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How to install Hager EH711, wanna make timer for house outdoor light
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weikee
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Jan 10 2012, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(KIntos @ Jan 10 2012, 11:57 AM) you mean those like EHS/Onking also got sell? i go those sell hardware like DB SS2 and few hardware shop only sell 13amp socket type Nope, the shop selling cables, conduit, and major electrical wiring. One at SS2, the near swensen's ice cream , few more at sea park, near the O&S Restaurant. Or pasar road. E711 last year price was around 80 to 90.
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ozak
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Jan 10 2012, 12:09 PM
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Just go to pasar road. You never fail to get 1.
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KIntos
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Jan 10 2012, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 10 2012, 12:09 PM) Just go to pasar road. You never fail to get 1. hmm. tomolo wiringman come to install lighting and socket dy. Got no time to go KL, busy with house things. was thinking to ask wiring leave the wire and i do it my self on the timer installation or do it next time. samore got bombing in KL lagi scare.
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kh8668
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Jan 10 2012, 12:35 PM
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can install daylight sensor SELCON cost only rm25 each
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kelvyn
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Jan 10 2012, 12:39 PM
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go to those shops that sell electrical wires, switches, etc, etc. They should have. There are few brands in the market, incl those China made ones
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KIntos
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Jan 10 2012, 01:12 PM
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maybe postponed installation. i will do it myself after i bought them. either timer or daylight sensor.
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aeiou228
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Jan 10 2012, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE(KIntos @ Jan 10 2012, 01:12 PM) maybe postponed installation. i will do it myself after i bought them. either timer or daylight sensor. For porch lighting purpose, I personally prefer light sensor, because I only want lights when the surrounding is dark and I don't need a specific timing of wanting the light to be switched on after dark say 11pm. Further more light sensor is much more cheaper and less maintenance then Hager timer. Why less maintenance ? because once the hager's irreplaceable built-in battery wears out, it will only work as a mechanical timer. Any power cut off will alter the on/off timing.
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KIntos
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Jan 10 2012, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Jan 10 2012, 02:01 PM) For porch lighting purpose, I personally prefer light sensor, because I only want lights when the surrounding is dark and I don't need a specific timing of wanting the light to be switched on after dark say 11pm. Further more light sensor is much more cheaper and less maintenance then Hager timer. Why less maintenance ? because once the hager's irreplaceable built-in battery wears out, it will only work as a mechanical timer. Any power cut off will alter the on/off timing. i was planning to install timer/sensor for porch and backyard.
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aeiou228
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Jan 10 2012, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE(KIntos @ Jan 10 2012, 02:03 PM) i was planning to install timer/sensor for porch and backyard. Do you have the need to control the timing ? if yes then go for timer. if no light sensor is less headache.
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KIntos
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Jan 10 2012, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Jan 10 2012, 02:10 PM) Do you have the need to control the timing ? if yes then go for timer. if no light sensor is less headache. well. my initial planning was to make sure it light 7pm until 8am. Not sure how accurate daylight sensor but im sure both of them workable for me. expensive or not expensive also nvrmind coz only will be using for max 2 units of timer. porch is using downlight and backyard using florescent. Added on January 10, 2012, 8:33 pmi bought 2 units at USJ opposite Starbuck Hardware shop named USJ Sin Loong Sdn Bhd @ RM 100 each. This post has been edited by KIntos: Jan 10 2012, 08:33 PM
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Xploit Machine
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Jan 27 2012, 10:33 PM
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Here's my contribution of personal installation experience. This diagram is for both TIMER UNIT & LIGHT SWITCH to work on "either one" mode. The TIMER UNIT will start to work once the 1 GANG switch is turned OFF, also user can turn ON the light at any time of point using the 1 GANG switch.  Hope it helps everyone
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pky
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Jan 28 2012, 07:03 PM
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do note, with that wiring, the 1 Gang switch act only as By-Past switch where the load can be turn on anytime by the user. User would have no control once the timer is in "on" position.
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ozak
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Jan 28 2012, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE(pky @ Jan 28 2012, 07:03 PM) do note, with that wiring, the 1 Gang switch act only as By-Past switch where the load can be turn on anytime by the user. User would have no control once the timer is in "on" position. You can OFF the timer by open the cover and switch the bypass button.
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pky
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Jan 29 2012, 03:11 AM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 28 2012, 07:54 PM) You can OFF the timer by open the cover and switch the bypass button. If you are willing to OFF the timer by open the cover, might as well forget about installing the By-Pass switch. Just ON/OFF the timer by open the cover whenever you want to do manual switching.
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ozak
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Jan 29 2012, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(pky @ Jan 29 2012, 03:11 AM) If you are willing to OFF the timer by open the cover, might as well forget about installing the By-Pass switch. Just ON/OFF the timer by open the cover whenever you want to do manual switching. OFF the timer by open the cover is a temporary bypass switch in case you want to --> User would have no control once the timer is in "on" position. Switch it back once you done.
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chintl
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Jan 29 2012, 01:58 PM
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New Member
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QUOTE(Xploit Machine @ Jan 27 2012, 10:33 PM) Here's my contribution of personal installation experience. This diagram is for both TIMER UNIT & LIGHT SWITCH to work on "either one" mode. The TIMER UNIT will start to work once the 1 GANG switch is turned OFF, also user can turn ON the light at any time of point using the 1 GANG switch. Hope it helps everyone  Thanks for sharing. I roughly got the idea, but isn't it weird if positions 1 and 2 serve no purpose here? or the bypass switch is connected to 1 & 2 instead of 4 maybe?
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Xploit Machine
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Jan 29 2012, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(chintl @ Jan 29 2012, 01:58 PM) Thanks for sharing. I roughly got the idea, but isn't it weird if positions 1 and 2 serve no purpose here? or the bypass switch is connected to 1 & 2 instead of 4 maybe? Yes of course, that would work too  u can move the L1 flowing from 4 to 2 also, connecting LIVE to LIVE will not harm the electric flow circuit  I've made such diagram to not to congest port 2 since incoming supply looping to 4 has 2 wires attached, and L1 will make the port looks bulky, therefore I swapped with 4, this will look more neat
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Xploit Machine
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Feb 3 2012, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE(goldspark @ Feb 3 2012, 08:09 AM) I'm particularly interested in the Selcon sensor that a fellow member posted. However, wiring is a bit tricky especially when I want to overide the sensor. You see, usually the sensor will only switch on the lights when it's dark. What if there is a need to switch on the lights even during daytime. Can any member here care to share?  Easy, in this case you need to pull an auxillary 1 gang switching power supply which also connects to the device. This will ease to you use the light at daytime by turning ON the switch.
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chance
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Jun 21 2012, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(Xploit Machine @ Feb 3 2012, 10:10 AM) Easy, in this case you need to pull an auxillary 1 gang switching power supply which also connects to the device. This will ease to you use the light at daytime by turning ON the switch.  hi, going to install a new timer to control the light. emm.... dun know whr should get the neutral any body can help? here the layout:
thanks
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