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 How to install Hager EH711, wanna make timer for house outdoor light

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kelvyn
post Jan 4 2012, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 28 2011, 02:05 PM)
It is not difficult if you instal next to the light and hide on top of the ceiling. I do that for the car porch. But if you instal next to the switch, you need to wire a neutral from db or nearest place.
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Wondering how to install the timer (wiring) if is to be installed beside the porch light? There is only 2 wires at the light.

While someone mentioned ...

1 - Neutral
2 - Live
3 - <Nothing>
4 - Live
5 - Wire to light
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post Jan 4 2012, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jan 4 2012, 11:28 AM)
Wondering how to install the timer (wiring) if is to be installed beside the porch light? There is only 2 wires at the light.

While someone mentioned ...

1 - Neutral
2 - Live
3 - <Nothing>
4 - Live
5 - Wire to light
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If instal beside the porch light, your light should have L, N and E wire. I guess you know which 1 is live and neutral.

If you install beside the porch switch, than you need to wire out a neutral wire from the light or nearest neutral wire you can find.

If you no idea what is L and N, better leave it to electrician to do. Safety first.
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post Jan 4 2012, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 4 2012, 12:36 PM)
If instal beside the porch light, your light should have L, N and E wire. I guess you know which 1 is live and neutral.

If you install beside the porch switch, than you need to wire out a neutral wire from the light or nearest neutral wire you can find.

If you no idea what is L and N, better leave it to electrician to do. Safety first.
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Noted. Thanks. Will try it out this weekend
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post Jan 4 2012, 04:50 PM

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This should help.

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3306/hager.jpg
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post Jan 5 2012, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 4 2012, 05:50 PM)
Thanks. Got that in the box that came with the eh711
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post Jan 5 2012, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jan 5 2012, 02:12 PM)
Thanks. Got that in the box that came with the eh711
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Is very straightforward, you can control 2 equipments making both flip flop.
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post Jan 5 2012, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 5 2012, 02:15 PM)
Is very straightforward, you can control 2 equipments making both flip flop.
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The timer can install next to existing switch, rite? Wonder my wiring guy say NO?
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QUOTE(wrb7878 @ Jan 5 2012, 03:28 PM)
The timer can install next to existing switch, rite? Wonder my wiring guy say NO?
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It needs to be connected to the Neutral wire. So, unless there is one some where near the switch, then will not work
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post Jan 5 2012, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jan 5 2012, 02:33 PM)
It needs to be connected to the Neutral wire. So, unless there is one some where near the switch, then will not work
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So i need to check my existing light switch inside have Neutral wire o not?

Most of the power socket will have neutral rite?
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post Jan 5 2012, 02:39 PM

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All go out must come back. When you have Live, you need neutral to have a complete circuit.

Usually light switch is on with Live, and neutral are all loop neat the equipments. Only A/C, heater, oven switch, or high current switch have both neutral and Live.

If your switch point have A/C or water heater switch, you can tap from there.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 5 2012, 02:39 PM)
All go out must come back. When you have Live, you need neutral to have a complete circuit.

Usually light switch is on with Live, and neutral are all loop neat the equipments. Only A/C, heater, oven switch, or high current switch have both neutral and Live.

If your switch point have A/C or water heater switch, you can tap from there.
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my light switch point at main door to on/off the foyer light only...1 gang alone no other swtich/socket.
tat why my wiring guy keep say No.
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QUOTE(wrb7878 @ Jan 5 2012, 02:48 PM)
my light switch point at main door to on/off the foyer light only...1 gang alone no other swtich/socket.
tat why my wiring guy keep say No.
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Than you need to tap it from the nearest A/C socket, or pull one over.
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post Jan 6 2012, 07:19 PM

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You need a neutral wire to make it work. Normally neutral wire is not available in your light switch.

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post Jan 6 2012, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 6 2012, 07:19 PM)
You need a live wire to make it work. Normally live wire is not available in your light switch. If you don't know what you are doing please hire a electrician
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Live is on the light switch.
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post Jan 6 2012, 08:43 PM

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Here for those no idea where tap a neutral wire for the timer.

Original is just 1 switch with no neutral in my storeroom. I modify it to 2 switch with a timer beside and take the neutral wire from the light. As you see the trunking running to the light. The light and switch is for outside backyard light. If locate at hall, don't use this way. The trunking freaking ugly. He.....

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oops i meant neutral....sorry

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post Jan 7 2012, 12:12 AM

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Very dangerous to tell people wrong information. They may think is not live and touch the wires.
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post Jan 10 2012, 11:44 AM

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Where i can buy this timer Hager EH711 around PJ or USJ? Why i asked Top Ten they said no sell timer when i go there buy lighting that time.
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post Jan 10 2012, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(KIntos @ Jan 10 2012, 11:44 AM)
Where i can buy this timer Hager EH711 around PJ or USJ? Why i asked Top Ten they said no sell timer when i go there buy lighting that time.
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Electrical shop.
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post Jan 10 2012, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 10 2012, 11:51 AM)
Electrical shop.
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you mean those like EHS/Onking also got sell? i go those sell hardware like DB SS2 and few hardware shop only sell 13amp socket type

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