always the case. Sometimes I found that local shop prices is almost exactly the same as buying from the AE China-based store prices.
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+1 with the Lumintop. thumbup.gif
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There's also a limited Titanium version. drool.gif
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Olight S1A also not too bad. smile.gif
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Previously when Eagletac was sold in Malaysia, it was also very good. thumbsup.gif
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