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post Apr 2 2010, 12:49 AM, updated 16y ago

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WELCOME TO THE PLANTED TANK THREAD VERSION 4

- FYI, the first edition of Planted Tank initiated by nezumitaro
- All this is taken from the previous thread, thanks for those who did it.

Planted Aquarium V1 - http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/429955
Planted Aquarium V2 - http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1008287
Planted Aquarium V3 - http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1241871
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post Apr 2 2010, 12:56 AM

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Starting a Planted Aquarium
Basic hardware to get
1. aquarium tank
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2. filter
- hob filter

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- canister filter
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- Bio ring/bio ball/cotton/substratpro
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3. lights
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4. co2
- co2 pressurized cylinder tank
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- bubble counter/diffusor/reactor
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- diy co2
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great to see a new thread =)

my crs are surviving, hopefully they can breed, gonna start anohter 2ft tank =)
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Creating a Nature Aquarium


1. 5 element
- Bacter 100
- Clear Super
- Tourmaline BC
- Penac W
- Penac S

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2. Aquarium Soil
- ADA Aquasoil
- ADA PowerSand

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3. Layout/scape
- rocks
- Driftwood

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4. Plants
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voila! after few weeks
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picture credits from google. none of these are pictures i taken.

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lepak le. really not in the condition to be seen, gonna settle my filter problem firs, my classic i think not doing the job well. the water is cloudy, gonna try ADA medium and Eheim together, see how it goes, my second filter got some brown stuff there, dunno wats that

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Yes! New thread smile.gif Hows the gathering? jd ka?


Added on April 2, 2010, 2:31 amMichanz, the title on the top should be.. V4 not V3...

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post Apr 2 2010, 08:06 AM

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post Apr 2 2010, 08:17 AM

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post Apr 2 2010, 08:21 AM

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I think i will rest for this year IAPLC 2010...
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post Apr 2 2010, 08:24 AM

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come on tenchi...

still got 2 months to go..

it's still sempat one...even you start planting...give 1 week for ur plant to settle down then ur plant can grow grow grow...hehehe
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post Apr 2 2010, 09:39 AM

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Go for it folks. And congrats on new thread!
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post Apr 2 2010, 11:29 AM

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hi guys,

I am new to the planted tank. Looked through at some of the photos here really inspire me to start one up. Bought some ADA soil(with power sand), fan, DIY co2 and a new tank (2x1x1 feet) along with some tetras .Plants growing nicely, but notice some hair algae. WHen do I start fertilizing the plants ? I am planning to buy some Brighty Step 1 and Brighty K. LFS says that I should start fertilizing only 1 month later and now I am in my third week. Any advice ?
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yeap, most of the time is 1 month later ...
for Brighty K aka Potassium every day 1 ml for 2 feet tank...
and if save cost i do suggest get Seachem Flourish... what i do is
everyday 1ml = 1 push of the Brighty K ( when i switch on the light )
for Seachem Flourish i put 5ml for every week after water change...


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post Apr 2 2010, 12:09 PM

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I dose from day 1 >=D well, that's everyone's preferences la.. we do have succesful scapers without even the need to dose tongue.gif

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post Apr 2 2010, 12:14 PM

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lol... but i believe dose encourage it to grow better =D
Fertilizer ( BENIH ) !!
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post Apr 2 2010, 12:17 PM

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dose too much and ur growing algae. so id say get some algae eaters to eat the hair algae and start dosing next week
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post Apr 2 2010, 12:20 PM

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Seachem contains micro trace right....? and Brighty K for potassium.... I notice that ADA line of fertilizer don't have supplements for nitrogen and phosporus....Should i go for Seachem instead ?
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post Apr 2 2010, 12:33 PM

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if u have the cash to spend then go for DO AQUA ! they have NPK
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Erk Michanzz i dont know where i read in My-Mac forums someone said dosing alot Fert wont caused algae... algae attack due to the other circumstances... i forgot about what already... someone mind to explain ? Chuppy? haha

about the Nitrogen of ADA i believe they have, just that they change their bottle name... eg Brighty K = Potassium... try google ADA Step 1 and 2 and etc their product description ..
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No nitrogen and phosphorus? sure? tongue.gif Brighty Special Lights/Shade is the key..


Aiya.. We have been repeating the theory on algae's appearance..

DOSE too much, not enough c02 and light.. ALGAE COME
Dont dose at all, a lot of light, no c02... ALGAE COME..
Dose adequately, a lot og c02, not much light.. also ALGAE COME..

Strike a balance between the 3 and you would have MINIMAL algae..

Why? So we can let our plants to grow at optimum strength so no excess nutrients for the algae to feed on..

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Conclusion please? lolz !!
lazy to use brain =X
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post Apr 2 2010, 01:11 PM

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like that ma no brain hahahah.

I already said the conclusion ma.. =.= read please.. I won't spoon feed.

::Simple conclusion::
Provide all the necessaries for your plant to grow at it's best ( c02 light fert) and your plant will grow healthily.. when that happens, algae will be minimal.. so to overdose is not a wise decision as well.

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Hi , my tank is 1 month old.. there are some neons in it.. i bought some RCS and i put some of the water from the tank into the plastic.. and put my plastic in the tank.. but the shrimp seems to be agitated..
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People Rescape I 'Rescape' Like Baby Playing Mud..
Now Water Muddy Like "Loji Kumbahan"..
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Gonna Wait Till 2nite Only Clear..
BTW Its Hardly To Catch The Neon Tetra..
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wen30: i would suggest wait until your tank matured 1st better... my tank already 3 months i also haven put in shrimp yet lolz...

Theangel: lolz... should siphon out all the water to 10 % just rescape better IMO =)
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i just buy a few to test only.. play play only.. haha..
1 feet tank with 250l/hour filter consider too much?
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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Apr 2 2010, 12:49 PM)
Conclusion please? lolz !!
lazy to use brain =X
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niasink! different tanks will have different requirement, no 2 tanks are the same, same size?yeah but different types/amount of plants will need different requirements for ferts/chemicals/waterchanges/water conditionings or whatever.

so its up to the tank owner to get a feel of their tanks.. monitor tank conditions, water parameters algae sightings. with just monitoring the types and amount of algae that grows, u can learn alot about ur water parameters.. see what algae you got, google up and read why u have that particular algae. from there u try to alter the conditions of the tank, less ferts? less co2? less lights? or the other way round?

so no one can tell you use this fert or add that much quantity of co2 specifically, people can recommend you to try this or that, well use that as a basicpoint and try and see how ur tanks react to it, from there u alter a little the changes according to your tank..

basically most of us will have to go thru trial and error. see what suits ur tank best!

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QUOTE(wen30 @ Apr 2 2010, 01:16 PM)
Hi , my tank is 1 month old.. there are some neons in it..  i bought some RCS and i put some of the water from the tank into the plastic.. and put my plastic in the tank.. but the shrimp seems to be agitated..
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it is sometimes normal for shrimps to be agitated, either ur tanks isint suitable yet for shrimps, filter not mature and etc,

or just that the shrimp from the shop is already used to the tanks in theshops, now u bring them home they have to get used to your tank water condition pulak..

i sacrificed about 30 - 40 shrimps just to test out my water.. my tank got stable and shrimps start to breed only afer 1 - 2 months i set up my tank..
all u have to do is read up more on their requirements and how to implement it in your tank water conditions..
with a little patience you'll have them breeding! thumbup.gif

QUOTE(~TheAngel~ @ Apr 2 2010, 01:32 PM)
People Rescape I 'Rescape' Like Baby Playing Mud..
Now Water Muddy Like "Loji Kumbahan"..
cry.gif
Gonna Wait Till 2nite Only Clear..
BTW Its Hardly To Catch The Neon Tetra..
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next time take out the water keep in in a baldi, rscape without the water in the tank.. then masukkan new water 50% then take it out again.. then u slowly slowlyslowly slowyly pour in the original water u took out earlier..


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QUOTE(wen30 @ Apr 2 2010, 02:07 PM)
i just buy a few to test only.. play play only.. haha..
1 feet tank with 250l/hour filter consider too much?
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haha i did that too last time, buy some then campak in tank to test my water.. about 40 shrimps later then oni i know my water is good enoufh!

1ft tank has about 30liters? i think less? maybe 25liters?

my calculations based on chuppy, (dontwant take blame if wrong so points to chuppy) biggrin.gif is ur tank 25 liter x 10 - 12 = 250l/h - 300l/h filter is neede laugh.gif

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join IPLC need fees one ah??... i also wanna submit my paliah tank try try, if free la.. haha...
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QUOTE(~TheAngel~ @ Apr 2 2010, 02:26 PM)
Yes Sir Sifu Michanz^^
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Apr 2 2010, 02:28 PM)
join IPLC need fees one ah??... i also wanna submit my paliah tank try try, if free la.. haha...
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never submit before so i dunno lolx..

ask chuppy! he every year submit one rclxub.gif
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haha i did that too last time, buy some then campak in tank to test my water.. about 40 shrimps later then oni i know my water is good enoufh! 1ft tank has about 30liters? i think less? maybe 25liters? my calculations based on chuppy, (dontwant take blame if wrong so points to chuppy) is ur tank 25 liter x 10 - 12 = 250l/h - 300l/h filter is neede


my tank is only 13 liter.. haha small tank..

i think my shrimp play April fool with me.. 1 of them went missing from the plastic when i woke up this worning, i placed the plastic bag at a corner last night.. no body found... unsure.gif


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QUOTE(wen30 @ Apr 2 2010, 02:48 PM)

my tank is only 13 liter.. haha small tank..

i think my shrimp play April fool with me.. 1 of them went missing from the plastic when i woke up this worning, i placed the plastic bag at a corner last night.. no body found... unsure.gif
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then ur filter is very powerfull! hehe

why do u keep it in the plstic? means that ur neons had shrimp cocktail for dinner
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IAPLC no need to submit any fees.
But better be fast, as the deadline only around 2month ahead.
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why do u keep it in the plstic? means that ur neons had shrimp cocktail for dinner


hmm i don't think so.. the neon are in tank.. i just bought the shrimps and realized one of them missin when i wan to put them into tank this morning.. i think it crawl out last night and died somewhere in my room..

never keep shrimp before until these few months get interested in them.. i think i got a lot to learn from you..
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QUOTE(Foxngn @ Apr 2 2010, 03:00 PM)
IAPLC no need to submit any fees.
But better be fast, as the deadline only around 2month ahead.
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still alive ar u? hahaha

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why do u keep it in the plstic? means that ur neons had shrimp cocktail for dinner


hmm i don't think so.. the neon are in tank.. i just bought the shrimps and realized one of them missin when i wan to put them into tank this morning.. i think it crawl out last night and died somewhere in my room..

never keep shrimp before until these few months get interested in them.. i think i got a lot to learn from you..
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they do jump! once in awhile ill see a dried up shrimp on the floor! brings me to tears! hehe

snap a pictue show us ur tank smile.gif
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my rcs i threw in after 2 weeks but i did put 2 bacter ball inside filter & 1 inside tank...

from 30 rcs now become 300+ after bout 4 months haha..
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Oi mic.. Since when I tell people u need 10-12x?? I keep telling people 2-6x weh.. Don't pull me into hot water
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QUOTE(shortpants @ Apr 2 2010, 04:16 PM)
my rcs i threw in after 2 weeks but i did put 2 bacter ball inside filter & 1 inside tank...

from 30 rcs now become 300+ after bout 4 months haha..
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nice! now u know whats the next step? CRS!!

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Oi mic.. Since when I tell people u need 10-12x?? I keep telling people 2-6x weh.. Don't pull me into hot water
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izzziit?? i swear i heard 10 lolx! hahaa im mistaken then laugh.gif

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haha... soon coz im moving house soon... so will set-up 2.5ft with chiller is all ready... wait for new house move in & will start that tank...

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moving further or nearer to us? heheh
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QUOTE(michanz @ Apr 2 2010, 05:55 PM)
moving further or nearer to us? heheh
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moving to putra heights...
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freestyler. just asked the glass shop. rm50 for ur dimension.
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QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Apr 2 2010, 06:04 PM)
freestyler. just asked the glass shop. rm50 for ur dimension.
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freestyler. just asked the glass shop. rm50 for ur dimension.
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Huh.. Then Can Custom Made Aquarium?
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Huh.. Then Can Custom Made Aquarium?
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still alive ar u? hahaha

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a lil bit busy recently.
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I Feel Exited Now Creating Custom Aquarium..
Wonder Pyramid Aquarium Ok Or Not~
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go make and make a nice scape for us and see hehehe

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wa... michanz started v4 wor... nice... so fast growing this thread.. aro thread oni hav 1.1k posts and started before this thread... anyways... dunno how am i going to save... im a BIG,BIG SPENDER.... and im also targeting a 6 footer for my precious aro... then the 3footer will be free but the problem is that mum doesnt allow me to place tank inside... that means... extreme algae problem... I could put at the back but need plug point... some more is that this whole plan could be ruined if my dad doesnt agree on the 6 footer...
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emm.. my tank very simple only.. just got hair grass and a bunch stem plant..

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don't laugh..

my shrimp seems ok d.. but i see them eating up the algae very fast.. now clean d.. what to feed them?? i think tomolo the algae will gone all.. now half gone d.. later they will starve...
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wen30, u need to plant MOSS for them. shrimp are pair with mosssss
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wen30, u need to plant MOSS for them. shrimp are pair with mosssss

really? ok i will go get some.. i saw the moss planted tank in pet family is quite nice.. got many crs inside.. but they don sell the moss..

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come over 88 pet smart at sunwaymas. the pet family u mention izzit taman megah 1 ?
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QUOTE(~TheAngel~ @ Apr 2 2010, 07:26 PM)
I Feel Exited Now Creating Custom Aquarium..
Wonder Pyramid Aquarium Ok Or Not~
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haaa pyramid aquarium??? sunway pyramid? nothing there leh

QUOTE(BenSow @ Apr 2 2010, 08:54 PM)
wa... michanz started v4 wor... nice... so fast growing this thread.. aro thread oni hav 1.1k posts and started before this thread... anyways... dunno how am i going to save... im a BIG,BIG SPENDER.... and im also targeting a 6 footer for my precious aro... then the 3footer will be free but the problem is that mum doesnt allow me to place tank inside... that means... extreme algae problem... I could put at the back but need plug point... some more is that this whole plan could be ruined if my dad doesnt agree on the 6 footer...
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aquarium inside is bad fengshui? they say put aquarium inside room bad bad fengshui...

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snap a pictue show us ur tank


emm.. my tank very simple only.. just got hair grass and a bunch stem plant..

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don't laugh..

my shrimp seems ok d.. but i see them eating up the algae very fast.. now clean d.. what to feed them?? i think tomolo the algae will gone all.. now half gone d.. later they will starve...
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ur hairgrass i recommend u to seperate more.. like 5 or 6 grass per hole.. then spread evenly across! got co2??

and yeah like fonglengzhai said, get mosses! ask fongzai to harvest from his tank.. tell him his 1 overgrown edi! push him to harvest hahah
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why no picture at the thread there?????
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Photo Spamming time !

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QUOTE(pinchboyz @ Apr 2 2010, 11:21 PM)
why no picture at the thread there?????
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alot wat? hehe


@foxngn - feed them what? ur moss so green and healthy


Added on April 2, 2010, 11:24 pmFTS PLS

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Feed them sinking pallet lor... my moss always green & healthy one..lol.. Java moss sajer mah.

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use what to shoot? dslr ah


Added on April 2, 2010, 11:33 pmwhen wana go for crs?

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QUOTE(michanz @ Apr 2 2010, 11:31 PM)
use what to shoot? dslr ah


Added on April 2, 2010, 11:33 pmwhen wana go for crs?
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yeap..DSLR with noob skill.
tak mau la.. CRS bukan untuk i main...
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QUOTE(Foxngn @ Apr 2 2010, 11:39 PM)
yeap..DSLR with noob skill.
tak mau la.. CRS bukan untuk i main...
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by 5 let it breed til 500 mah!

come my place bring dslr and shoot my tank lahh
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QUOTE(michanz @ Apr 2 2010, 11:46 PM)
by 5 let it breed til 500 mah!

come my place bring dslr and shoot my tank lahh
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Giler sial.. my tank full of predator one ler....><
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QUOTE(michanz @ Apr 2 2010, 11:24 PM)
alot wat? hehe
@foxngn - feed them what? ur moss so green and healthy


Added on April 2, 2010, 11:24 pmFTS PLS
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i mean in the subforum of petswonderland....
see last few V1/2/3, all got pics....


Added on April 3, 2010, 12:04 am
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alot wat? hehe
@foxngn - feed them what? ur moss so green and healthy


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i mean in the subforum of petswonderland....
see last few V1/2/3, all got pics....

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how to put it in lol
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waa foxngn, off shoe flash ka? hehehe.. Can see the glow on your leaf... tongue.gif

Putting aquarium inside room bad fengshui theory..

It disrupts your sleep. Sound of water flowing is not healthy to the 'soul' .. Or in this case, usually is the vibration of the filters and air pumps LOL..

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LoL.. No la, didn't use any flash that time. That one should be the reflection of the aquarium light kut.
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haha... so long didnt come online here... now already version 4 lo...

btw, my moss is growing good... but then the root of it keep become black or like rotten... hmm.,..
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QUOTE(zoejehuty @ Apr 3 2010, 12:48 AM)
haha... so long didnt come online here... now already version 4 lo...

btw, my moss is growing good... but then the root of it keep become black or like rotten... hmm.,..
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That's quite normal.. is not actually root, just old leaf of it... Moss dunhav root
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hey foxngn, wat to let go some of ur moss.. hehe...

looking to get java moss for my fish leh....
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Only the second day and we already at 4th page.. hehe.. Quite active thread here... but why can i find the topic listed in the main page? i have to search to come to here..


Added on April 3, 2010, 9:08 amOps, sorry. Missed it because could not see the avatar..

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i got extra moss also. where u stay !?
michanz punya lagi overgrow. look at his tank.. the moss like forest. laugh.gif
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im going give away. tongue.gif and some pelia also ( that time given by michanz ) biggrin.gif


Added on April 3, 2010, 11:52 am
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waa foxngn, off shoe flash ka? hehehe.. Can see the glow on your leaf... tongue.gif

Putting aquarium inside room bad fengshui theory..

It disrupts your sleep. Sound of water flowing is not healthy to the 'soul' .. Or in this case, usually is the vibration of the filters and air pumps LOL..

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haha ! canister user no need worry about sound of water flowing. :lol"


Added on April 3, 2010, 11:53 amhey michanz. those 1st post of photo are old one ? change to latest one laaaaa.. dont be lazy since u are THREAD STARTER !!!

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Want2, where can i find you?
May your moss grow lusher tongue.gif
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yeah.. fongzai where you stay.. can collect from you? smile.gif
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QUOTE(chuppy2 @ Apr 3 2010, 12:43 AM)
waa foxngn, off shoe flash ka? hehehe.. Can see the glow on your leaf... tongue.gif

Putting aquarium inside room bad fengshui theory..

It disrupts your sleep. Sound of water flowing is not healthy to the 'soul' .. Or in this case, usually is the vibration of the filters and air pumps LOL..

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now canister no vibration and water flowing sounds anymore rclxm9.gif

QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Apr 3 2010, 11:15 AM)
i got extra moss also. where u stay !?
michanz punya lagi overgrow. look at his tank.. the moss like forest. laugh.gif
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i trim already and damn damn damn alot of extra moss that time nobody want so i throw liao =X


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QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Apr 3 2010, 11:51 AM)
im going give away. tongue.gif and some pelia also ( that time given by michanz ) biggrin.gif


Added on April 3, 2010, 11:52 am
haha ! canister user no need worry about sound of water flowing. :lol"


Added on April 3, 2010, 11:53 amhey michanz. those 1st post of photo are old one ? change to latest one laaaaa.. dont be lazy since u are THREAD STARTER !!!
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pls post ur new pics NAO so i can update

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i trim already and damn damn damn alot of extra moss that time nobody want so i throw liao =X

do you use normal scissors? or you buy the curve scissor? i tried 2 times to plant HC but they all died.. donno what happen.. i got diy CO2..
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i trim already and damn damn damn alot of extra moss that time nobody want so i throw liao =X

do you use normal scissors? or you buy the curve scissor? i tried 2 times to plant HC but they all died.. donno what happen.. i got diy CO2..
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needs good light and co2! and good temperatures as well!

i use the small scissors my dad used to trim his beard 1 !and just trim like trimming beard ! hahaha
before trim
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after trim
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need to trim a little bit more

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i'll have taiwan moss and peacock moss when i restart my tank....but is infected by snails...hahaah...

anyone wans it??i'm still thinking to sell or give..

location will be in penang

hope to exchange or get other type of moss tho.. smile.gif

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The stainless steel one?
Doesnt the Moss will float like crazy in the tank?
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QUOTE(Adremier @ Apr 3 2010, 03:38 PM)
The stainless steel one?
Doesnt the Moss will float like crazy in the tank?
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i off the filter so less current in the tank.. i trim trim trim! then leave it oni, then pick up and flying moss then on filter the moss will naturaly get stuck behind a rock then i wont see it lol
yeah stainless steel


Added on April 3, 2010, 3:42 pmany ideas on what kind of stem plants would be nice for the background?

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eww... .just now saw an aquatic earthworm" in my tank.
Fark, took me quite a few minutes to get that farking worm out !
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bro brought his little dslr out liao. later i taken then will post it up ! POST IT UPPPPP !!!
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@michanz n chuppy2-yea i noe abt the bad fengshui if aquarium in room... i oso no space in my room... but my foyer area(the area in between living room n front door.. rhat one perfect place but is itbad fengshui? open front door then right in front of u... cant eeply to other posts im using phone...

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QUOTE(Foxngn @ Apr 3 2010, 07:06 PM)
eww... .just now saw an aquatic earthworm" in my tank.
Fark, took me quite a few minutes to get that farking worm out !
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bro, may be those are planaria... better becareful ya... u tank got rotten or decay stuff?


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QUOTE(michanz @ Apr 3 2010, 03:13 PM)
i trim already and damn damn damn alot of extra moss that time nobody want so i throw liao =X
next time give it to me lo... i won't say it is too much one.. my fish just love to hide inside the mosses.. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(spirit of demon @ Apr 3 2010, 10:36 PM)
bro, may be those are planaria... better becareful ya... u tank got rotten or decay stuff?


Added on April 3, 2010, 10:37 pm

next time give it to me lo... i won't say it is too much one.. my fish just love to hide inside the mosses..  tongue.gif
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Crap... erm, not sure ler... does plant rotten count too ?
Oh, i remember.. previously, few days ago i got a fish that died inside a plastic container where i quarantine it.. but after i saw it dead, i oredi took it out. Not sure is that the main cause or not.
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I just bought my new canister... 3388 lolz... 1200 liter/ Hour.. for 2 feet tank... going to create cyclone xD hahaha

but i have 1 problem... my inlet too long =.= not suitable for 1 feet high... how T_T
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Reverse it.


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er....its not eheim... is KWzone JET brand ~.~
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You mean the inlet pipe is not short one side and long one side like every other canister brands out there?

Wow this is new. the inlet pipe is a perfect U! >=D

Think I dunt know what I'm saying meh lol.

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the U is not perfect just that the inlet need the cone shape cannot put on other side... if u get what i mean lolz...
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haha deng..., saw it off then. fit it to some surface skimmer.

:: DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK / COST ::

Andrew aka "chuppy2" would not take any responsibilities in the case of an even of injury or a cracked inlet pipe..

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i also thinking of using surface skimmer but it is the same function as normal inlet? and what is the surface skimmer for? =.=

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surface skimmer <--- the name tell the story liao ler.....

DIY the inlet (cut or saw it....)

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3388 damn %^&*() big man
was looking for 3368 but they dont sell them anywhere... 3388 too big and powerful edi

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the layer of oil u see on the surface! thats wat its for

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u see the num 7 from the kwzone catalogue... the inlet... the longer place actually there have 2 hose... means can expand it longer and shorter... even i have expand that size with the Diffuser Inlet already more than 1 feet... my tank height 1 feet only... so u know what i mean... and the inlet have 2 hose to expand the outside that 1 is connect from the inlet and the inside that 1 is connect the diffuser... >.> if i dont want that hose i straight put the diffuser also cannot put it in..

hope u get what i mean

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small tank buy extremely big filter.. now got big problem. LOL
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QUOTE(pinchboyz @ Apr 4 2010, 12:09 AM)
pictures tell million words....
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Extension too long

so wana fit the U inlet straight to diffusor

but inlet + diffusor different size fittings

inlet only fits to extension

diffusor only fits to extension


inlet straight to diffusor lain size

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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Added on April 4, 2010, 12:24 amsee the pic... the extension... sucks man

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Resizee!!!!

okay, try this, after sawing wherever u wanna saw..


HEAT + SOFT PIPE

:: do not inhale in case of any fumes coming from burnt rubber ::

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Extension too long

so wana fit the U inlet straight to diffusor

but inlet + diffusor different size fittings

inlet only fits to extension

diffusor only fits to extension
inlet straight to diffusor lain size

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shrimp?
spiky moss???

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Added on April 4, 2010, 12:24 amsee the pic... the extension... sucks man
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well, as i said, there are many piping and hose in hardware shop....
DIY
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show off my riccia abit xD

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QUOTE(pinchboyz @ Apr 4 2010, 12:28 AM)
shrimp?
spiky moss???
well, as i said, there are many piping and hose in hardware shop....
DIY
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to make it pretty <3


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show off my riccia abit xD

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show off mine also Hmph!
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when chuppy come out his 1 i sure shutup edi

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then i prefer CRS...
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u see this is what i do now... terbalik it...
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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Apr 4 2010, 12:33 AM)
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u see this is what i do now... terbalik it...
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problem solved!

thats what chuppy recommended earlier right
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Added on April 4, 2010, 12:35 amproblem is Hanged like that very danger... i mean the U not totally stick to the tank...

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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Apr 4 2010, 12:34 AM)
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Added on April 4, 2010, 12:35 amproblem is Hanged like that very danger... i mean the U not totally stick to the tank...
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wtf why got the green thing in d middle
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==. I tadak Riccia to date liao.. hate those. LOL! ultra invasive plant..

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suction cup outside tank la wey! inside ugly la

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and the screw not screw the pipe...
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QUOTE(chuppy2 @ Apr 4 2010, 12:35 AM)
==. I tadak Riccia to date liao.. hate those. LOL! ultra invasive plant..

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closest picture to my last batch of riccia I had LOL.. ( 4 months back ??)
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this 1 show off otto la laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif `
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Aiyo, think the screw is the ultimatum for fitting pipes meh LOL.


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My Batang Tank... now become 2 batang... lolz !! 2 weeks old...
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QUOTE(chuppy2 @ Apr 4 2010, 12:37 AM)
Aiyo, think the screw is the ultimatum for fitting pipes meh LOL.
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my pipes dont even reach the screws lul


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My Batang Tank... now become 2 batang... lolz !! 2 weeks old...
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the saw-ed off edge doesnt look appealing


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do like this kaotim laaaa

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QUOTE(michanz @ Apr 4 2010, 12:35 AM)
wtf why got the green thing in d middle
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told u i terbalik it.. the green 1 suppose to be outside to screw the pipe... but end up i found that is the only place can use brutal to push the sucking diffuser in...


Added on April 4, 2010, 12:50 amyou think i dont want meh?? water vapor... then it suck air in the filter instead of water lolz

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QUOTE(pinchboyz @ Apr 4 2010, 12:33 AM)
then i prefer CRS...
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nah laa give u laaaa
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QUOTE(michanz @ Apr 4 2010, 12:50 AM)
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nah laa give u laaaa
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oh gosh...
what is that?
nvr have this breed in my tank yet...

now this is the new gene that i need to aim....
hahahhaa
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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Apr 4 2010, 12:48 AM)
told u i terbalik it.. the green 1 suppose to be outside to screw the pipe... but end up i found that is the only place can use brutal to push the sucking diffuser in...


Added on April 4, 2010, 12:50 amyou think i dont want meh?? water vapor... then it suck air in the filter instead of water lolz
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fill ur water higher... and just add water when it gets low


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oh gosh...
what is that?
nvr have this breed in my tank yet...

now this is the new gene that i need to aim....
hahahhaa
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crs looks somewhat like dat what! hahahahah

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Look like candy wrapper LOL
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QUOTE(chuppy2 @ Apr 4 2010, 12:53 AM)
Look like candy wrapper LOL
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consider cun already
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haiz... sien... bought today... and feel sad also... sien !!
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QUOTE(michanz @ Apr 4 2010, 12:19 AM)
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Extension too long

so wana fit the U inlet straight to diffusor

but inlet + diffusor different size fittings

inlet only fits to extension

diffusor only fits to extension
inlet straight to diffusor lain size

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damn nice michanz ! ur drawing entertained me! rclxms.gif

@kenneth, faster get your 1.5ft height tank la, problem will be FULLY-SOLVE !

here is my latest pic michanz. do update for me !!
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post Apr 4 2010, 01:12 AM

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apatu " FTS " hmm.gif
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QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Apr 4 2010, 01:14 AM)
apatu " FTS " hmm.gif
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full tank shot! from the front shoot straight at the tank at correct level

updated liao!!

like he said earlier, picture worth a thousand words!

hafto draw lah

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post Apr 4 2010, 01:25 AM

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then fongzai... help me ask 2 feet x 1 .5 feet height x 1 feet broad how much? it's for me...... about the tank i asked earlier... can you sms me the diameter? and i reply you with the answer..
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u mean the thickness of the glass or ?
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ok the earlier i asked u about the RM50 tank right? that's not for me... is for Adelyn from My-Mac... i need to confirm with her wheater she want it or not... if yes i sms you... before that i need the dimension again... i forgotten wht i ask haha


and


secondly, i wanna upgrade my tank to 2 x 1.5 x 1 feet... 5mm thick can help me ask?
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the dimension is exactly same with the 1 u asking now.
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fongzai! like dat lor! but u still senget abit! too low. must perfect angle
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fongzai =.= now im confuse... ok let settle 1 by 1...

1stly... the previous tank i asked... u said RM50 right? can you give me the dimension again? i neec to reconfirm with Adelyn... if she say YES i will order from u...

2ndly i wanted to upgrade my tank to 2 x 1.5 x 1 feet also 5mm thickness can you help me ask too?
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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Apr 4 2010, 01:30 AM)
ok the earlier i asked u about  the RM50 tank right? that's not for me... is for Adelyn from My-Mac... i need to confirm with her wheater she want it or not... if yes i sms you... before that i need the dimension again... i forgotten wht i ask haha
and
secondly, i wanna upgrade my tank to 2 x 1.5 x 1 feet... 5mm thick can help me ask?
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same lah with the one u ask earlier!

1 feet deep is damn sien i tell you


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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Apr 4 2010, 01:37 AM)
fongzai =.= now im confuse... ok let settle 1 by 1...

1stly... the previous tank i asked... u said RM50 right? can you give me the dimension again? i neec to reconfirm with Adelyn... if she say YES i will order from u...

2ndly i wanted to upgrade my tank to 2 x 1.5 x 1 feet also 5mm thickness can you help me ask too?
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adelyn tank also 2 x 1.5 x 1 and 5mm thickness leh right

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yaya.. michanz is correct ! kenneth like blur blur lol.
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QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Apr 4 2010, 01:50 AM)
yaya.. michanz is correct ! kenneth like blur blur lol.
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date?
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date?
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haha. i have to ponteng the tuition class already laugh.gif
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haha. i have to ponteng the tuition class already laugh.gif
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bolbitis ?
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bolbitis ?
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haha ! they will invite ADA come as well ? i watched the video record before. quite funny.
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QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Apr 4 2010, 02:21 AM)
haha ! they will invite ADA come as well ?  i watched the video record before. quite funny.
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dont think so.. more of a publicly private thing! lol oxymoron!

never went the first time... wana see this time around
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hi guys...
i juz started a fish tank with some plants.
can giv some comment and suggestion for it ?
there are some plants behind the driftwood, i am planning to DIY some co2 for it soon.

any recommendation on what plants is good for this kinda setup ?

thx notworthy.gif
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[quote=Foxngn,Apr 3 2010, 12:52 AM]
That's quite normal.. is not actually root, just old leaf of it... Moss dunhav root
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hmm... i'm happy cos see there got peeling... but then in the same time the old leaf, look ady not nice...

[quote=fongzai92,Apr 3 2010, 11:15 AM]
i got extra moss also. where u stay !?
michanz punya lagi overgrow. look at his tank.. the moss like forest. laugh.gif
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wat moss is that? can i have some?

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what's the plant in the middel? between the moss and the ricca.

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about this canister right, is cheap compare to branded one, but then how's the preformance?
me here in malacca got sell it... but then i dunno which one to get.
and there got one more brand called Taiyo, is it ok?

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damn, your tank is nice.... same goes as mizchan in previous post... like it a lot.
hope that mine moss can fill up the whole tank.
but then some of the moss grow and like being blow out by the water flow out from my filter.
btw, the tank right, you use hang over filter?
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@zoejehuty. hehe where got nice la. little 1ft tank only. i using canister filter. the mini size one, RESUN CY-20.

moss is easy to grow, but make sure u have cooler water to growth nicer.
set out outlet near the water surface la, but make sure dont not causing bubble with the water level u set.
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QUOTE(broken_string @ Apr 4 2010, 11:11 AM)
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hi guys...
i juz started a fish tank with some plants.
can giv some comment and suggestion for it ?
there are some plants behind the driftwood, i am planning to DIY some co2 for it soon.

any recommendation on what plants is good for this kinda setup ?

thx  notworthy.gif
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since u dont have any soil in ur tank ur only option would be java ferns and all other ferns and also mosses and riccia!
java fern
philiphine fern
bolbitis
mosses
riccia?

theyre all plants that dont need soil


Added on April 4, 2010, 12:53 pm@zoejehuty - where? which plant? o.O

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There Still Mud Inside My Tank When I Wanted To Plant..
After That I Totally Can't See Anything..
Just Now See My Tank The Root Is At Outside..
How I Can Totally Remove The Mud Ler?
(Tiring Wanna Put Water Go Up And Down)
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lol... TheAngel, i believe the mud u mention just same like what happen to me 2 months ago..., what i did is WIWO for 2 hour lolz !!!
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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Apr 4 2010, 03:07 PM)
lol... TheAngel, i believe the mud u mention just same like what happen to me 2 months ago..., what i did is WIWO for 2 hour lolz !!!
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Cause My House Got 2 Floor My Tank 2nd Floor..
Gonna Move Up N Down..
So WIWO Is Wat?
Or Think Should I Clean It 1st?
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QUOTE(~TheAngel~ @ Apr 4 2010, 02:08 PM)
Cause My House Got 2 Floor My Tank 2nd Floor..
Gonna Move Up N Down..
So WIWO Is Wat?
Or Think Should I Clean It 1st?
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water in - water out!

continuous flow of water
upstairs no toilet ar


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I Tried Pump Water Out Through Window But My Kitchen Bocor..
I Tried Pump Water In Through Downstair Toilet Pipe..
No Water Pressure In rclxub.gif

Sifu Michanz..
Tell Me What Should I Do To Make The Water Not Muddy?
Can I Filter Or Wash it 1st?
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QUOTE(~TheAngel~ @ Apr 4 2010, 02:42 PM)
I Tried Pump Water Out Through Window But My Kitchen Bocor..
I Tried Pump Water In Through Downstair Toilet Pipe..
No Water Pressure In  rclxub.gif

Sifu Michanz..
Tell Me What Should I Do To Make The Water Not Muddy?
Can I Filter Or Wash it 1st?
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okay.. restart..

1 -take out the water
2 -plant all ur plants when u take out the water
3 -when u wana refill the tank, u must ALWAYS SLOWLY POUR IN THE WATER. this so the water wont disturb the soil..

some people they fill the water up with the air hose tube, damn small ryt? and water pours in very slowly and that doesnt disturb the soil..
cuz when you pour in the water quickly, it will disturb the soil.. so water become muddy loh!

another way is.. take plastic bag, put ontop of soil.. then the water u pour ontop the plastic bag so it wont splash onto the soil..
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fill up ed, maybe still Abiiit muddy only, then u hafto wait lah, let the filter do its job.. after one day im sure it will clear up! patience my friend

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Ok Gotcha Plant 1st..
Then Slowly..
But If I Wanna Add Plant? Can I Still Plant Inside Water..
The Soil Really Cannot Wash Right?


I Wanna Make The Aquarium Looks Like Sifu Michanz wub.gif So Pretty~

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Give them some time. Just like waiting the shrimp to carry eggs and hatch the eggs lol. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Apr 4 2010, 03:54 PM)
Give them some time. Just like waiting the shrimp to carry eggs and hatch the eggs lol. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(~TheAngel~ @ Apr 4 2010, 02:51 PM)
Ok Gotcha Plant 1st..
Then Slowly..
But If I Wanna Add Plant? Can I Still Plant Inside Water..
The Soil Really Cannot Wash Right?
I Wanna Make The Aquarium Looks Like Sifu Michanz  wub.gif So Pretty~
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oh thank you blush.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

i added picture u see my previous post!
soil canot wash! it will wash all the fertilizer away

just have patience, some people took about 2hours JUST TO FILL THE AQUARIUM WITH WATER!!!
they fill the water in using the air tube hose.. my kencing also more high pressure!

QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Apr 4 2010, 02:54 PM)
Give them some time. Just like waiting the shrimp to carry eggs and hatch the eggs lol. laugh.gif
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2 of my shrimp berried liao! sohappyy


Added on April 4, 2010, 3:07 pm@the angel - here is a professional setting up an aquarium! if lazy read just see pictures...

http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/forumap...-journal-2.html

very good step by step on how to start and aquarium !

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QUOTE(michanz @ Apr 4 2010, 03:57 PM)
oh thank you  blush.gif   laugh.gif  laugh.gif

i added picture u see my previous post!
soil canot wash! it will wash all the fertilizer away

just have patience, some people took about 2hours JUST TO FILL THE AQUARIUM WITH WATER!!!
they fill the water in using the air tube hose.. my kencing also more high pressure!
2 of my shrimp berried liao! sohappyy


Added on April 4, 2010, 3:07 pm@the angel - here is a professional setting up an aquarium! if lazy read just see pictures...

http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/forumap...-journal-2.html

very good step by step on how to start and aquarium !
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I See Liao Sifu Michanz De Before N After Trim..
Let Me Try Tonight~


Added on April 4, 2010, 3:10 pmNice Setup rclxms.gif I'm Amazed..

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QUOTE(~TheAngel~ @ Apr 4 2010, 03:08 PM)
I See Liao Sifu Michanz De Before N After Trim..
Let Me Try Tonight~


Added on April 4, 2010, 3:10 pmNice Setup  rclxms.gif I'm Amazed..
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the link i give u.. read it all.. very good information there.. got everything.. fertilisation maintenance and everything... good guideline for new ppl tostart
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QUOTE(michanz @ Apr 4 2010, 04:12 PM)
the link i give u.. read it all.. very good information there.. got everything.. fertilisation maintenance and everything... good guideline for new ppl tostart
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Thanks Sifu Michanz Much Appreciated And Thanks To Chuppy~
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erk, something happen to my tank.... yesterday i fix the new filter... and caused water temp to 31 degree... this morning wake up
my tank water become milky... and alot of plant melt and moss become brownish T_T what happen !!!
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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Apr 4 2010, 04:32 PM)
erk, something happen to my tank.... yesterday i fix the new filter... and caused water temp to 31 degree... this morning wake up
my tank water become milky... and alot of plant melt and moss become brownish T_T what happen !!!
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1 of my plant oso like that~
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QUOTE(playerseeker @ Apr 3 2010, 03:37 PM)
i'll have taiwan moss and peacock moss when i restart my tank....but is infected by snails...hahaah...

anyone wans it??i'm still thinking to sell or give..

location will be in penang

hope to exchange or get other type of moss tho.. smile.gif
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Plant melt bcause temperature spike..

heat coming from an extra large impeller magnet running in that big filter
( heat issues noticable in cheapo canisters when compared to branded ones )

Also, I believe you toned down the canister by adjusting the nozzle right? that adds stress to the impeller + magnet hence more heat..

Cloudy most probably, Bacteria bloom .. New media??

Hope this helps
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QUOTE(michanz @ Apr 4 2010, 03:12 PM)
the link i give u.. read it all.. very good information there.. got everything.. fertilisation maintenance and everything... good guideline for new ppl tostart
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Oik, can I tag copyright ka Mic hahahaha!!!!!!

Suddenly see my APC thread and pics here LOL!!

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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Apr 4 2010, 03:32 PM)
erk, something happen to my tank.... yesterday i fix the new filter... and caused water temp to 31 degree... this morning wake up
my tank water become milky... and alot of plant melt and moss become brownish T_T what happen !!!
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see what chuppy type! hahaha

id say its ur new filter media! u got transfer old filter media into the new filter?

oya ask chuppy of his opinions on ur filter media. especially the corals

QUOTE(chuppy2 @ Apr 4 2010, 04:42 PM)
Plant melt bcause temperature spike..

heat coming from an extra large impeller magnet running in that big filter
( heat issues noticable in cheapo canisters when compared to branded ones )

Also, I believe you toned down the canister by adjusting the nozzle right? that adds stress to the impeller + magnet hence more heat..

Cloudy most probably, Bacteria bloom .. New media??

Hope this helps
Andrew


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Oik, can I tag copyright ka Mic hahahaha!!!!!!

Suddenly see my APC thread and pics here LOL!!

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ey ey i already reference ur name okay!!
and i said a "professional" punya step by step guide! hahahahaha

but seriously ur thread and pictures are the perfect examples and step by step complete guide for new people to learn!!

i started my planted tank based on your "tutorial" as well blush.gif blush.gif
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Somebody said CORAL??
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Man I miss my old reef tank hahaa..
OOT , not meant for this thread LOL, just sharing.

@Mic
Thanks Mic, not exactly a professional guide.. But it's a step-by-step thats for sure..
Glad it managed to help you out biggrin.gif

Was kidding when I mentioned copyrighting and stuff lol.

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i know it was a joke hehe

tell me to maintain a marine tank like that how much just for the ferts u need to keep the corals alive?
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QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Apr 4 2010, 12:39 PM)
@zoejehuty. hehe where got nice la. little 1ft tank only. i using canister filter. the mini size one, RESUN CY-20.

moss is easy to grow, but make sure u have cooler water to growth nicer.
set out outlet near the water surface la, but make sure dont not causing bubble with the water level u set.
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haha... sure nice compare to mine one...
hmm, i wanna get canister filter, but then dunno which and wat brand to get...
i like my moss now though, but then just hate the dead leaf part.
my water need to refill everyday, so if i put with water level will be very hard cause it will have bubble...
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Err didnt spend much on the 'ferts' lol..

In marine its not ferts liao.. its much more of micro foods , macro foods, zooplex etc. chemicals like strontrium, magnesium, calcium, iodine.. gotta maintain gh/kh, calcium, pH well, and most importantly.. NO copper haha..

First 3 months for that tank was bumpy..

4th months onwards, my water change regime is 30% every 3 months LOL!!!

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would love to go marine but wayy outta my budget!

gonna play cheap mosses and riccia oni la now sad.gif
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Michanz,

heres my take on the both lor..

Marine would have LESS maintenance than planted . but start-up is $$ .. tongue.gif

Have fun with moss and riccia.. invasive buggers lol!

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just bought a flourish nitrogen and phosphorus. rm36 each. 72 bucks gone. sad.gif
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I bought some riccia and java moss and put them into the tank.. but the shrimp become a bit sot sot 1??do you all directly put in new plant into tank??
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I do that... nothing wrong.. wait for experts to answer... Anyways, I found a bunch of Brazillian Microsword amonst my HM plant which is covered by algae but the sword is still nice.. replanted them... I thought they went extinct from my tank some time ago... oooo my amazon sword growing nicer.. all the leaves are above water surface one..
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QUOTE(michanz @ Apr 4 2010, 12:48 PM)
since u dont have any soil in ur tank ur only option would be java ferns and all other ferns and also mosses and riccia!
java fern
philiphine fern
bolbitis
mosses
riccia?

theyre all plants that dont need soil


Added on April 4, 2010, 12:53 pm@zoejehuty - where? which plant? o.O
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thanks michanz
will source those plants biggrin.gif

btw those plants in the tanks, should i remove them ?
coz they are planted on some driftwood and cover with very tiny stones and rocks only.
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Hi Sifusssss

Plan to have a planted Aquarium + shrimp + small fishes...( tight budget sad.gif )
Normally how much u guy spend on initial setup ?

Went through all threads regarding planted aquarium but still have no idea on certain stuff and equipment..
( Jounal by Sifu Chuppy was helpful. )

1) 3W x 1.5D x 1.5H or 2W x 1.5D x 2.5H Fisk Tank ( fongzai recomend ? price ? thickness ? )
2) Soil ( Amazonia, Amazonia Powder, M Powersand Special ? Can get all this in normal shop? Price ? )
Btw, what is and use of Penac W , Penac P , Clear Superx, Bacter 100, Tourmaline ??
3) Filter : Other than canister filter ? Price ?
4) driftwood ,stone,fish,shrimp,....

Will go on shopping tomorrow... cheers.. (What shop you guy recommend ? cheap MOSS,glossos )

Is this CRS u guy mean ?
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What species of this shrimp ? from Foxngn
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Nice setup from michanz & fongzai92
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just bought a flourish nitrogen and phosphorus. rm36 each. 72 bucks gone.

where you bought them? i just back from mid valley pet wonderland..
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Yes the red/white one is crs, the other is rcs

CRS
Crystal red shrimp

RCS
Red cherry shrimp.

How much ka? could range from rm 500 to 10k biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(chuppy2 @ Apr 4 2010, 06:35 PM)
Michanz,

heres my take on the both lor..

Marine would have LESS maintenance than planted . but start-up is $$ .. tongue.gif

Have fun with moss and riccia.. invasive buggers lol!

Andrew
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i have alot of time and energy but no money lolx

so planted tank was a no brainer laugh.gif

QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Apr 4 2010, 07:40 PM)
just bought a flourish nitrogen and phosphorus. rm36 each. 72 bucks gone. sad.gif
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its called INVESTMENT!!

and yeah like chuppy's old saying, dont count lol bad for the heart

QUOTE(wen30 @ Apr 4 2010, 09:24 PM)
I bought some riccia and java moss and put them into the tank.. but the shrimp become a bit sot sot 1??do you all directly put in new plant into tank??
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i put them in straight.. maybe ur hand got lotion or perfume make them sot sot

QUOTE(broken_string @ Apr 4 2010, 09:45 PM)
thanks michanz
will source those plants  biggrin.gif

btw those plants in the tanks, should i remove them ?
coz they are planted on some driftwood and cover with very tiny stones and rocks only.
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its up to u...if u like the plants keep em.. if u dunlike.. throw em allll heheh
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QUOTE(wen30 @ Apr 4 2010, 10:16 PM)
QUOTE(fongzai92)
just bought a flourish nitrogen and phosphorus. rm36 each. 72 bucks gone.

where you bought them? i just back from mid valley pet wonderland..
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i bought from sunwaymas 88petsmart.


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QUOTE(chiewming @ Apr 4 2010, 10:07 PM)
Hi Sifusssss

Plan to have a planted Aquarium + shrimp + small fishes...( tight budget sad.gif )
Normally how much u guy spend on initial setup ?

Went through all threads regarding planted aquarium but still have no idea on certain stuff and equipment..
( Jounal by Sifu Chuppy was helpful. )

1) 3W x 1.5D x 1.5H or 2W x 1.5D x 2.5H  Fisk Tank ( fongzai recomend ? price ? thickness ? )
2) Soil ( Amazonia, Amazonia Powder, M Powersand Special ? Can get all this in normal shop? Price ? )
Btw, what is and use of Penac W , Penac P , Clear Superx, Bacter 100, Tourmaline  ??
3) Filter : Other than canister filter ? Price ?
4) driftwood ,stone,fish,shrimp,....

Will go on shopping tomorrow... cheers.. (What shop you guy recommend ? cheap MOSS,glossos )

Is this CRS u guy mean ?
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What species of this shrimp ? from Foxngn
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Nice setup from michanz & fongzai92
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hi ! welcome to the club !
my cant call beautiful yet. try search and view chuppy's tank.. his only true nice i tell u.. with all the top brand equipments drool.gif


Added on April 4, 2010, 10:44 pmhaha.. this hobby can easily hits up to 500 bucks with a pressurized co2 tank.


Added on April 4, 2010, 10:45 pmhey michanz ! why our thread have no small pictures one ? at the " pets wonderland " page.

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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Apr 4 2010, 12:08 AM)
u see the num 7 from the kwzone catalogue... the inlet... the longer place actually there have 2 hose... means can expand it longer and shorter... even i have expand that size with the Diffuser Inlet already more than 1 feet... my tank height 1 feet only... so u know what i mean... and the inlet have 2 hose to expand the outside that 1 is connect from the inlet and the inside that 1 is connect the diffuser... >.> if i dont want that hose i straight put the diffuser also cannot put it in..

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i also using 3388 filter... this is what i did to my inlet pipe..

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i didnt chop any part la.. jz didnt use the long intake pipe... replaced it with some what similar diameter pipe... but whenever got no suction (such as power failure), the intake pipe will drop down... haha... 2 of my guppies lost already, mayb inside the canister filter now...
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i also using 3388 filter... this is what i did to my inlet pipe..



i didnt chop any part la.. jz didnt use the long intake pipe... replaced it with some what similar diameter pipe... but whenever got no suction (such as power failure), the intake pipe will drop down... haha... 2 of my guppies lost already, mayb inside the canister filter now...

you use africana? my africana like pucat pucat 1...

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chuppy's journal will be your guide.. but that if u ave a deep pocket.. especially for his soil arrangements!
1) ur tank custom made to those specs id say from rm50 - 70
2) all those soils id say for a 2footer would be rm400 ? o.O
-amazonia soil - RM88 for 9L ( need atleast 9Lfor 2ft, yes got 3L bag aswell )
-amzonia powder - rm128++ for 9L (since u have 9L of soil, u need just a layer of powder - rm60++ fr 3L bag) price varies btw
-Powersand - ini arond rm40 i think enuff edi
-Penac W
PENAC W is a substrate additive. It prevents the substrate from becoming anaerobic and improves the substrate environment.
http://www.adana.co.jp/_e_product/176_index.html

-Penac P
It is a substrate additive for improving the soil. It helps plants to spread the roots and grow healthy
http://www.adana.co.jp/_e_product/175_index.html

-Clear Super
It is a substrate additive made from activated carbon and organic acid. Clear Super helps the growth of microorganisms. By sprinkling on the base substrate, it promotes the growth of microorganisms in the substrate, and stabilizes the substrate environment.
http://www.adana.co.jp/_e_product/177_index.html

-Bacter 100
More than 100 different kinds of bacteria are inside Bacter 100 in a dormant state. Those bacteria form microorganism layer inside the substrate. To be applied at the bottom of the substrate at initial setup, or for restraining the growth of blue-green algae, sprinkle directly on the algae.
http://www.adana.co.jp/_e_product/97_index.html

-Tourmaline
Tourmaline is a mineral emitting fait electricity, and has an effect to activate the water. Tourmaline F is a mineral compound of iron, aluminum, sodium, boron, which are gradually dissolved into the water, and promotes the plant growth. Just put Tourmaline F in the net inside the canister filter.Effect/ Improvement of water condition, Activation of microorganisms, Mineral supplement
Material/ Tourmaline
http://www.adana.co.jp/_e_product/57_index.html

3) canister EHEIM would be in the rm300 if china brand would be from rm130 - rm190
4) drifwood cost from rm5 - rm80 each
Stones from rm5/kg to rm20/kg to rm12 per rock too
Shrimps like the CRS from rm7 onwards RCS around rm1.20 to some kingkong shrimps that could sell up to rm400 a piece lol

enjoy shopping!

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cb evrybody ask me why no pictures!!

u scroll up read the notice Red karer!

so icant upload any images leh intothe Thumbnail

fox when u quote people with pictue kasi cb spoiler

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@fongzai rm500? mana cukup! tank soil equipments lights hardscape co2 easily rm1k

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for my cheapo humble 1ft mahh... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Apr 4 2010, 11:18 PM)
for my cheapo humble 1ft mahh... laugh.gif
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for 1 feet rm500

for 2 feet rm500 x 2 = rm1000 lo hahah

but i think chuppy spend rm1k just for lights and filter lolx

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walaneh..

My 3feet..

Equipments tally if you guys must really know

Lighting set-up
RM 200 (2nd hand)

Lighting tubes
ADA Mh rm 4xx + PL36wx4 Rm 200 = rm 600

Tank - rm 3xx

Substrate system
4xx

Filter + chiller(2nd hand chiller)
Rm 1xxx

Cabinet + racking(2nd hand)
Rm 4xx

Wiring and modifications
Rm 1xx

That does not involve the ferts, fish and plants. but lets forget about that.

Hope that helps lol.


Added on April 4, 2010, 11:49 pmMost of my equipments are customed, hcne the price tag.

Cheers

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rm3000 for equipment

hardscape/soil/plants/accesories/fauna

another 1k perhaps lolx!

ur name mentioned on good things wat! biggrin.gif

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lol... i started want to have minimum budget... endup poison by michanzz

this is what i get

2 feet tank RM35
canister rm 180
ADA Malayan rm 88
co2 tank rm 150 + rm67 manual regulator
bubble counter rm 10
co2 diffuser rm18
55watt pll light rm 38
mini computer fan rm 10

this only the equipment...
~.~ cost me rm 568
im going to rescape soon cost another pack of rm88 amazonia lolz !!
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Is co2 tank necessary or must ??

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QUOTE(chiewming @ Apr 5 2010, 12:51 AM)
Is co2 tank necessary or must ??
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co2 to plants are like oxygen to human!

theres plenty of co2 in the atmosphere, but theres not much in water

co2 tanks actually supplies the plant with co2 underwater
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opppss... forgotten natural need....
Plant produce o2....

But if i got plenty of fish...? But common sense, it wilnt enuf for those plant....

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yea. or maybe u can start with DIY one first !
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QUOTE(chiewming @ Apr 5 2010, 12:58 AM)
opppss... forgotten natural need....
Plant produce o2....

But if i got plenty of fish...? But common sense, it wilnt enuf for those plant....
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yeap plants take in co2 and produces oxygen

total opposite of a human

QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Apr 5 2010, 01:00 AM)
yea. or maybe u can start with DIY one first !
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Guyz, is co2 tank needed for setup below ??

http://www.flickr.com/photos/viktorlantos/3081326141/

Got plenty of fishes werr..

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QUOTE(chiewming @ Apr 5 2010, 01:05 AM)
Guyz, is co2 tank needed for setup below ??

http://www.greenleafaquariums.com/planted-...um-gallery.html

Got plenty of fishes werr..
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yeap! all of em need co2 tanks.. but u see in the pictures there noco2 or filter equipments because they take it out for photoshoots..

for the fishes, actually when we introduce co2 into the tank, we inntroduce only certain levels of co2 into the tank.. how do we check the levels? basically with a CO2 DROP CHECKER
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sory big image lol

the liquid in the drop checker will show u what the levels of co2 in the tank by looking at the color of the liquid!

we control basically by the BPS method, Bubbles Per Second. some tanks only need about 0.5bps and some tanks go up to 5bps!

with this we control the co2 input and still have enough oxygen in the water column for the fishies!
and dont forget, the plants too will produce oxygen for the fishies!

here it is.. we call it "pearling"
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if no mistake. i diy for 3 months.
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QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Apr 5 2010, 01:18 AM)
if no mistake. i diy for 3 months.
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who la poison u to get co2tank
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Ur DIY meaning stage by stage or equipment by equipment ??
1 yr for michanz seem abit long...
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QUOTE(chiewming @ Apr 5 2010, 01:21 AM)
Ur DIY meaning stage by stage or equipment by equipment ??
1 yr for michanz seem abit long...
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diy is actually Do-it-Yourself co2..

while now I use co2 tank
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DIY is actually mixing Yeast with sugar which its reaction when mix will release co2!so we do this
user posted image

for some who cant afford to get a rm300 co2 pressurized tank, they DIY by mixing 2cup of sugar and 1spooon of yeast, pour into a bottle, let the chemical reaction produce co2! and voila! harvest that co2 and direct it into the tank

so yeah ive been using the DIY method for a year before i actually went out and bought co2tank

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the poison spreader is u la michanz. keep show of your aluminium tank....
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QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Apr 5 2010, 01:31 AM)
the poison spreader is u la michanz. keep show of your aluminium tank....
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hahahaha siok man poison you with co2tank and poison freestyler with co2tank + canister filter! laugh.gif laugh.gif
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i should poison u what....... perhaps.... an IPHONEE !!!!


Added on April 5, 2010, 1:35 amtime to revive this photo..

2L one.. HOHOHOH !!
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QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Apr 5 2010, 01:33 AM)
i should poison u what....... perhaps.... an IPHONEE !!!!
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aaah im not a gadget person.. the only gadget someone could poison me with is a fleshlight


Added on April 5, 2010, 1:39 am
QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Apr 5 2010, 01:33 AM)
i should poison u what....... perhaps.... an IPHONEE !!!!


Added on April 5, 2010, 1:35 amtime to revive this photo..

2L one.. HOHOHOH !![
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ewww! cream color! u should buy like mine... ALUMINIUM! more yeng ok

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The co2 tank refillable ??
tmr going 88petsmart...Any1 is going ?
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QUOTE(chiewming @ Apr 5 2010, 01:39 AM)
The co2 tank refillable ??
tmr going 88petsmart...Any1 is going ?
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fongzai lives in that area lolz! go meet him up! if im free i might go lol! what time u going

it is refillable! rm30 onwards depend on size of tank

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heh.. 4x of ur capacity. i rather cream !
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QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Apr 5 2010, 01:44 AM)
heh.. 4x of ur capacity. i rather cream !
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im hiding it lol ! time to slp. cya !
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you use africana? my africana like pucat pucat 1...
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yeap... africana... at first i wanted amazonia... but the seller bought the wrong one for me... hantam only la... laugh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(chiewming @ Apr 5 2010, 01:39 AM)
The co2 tank refillable ??
tmr going 88petsmart...Any1 is going ?
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yes... co2 tank is refillable... i jz refilled mine last week... got it jz now... rm50 fly... cry.gif
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Apr 5 2010, 02:17 AM)
yeap... africana... at first i wanted amazonia... but the seller bought the wrong one for me... hantam only la...  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
yes... co2 tank is refillable... i jz refilled mine last week... got it jz now... rm50 fly...  cry.gif
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WUAH! how big ur tank refill until rm50
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hey, ask something, the canister filter right, which one better? the Taiyo or Ejet?
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* Poke * Michanzz... i only diy for 1 month... then get Co2 tank... cause u poison me... T_T cannot liao later i want poison u with chiller !! hahahah !!
zoejehunty = about the taiyo or ejet, i only using ejet now 3rd days so far so good... silent~~ lolz im using JET3388 for 2 feet lolz !! Cyclone =X
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just bought the soil and extra lighting..

hmm..anyone knows where can we buy cheap driftwood...hha...KW's is expensive!!
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Driftwood every where also around that price... those with super nice shape dw all range from rm 9.90 to rm50 or more...
if you want cheap dw rm 5 per piece those dw is in big sizes... ugly lolz...
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QUOTE(zoejehuty @ Apr 5 2010, 07:42 AM)
hey, ask something, the canister filter right, which one better? the Taiyo or Ejet?
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most of use here are using EJET lolz!! theyre just about the same price la.. i bought JET brand cuz looks more yeng hahahahahahah

QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Apr 5 2010, 07:47 AM)
* Poke * Michanzz... i only diy for 1 month... then get Co2 tank... cause u poison me... T_T cannot liao later i want poison u with chiller !! hahahah !!
zoejehunty = about the taiyo or ejet, i only using ejet now 3rd days so far so good... silent~~ lolz im using JET3388 for 2 feet lolz !! Cyclone =X
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my temperature constant at 23 / 24 degrees u want me put chiller to make it how cold? hehe

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hahaha, i see lot pics here....
http://yujin-ong.blogspot.com/search/label/aquascaping
my scaping journal since day 1, but sorry, all in mandarin tongue.gif
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My water temp suddenly increased..I just set up a new eihiem 2213.. it produce a bit buzzing sound and im sure that i already remove all of the air bubble.. is that buzzing sound indicade something is wrong and the problem is producing the heat?
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QUOTE(Adremier @ Apr 5 2010, 10:26 AM)
My water temp suddenly increased..I just set up a new eihiem 2213.. it produce a bit buzzing sound and im sure that i already remove all of the air bubble.. is that buzzing sound indicade something is wrong and the problem is producing the heat?
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usually when something buzzes around id giv it a firm but light kick shake it alil that usually works for me..

the temperature spike might be cased by the filter, as the buzzing shows that there friction somewhere..

adremier do post ur co2tank picture and explain whats the problem here.. theres afew here who uses solenoid regulator... they might be more helpful than me since i have no experience with solenoid regulator


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Ok michanz, got to take the pic first .
Might try to dissemble the folder and check if something is clogging the rotor.. thanks.

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Anyone wanna buy JET3388 for rm 160? i just used it for 3 days, reason of selling because its too big for my 2 feet tank... with the media and all accessories... one of the hose i cut to half already due to too long...
COD only...1200 liter / hour...
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QUOTE(Adremier @ Apr 5 2010, 10:53 AM)
Ok michanz, got to take the pic first .
Might try to dissemble the folder and check if something is clogging the rotor.. thanks.
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Anyone wanna buy JET3388 for rm 160? i just used it for 3 days, reason of selling because its too big for my 2 feet tank... with the media and all accessories... one of the hose i cut to half already due to too long...
COD only...1200 liter / hour...
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i afraid that my moss already affected by the temp spike... sad.gif its start to turn brownish now sad.gif
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QUOTE(Adremier @ Apr 5 2010, 12:00 PM)
i afraid that my moss already affected by the temp spike... sad.gif its start to turn brownish now sad.gif
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only one way! pour ice into the tank..serious!

a temporary solution till u get you problems solved
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I just ran a fan over the tank this morning..
hope that it will cool down a bit tonight..
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QUOTE(Adremier @ Apr 5 2010, 12:22 PM)
I just ran a fan over the tank this morning..
hope that it will cool down a bit tonight..
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QUOTE(michanz @ Apr 5 2010, 02:27 AM)
WUAH! how big ur tank refill until rm50
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2kg capacity only.. haha.. here refill in melaka expensive laa... unlike u guys in KL so cheap... sad.gif

QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Apr 5 2010, 07:47 AM)
* Poke * Michanzz... i only diy for 1 month... then get Co2 tank... cause u poison me... T_T cannot liao later i want poison u with chiller !! hahahah !!
zoejehunty = about the taiyo or ejet, i only using ejet now 3rd days so far so good... silent~~ lolz im using JET3388 for 2 feet lolz !! Cyclone =X
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QUOTE(michanz @ Apr 5 2010, 10:07 AM)
my temperature constant at 23 / 24 degrees u want me put chiller to make it how cold? hehe
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QUOTE(chiewming @ Apr 5 2010, 12:40 PM)
Going 88petsmart later 1pm.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Apr 5 2010, 12:42 PM)
2kg capacity only.. haha.. here refill in melaka expensive laa... unlike u guys in KL so cheap... sad.gif
i also using JET3388 for 2ft tank... everyday go create tornado inside...  tongue.gif
lansi nya... sleep.gif
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he has temperature issues, maybe u can help him a little on how u maintain the temp

p/s it may sound arrogant. but we're just joking around. we joke around like that in msn and i guess until here with him..
pardon me for my arrogance
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QUOTE(michanz @ Apr 5 2010, 12:50 PM)
he has temperature issues, maybe u can help him a little on how u maintain the temp

p/s it may sound arrogant. but we're just joking around. we joke around like that in msn and i guess until here with him..
pardon me for my arrogance
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Expensive filter also got temp issue... damn shock... is there any possibility that it was caused by the filter media..

This the filter media that i use..

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «



i already rinse the debris from the media..


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Still have 4 more hours to go home.... i wonder what happen to my tank..
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it will look lovely smile.gif lol last time i every night oso worried abt my fish...
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kenneth. ordered the tank. estimate will done at saturday. but i think will be earlier coz he always is the same.
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QUOTE(michanz @ Apr 5 2010, 12:50 PM)
pm foxngn maybe he's free
he has temperature issues, maybe u can help him a little on how u maintain the temp

p/s it may sound arrogant. but we're just joking around. we joke around like that in msn and i guess until here with him..
pardon me for my arrogance
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anyone know where have the calculator on net about tank volume and the filter power liter / hour?
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well, ur teacher did teach you how to calculate volume...
Length x Depth x Height

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lol...free styler... u r new rite? agree wif pinch, counting tank volume is easy and filter power liter/hour is written on the filter itself normally... if not on the box.. anyway here is the aquarium calculator i frequently use:http://animal-world.com/encyclo/information/calculate.htm


Added on April 5, 2010, 5:15 pmlol bringing up this topic again... how to stop soil from "leaking" out of sand if i put a layer of sand on top of soil? early preperation... the next time im going to a LFS with planted tank supplies maybe AUGUST... zadou...

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I think what he mean is not how to calculate the volume, but how to calculate the optimum flow of each aquarium size. Correct me if i'm wrong..

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QUOTE(Adremier @ Apr 5 2010, 10:26 AM)
My water temp suddenly increased..I just set up a new eihiem 2213.. it produce a bit buzzing sound and im sure that i already remove all of the air bubble.. is that buzzing sound indicade something is wrong and the problem is producing the heat?
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The buzzying sound, I think it's because of trapped air inside the canister. Keep your canister running and slowly tilt the canister at all directions for a few times. should solve your problem.

AFter that, you'll be surprice how silent a Eheim canister runs...so quiet you dont know it's working unless you feel it with your hands. biggrin.gif

And...filter medias DO NOT cause increase in tank water temperature. Any type of motor, be it eheim or not eheim, will produce heat, it's PHYSICS!.

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But even the motor is heating the water... it wont produce that much heat i think.. i have the same canister filter before, but it is producing this kind of heat sad.gif
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QUOTE(Adremier @ Apr 5 2010, 05:28 PM)
I think what he mean is not how to calculate the volume, but how to calculate the optimum flow of each aquarium size. Correct me if i'm wrong..
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same concept as how a kettle boils water.. friction in the motor produces heat energy which is transferred into tank water...


Added on April 5, 2010, 5:54 pmok.. wats wrong wif my acc?? why i post here the post count wont increase???

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~.~ Sorry Ben, really lazy please feed me...
2 feet tank need max how much liter per hour needed for Canister?
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Apr 5 2010, 06:51 PM)
same concept as how a kettle boils water.. friction in the motor produces heat energy which is transferred into tank water...


Added on April 5, 2010, 5:54 pmok.. wats wrong wif my acc?? why i post here the post count wont increase???
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dun ask me for answer, im an irresponsible noobie... I read adi but pets wonderland posts are counted. for example presario316 85% of his post is in pets wonderland all counted
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Apr 5 2010, 07:13 PM)
dun ask me for answer, im an irresponsible noobie... I read adi but pets wonderland posts are counted. for example presario316 85% of his post is in pets wonderland all counted
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My temp highest is ard 27.8 and mange to keep my CRS alive.

I use a mixture of Eheim filter medium combine with ADA filter medium so i get a much filtered medium as Eheim is bigger rounds then the ADA pebble like ones.

Coldest for my CRS is ard 22.5.

Anyone could tell me the electricity consumption for a chiller?
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Apr 5 2010, 05:51 PM)
same concept as how a kettle boils water.. friction in the motor produces heat energy which is transferred into tank water...


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Lol, I know about the heat distribution thingy .. But does not one of the reason to use canister filter because it produce less heat than the in tank power head pump?
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yea and that canister is more professional looking rather than a bulky piece of something in the tank...
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QUOTE(Foxngn @ Apr 5 2010, 04:36 PM)
Duh... u think i no need to work meh.
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fongzai! hahah sorry salah type name! sorry aaaaa

QUOTE(BenSow @ Apr 5 2010, 05:51 PM)
same concept as how a kettle boils water.. friction in the motor produces heat energy which is transferred into tank water...


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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Apr 5 2010, 05:59 PM)
~.~ Sorry Ben, really lazy please feed me...
2 feet tank need max how much liter per hour needed for Canister?
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okay 2feet tank is basicallly 6liters, and chuppy said in previous post need 60liter x 6 = 360l/h


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QUOTE(Adremier @ Apr 5 2010, 06:33 PM)
Lol, I know about the heat distribution thingy .. But does not one of the reason to use canister filter because it produce less heat than the in tank power head pump?
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i think owners of eheim never had problems with heat! i think its your canister oni

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for the last time its 2~6x LOL!!

As pinch said, just take height x width x depth

For 2 feeter, Well this is my own favourite formula.. just count them in CM

60cm(2ft) x 30cm x 30cm (1ft) = 54 000 divided by 1000 = 54Litres

So round that upwards to 60litre, and multiply by your preference to filter l/h strength. As MICHANZ mentioned, around 360 l/h would be nice.

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sad la whenever saw u guys all 2ft 3ft 2ft 3ft.. i still have to tolerance with 1ft... sad.gif
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dude i am on 1 1/2 ft, its that bad,

i have 2 eheims running filter on it. its a goood size i reckon.

if i were to get another tank, it will be at least 2ft max or less. its like mini aquarium
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fongzai, dont need to be sad, those who could actually scape a 2feeter well are the true masters. O.O

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Added on April 5, 2010, 9:15 pmFor better ADA substrate set-up, here
http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/forumap...ew-iwagumi.html

Cheers

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QUOTE(chuppy2 @ Apr 5 2010, 10:06 PM)
fongzai, dont need to be sad, those who could actually scape a 2feeter well are the true masters. O.O

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Added on April 5, 2010, 9:15 pmFor better ADA substrate set-up, here
http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/forumap...ew-iwagumi.html

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QUOTE(chuppy2 @ Apr 5 2010, 08:43 PM)
for the last time its 2~6x LOL!!

As pinch said, just take height x width x depth

For 2 feeter, Well this is my own favourite formula.. just count them in CM

60cm(2ft) x 30cm x 30cm (1ft) = 54 000 divided by 1000 = 54Litres

So round that upwards to 60litre, and multiply by your preference to filter l/h strength. As MICHANZ mentioned, around 360 l/h would be nice.

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sad la whenever saw u guys all 2ft 3ft 2ft 3ft.. i still have to tolerance with 1ft... sad.gif
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Eleocharis vivipara..

VERY VERY ANNOYING PLANT lol.. high maintenance like hell

Common name : tall hairgrass

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wow iwagumi! the tank still keeping ? or did rescape long time ago~


Added on April 5, 2010, 11:04 pmhow tall hairgrass hard to maintain ?

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fongzai... im sad... you can maintain well ur 1 feet tank.. i mean grew healthy... me 2 feet? shit man... now whole tanks is BBA...
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this is the final form of that threads iwagumi tank..

Nope it's not around anymore. the rocks seen here are already in use in my 3feeter hehehe.

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my diy co2 only worked well for 1st time.. this time the co2 out a while then stop then out a while... my shrimp really sot d.. they like scratching all over.. is that ick problem?
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@chuppy. what kind of carpet is that ? sooo thick !!
@kennth. take times to form a green green tank one.. mine about 4 months old.
@wen30. list out your recipe of the diy co2.
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@wen30. list out your recipe of the diy co2.

2 cup sugar 1/2 spoon yeast 1 liter water

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wa.. looks like too much yeast leh. have u use WARM water ? helps to produce co2 faster.
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1/2 spoon yeast <-- there you go...

you should put 1/2 TEA Spoon... not normal Spoon...
I Repeat... TEA TEA TEA !!! SPOON

got it?

xD

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hi guys,

some guy wanna sell me his co2 1litre tank for rm150. It comes with manual regulator. Worth or not ?

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2 cup sugar 1/2 spoon yeast 1 liter water
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which spoon u use?

teaspoon? or tablespoon?
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LOL, never saw that coming..
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It's HC carpet.. grew too thick. timed it badly for the iaplc photoshoot.

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QUOTE(cashandburn @ Apr 6 2010, 08:37 AM)
hi guys,

some guy wanna sell me his co2 1litre tank for rm150. It comes with manual regulator. Worth or not ?
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yeap , it's worth... manual regulator itself.. already cost rm 70++ so the tank rm100 it's cheap... anyway better check have leakage or not 1st...
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LOL, never saw that coming..
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yeap , it's worth... manual regulator itself.. already cost rm 70++  so the tank rm100 it's cheap... anyway better check have leakage or not 1st...
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hehe.. still waiting on the fate of my CO tank.. Hope i can use it sooner..
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QUOTE(Adremier @ Apr 6 2010, 10:14 AM)
hehe.. still waiting on the fate of my CO tank.. Hope i can use it sooner..
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sent it to the shop?

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Planning to send it , but no time.. busy at work..


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how do you check for leakage ??? I've been using DIY Co2 all this while. Wanna migrate liau to tank version ...
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Not sure how, but maybe simple soap and water test will do the trick?
If there is any leakage, it will bubble up
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how i did was take a bucket of water and fill it up, then dunk the whole thing in the water and see where the leak is..close all the knobs 1st tho
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Thanks for the info.....Gonna check the tank once I got my hands on it.

Noticed my tank is kinda murky.....I dosed super k and brighty step 1 yesterday. I suspect the potassium is reacting towards the fert...... Would it be a good idea letting the dust settle ? Or should I take some activated carbon and suck it all up ?
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QUOTE(chuppy2 @ Apr 5 2010, 11:33 PM)
fongzai,
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this is the final form of that threads iwagumi tank..

Nope it's not around anymore. the rocks seen here are already in use in my 3feeter hehehe.

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QUOTE(cashandburn @ Apr 6 2010, 12:06 PM)
Thanks for the info.....Gonna check the tank once I got my hands on it.

Noticed my tank is kinda murky.....I dosed super k and brighty step 1 yesterday. I suspect the potassium is reacting towards the fert...... Would it be a good idea letting the dust settle ? Or should I take some activated carbon and suck it all up ?
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QUOTE(cashandburn @ Apr 6 2010, 12:06 PM)
Thanks for the info.....Gonna check the tank once I got my hands on it.

Noticed my tank is kinda murky.....I dosed super k and brighty step 1 yesterday. I suspect the potassium is reacting towards the fert...... Would it be a good idea letting the dust settle ? Or should I take some activated carbon and suck it all up ?
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what mean murky?
super k + step 1, no prob..
i used brighty K + Step 1 also like tat only...
bacteria boom?
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maybe.....not enuf Co2?... I'll see a few more days to make a more accurate judgement...getting my tank co2 soon....i'll see how it goes this week and the next ...


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not a true iwagumi pinch.. lol. Cause of the stemmies tongue.gif


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or maybe the co2 mixture accidently got into the water
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Did he use DIY CO2 reactor?

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QUOTE(michanz @ Apr 6 2010, 10:17 AM)
sent it to the shop?

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its my idea+dreaming tanks look !!! carpet + a tree ! trimless also ? rclxms.gif

where u got this michanz !
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I'm using DIY reactor...connected to a powerhead to mash the CO2 bubbles together.
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QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Apr 6 2010, 02:10 PM)
its my idea+dreaming tanks look !!! carpet + a tree ! trimless also ?  rclxms.gif

where u got this michanz !
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haha kenneth. how was the fissiden ? michanz ? growing well or ?
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haha kenneth. how was the fissiden ? michanz ? growing well or ?
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I'm using DIY reactor...connected to a powerhead to mash the CO2 bubbles together.
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take a picture of ur tank show us!

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my fissident growing well too... but alot algae now hahah...

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kenneth got ur new filter edi ornot
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no time go change la... going to change this sunday... later 10:30pm taking bus to Kuala Terengganu.. tomorrow will at Redang xD
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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Apr 6 2010, 02:50 PM)
no time go change la... going to change this sunday... later 10:30pm taking bus to Kuala Terengganu.. tomorrow will at Redang xD
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@michanz. YALA.. that time u 2 never Share with me sad.gif
@kenneth, hopefully your tank will be nothing after ur honey moon at redang. tongue.gif
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Maybe can find some drift batang burok there tongue.gif

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QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Apr 6 2010, 02:52 PM)
@michanz. YALA.. that time u 2 never Share with me sad.gif
@kenneth, hopefully your tank will be nothing after ur honey moon at redang. tongue.gif
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Maybe can find some drift batang burok there tongue.gif
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batang without miramo balls, still no meaning for that biggrin.gif
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marimo balls rm30 each crazy
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haha... diy with moss lo.. HAHAHHAHAA..

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QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Apr 6 2010, 03:11 PM)
haha... diy with moss lo.. HAHAHHAHAA..

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Where can i find marimo ball?
can i spread it and put it on drift wood?
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fongzai... sorry la... i dont even know u yet that time... cause michanzz help me by give me alot of plant ma... so when i got i also will share with him lor...
but no worry la... from now on u also in my list as sharing list haha =P

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haha.. then got to thanks u 1st...

@michanz. pingpong will float laaa... use some small stone with circle shape.. biggrin.gif
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Dont need to thanks... sharing and encouraging each other in order to grow more PRO !! haha xD

as long as next time u have good plant then share abit will do =P
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QUOTE(chuppy2 @ Apr 6 2010, 01:44 PM)
not a true iwagumi pinch.. lol. Cause of the stemmies tongue.gif
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haha, while we're talking about iwagumis. they're talking about marimo and hairy balls.. wth.


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QUOTE(Adremier @ Apr 6 2010, 03:17 PM)
Where can i find marimo ball?
can i spread it and put it on drift wood?
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spred on driftwood? not sure tho
ask freestylr to spread on his diftwood see his dw later got grow balls on i ornot lah

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haha, while we're talking about iwagumis. they're talking about marimo and hairy balls.. wth.
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both sounds kinky to me hahahah

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my tank now have some tall plants on the back (i think its rotala something) and hcs on the front. I plant to get a plant that can go between the two. Something taller than hcs but shorter than rotala. What plant do you guys think will look nice ? Was thinking of riccia....
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my bba problem still there even i reduced the lighting period..


Added on April 6, 2010, 7:49 pma healthy hairgrass should be deep green right ? my like light green in colour.. how come..??

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Reducing lighting would not remove BBA bro.. BBA try INcreasing C02
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1ft tank
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what is the recommend co2 output...?

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QUOTE(cashandburn @ Apr 6 2010, 07:13 PM)
my tank now have some tall plants on the back (i think its rotala something) and hcs on the front. I plant to get a plant that can go between the two. Something taller than hcs but shorter than rotala. What plant do you guys think will look nice ? Was thinking of riccia....
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my bba problem still there even i reduced the lighting period..


Added on April 6, 2010, 7:49 pma healthy hairgrass should be deep green right ? my like light green in colour.. how come..??
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Reducing lighting would not remove BBA bro.. BBA try INcreasing C02
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6 SAEs will sapu all my shrimps also sad.gif

just order a custom acrylic stand for my DIY lighting biggrin.gif

and asked about the acrylic tubes to create lily pipe. the boss said himself dont even try to bend acrylic before.. lol..
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Try 2bps, slowly increasing bit by bit.. untill you see your fish suffocating then you'll know it's too much..

What does your drop checker tell u??

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QUOTE(chuppy2 @ Apr 6 2010, 11:41 PM)
Try 2bps, slowly increasing bit by bit.. untill you see your fish suffocating then you'll know it's too much..

What does your drop checker tell u??

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ya. always show yellow all the time. damn it.

but 25L tank with 2bps, will it TOO MUCH !?
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QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Apr 7 2010, 12:01 AM)
ya. always show yellow all the time. damn it.

but 25L tank with 2bps, will it TOO MUCH !?
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If that's the case, use the fishes as a gauge..

No it wont be too much.

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Added on April 7, 2010, 7:26 amOf course, unless your tank is empty and no plants. then really too much

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my sae i have 6 never kacau my shrimp! they just push them aside when they wana feed on tat particular patch! lolx! try get 1 or 2 first lah
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woooo.... damn! No time dy for my tank sad.gif Budget for tank not so good this year, all went to diving dy sad.gif damn damn damn So now only have Anubias nana petit & clover.. no need to jaga. CO2 also forgot to refill

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later la... I take wiff my new cam wakakakakak now at work la
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just got the excel. rdy to boom the bba.. anything need to be careful.
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QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Apr 7 2010, 06:20 PM)
just got the excel. rdy to boom the bba.. anything need to be careful.
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can you guide on how to spot dose?
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Moss's sifu.. may i know,

1)if the moss turn to brown colour, it means it is dead or still alive but not healthy...

2)if it is not healthy, can i "revive it" by adding ADA soil, and 36W lighting for 12 hours per day and maintain the water temperature at 26 celcious
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QUOTE(Adremier @ Apr 7 2010, 06:59 PM)
can you guide on how to spot dose?
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ive never done it before but basically from what i understand is, off ur filter first, so the water stays calm. then take a syringe, then squirt it straight to the BBA.. off the lights during this time i think.. yeah thats basically it.. wait awhile then can on back ur filter.. then do it once a day till the bba goes white.. it goes white right? that im not sure.. then it will magically dissapear! dont overdose no good for shrimps
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Moss's sifu.. may i know,

1)if the moss turn to brown colour, it means it is dead or still alive but not healthy...

2)if it is not healthy, can i "revive it" by adding ADA soil, and 36W lighting for 12 hours per day and maintain the water temperature at 26 celcious
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usually when mine turns brown, it doesnt go back to green.. new 1 grows green and the previous brown/black doesnt grow green back sad.gif

lights 8hours.

mossses are low light low maintenance plant, people have experience mosses growing with just little light and no soil no ferts too..
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QUOTE(spirit of demon @ Apr 7 2010, 07:03 PM)
Moss's sifu.. may i know,

1)if the moss turn to brown colour, it means it is dead or still alive but not healthy...

2)if it is not healthy, can i "revive it" by adding ADA soil, and 36W lighting for 12 hours per day and maintain the water temperature at 26 celcious
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What kind of moss?

as usual.. in what situation your moss turn brown ? is that part of moss is beneath other new grown moss ?

Soil won't do anything to the moss. How serious or how big portion is the moss turn brown ?
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okies. just shooted the bba ass off. lol. wait 30min then on back light and co2.
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QUOTE(michanz @ Apr 7 2010, 07:17 PM)

usually when mine turns brown, it doesnt go back to green.. new 1 grows green and the previous brown/black doesnt grow green back sad.gif

lights 8hours.

mossses are low light low maintenance plant, people have experience mosses growing with just little light and no soil no ferts too..
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oo.. that is bad... seems like no hope d...

QUOTE(Foxngn @ Apr 7 2010, 07:18 PM)
What kind of moss?

as usual.. in what situation your moss turn brown ? is that part of moss is beneath other new grown moss ?

Soil won't do anything to the moss. How serious or how big portion is the moss turn brown ?
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this is not my moss... my friend pass it to me...
the whole portion is brown colour.. He said he used it to keep betta.. and the moss is keep in the black water and without any lights.... So, got any hope to revive it?
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QUOTE(spirit of demon @ Apr 7 2010, 09:11 PM)
oo.. that is bad... seems like no hope d...
this is not my moss... my friend pass it to me...
the whole portion is brown colour.. He said he used it to keep betta.. and the moss is keep in the black water and without any lights.... So, got any hope to revive it?
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it should be if you leave it at its suitable environment, as its brown leaf will sprout out new leaf also.
I heard example that some ppl throw their moss outside their house drain, after a few months of shiny & rainy days, the brown/rotten moss had sprout out new leaf.

Well, that's just what i assume to be.

Any mistakes, please correct me

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i would like to ask all the fish sifus here.. i'm a very very fresh newbie in fishes.. just want to ask, for those real plants in the water, what do i need to 'tanam' them ? and my fish aquarium is actually a vase.. tall and slim .. so, can only put oxygen inside, and then cannot put filter, coz too small to put filter..

1 more question , i put 1 male and female moonfish inside, and also 2 other fish that i dunno the name.. but the fish's perut is kembang one.. like mengandung like tat .. but not really la ..

1 week later, they died, what happened a? hope tat u all can give me tips and tricks in rearing fishies.. dun want anymore fish to die liao .. sad.gif
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QUOTE(sampan1027 @ Apr 7 2010, 10:55 PM)
i would like to ask all the fish sifus here.. i'm a very very fresh newbie in fishes.. just want to ask, for those real plants in the water, what do i need to 'tanam' them ? and my fish aquarium is actually a vase.. tall and slim .. so, can only put oxygen inside, and then cannot put filter, coz too small to put filter..

1 more question , i put 1 male and female moonfish inside, and also 2 other fish that i dunno the name.. but the fish's perut is kembang one.. like mengandung like tat .. but not really la ..

1 week later, they died, what happened a? hope tat u all can give me tips and tricks in rearing fishies.. dun want anymore fish to die liao .. sad.gif
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or moon fish moon platy?
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perut kembang mengandund but not really? maybe dis??
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to tanam plants need soil, get ADA AQUASOIL! if u search around fish shop will sell them in small bag rm10 - rm15 nia so can put in ur vase, then tanam the plant..

since no filter so cant put fish la.. water drty sure fish will die!

if u want them to not die, filter! get a proper tank a small one also nvm get small HOB filter and start your aquarium! smile.gif

here is example of small tank btw
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wow tat filter is really really small! actually, the water is not very dirty leh .. coz i change the water once every 3 days like that .. then only got 4 fish inside .. oh .. it's the moon platy and also the other ones, im not very sure .. the perut quite kembang one.. what i know is , both also beranak one ..
eh, got very very small filter one a ? maybe can get it for my vase eh ?
If let' say i use soil to plant, when i change water tat time, how to handle the soil ya? coz , definitely , the 'tahi' will be at the soil liao .. :S
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QUOTE(sampan1027 @ Apr 8 2010, 12:28 AM)
wow tat filter is really really small! actually, the water is not very dirty leh .. coz i change the water once every 3 days like that .. then only got 4 fish inside .. oh .. it's the moon platy and also the other ones, im not very sure .. the perut quite kembang one.. what i know is , both also beranak one ..
eh, got very very small filter one a ? maybe can get it for my vase eh ?
If let' say i use soil to plant, when i change water tat time, how to handle the soil ya? coz , definitely , the 'tahi' will be at the soil liao .. :S
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how many % of water u change ? please show a pic to shows us how small it has. smile.gif
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this is almost as small as it goes! usually the shit need not to worry when u have a good filter smile.gif
noneed to worry about the shit, but actually what the shit release into the water.. all this harmfull chemicals and bacteria that are released by the shit will be filtered by the filter..

but once in awhile use hose and suck the shit out when u change water
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i change 100% of the water.... coz not filter ma .. actually got rocks in the bottom one.. so the shit stuck there lo .. so gotto change all lo ... :S

mmm .. regarding the filter, the big big head thing need not be in the water issit?

I'll try to get pics tomolo ..
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QUOTE(sampan1027 @ Apr 8 2010, 04:35 AM)
i change 100% of the water.... coz not filter ma .. actually got rocks in the bottom one.. so the shit stuck there lo .. so gotto change all lo ... :S

mmm .. regarding the filter, the big big head thing need not be in the water issit?

I'll try to get pics tomolo ..
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There is some white strand sticking to my DW, and moss.. Is tat algae or Bacteria bloom?
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QUOTE(Adremier @ Apr 8 2010, 10:10 AM)
There is some white strand sticking to my DW, and moss.. Is tat algae or Bacteria bloom?
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http://www.aquahobby.com/articles/e_freshwater_algae.php

which one? i think freestyler had a problem with a white cottonball like algae
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it looks like a cotton strand...
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QUOTE(Adremier @ Apr 8 2010, 12:19 PM)
it looks like a cotton strand...
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this?


Added on April 8, 2010, 12:39 pmhttp://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/forumapc/algae/49345-more-white-fuzz-plants.html

click clickie!! maybe this will help

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Got My Co2 Unit..
Buy For 280 Is It Worth?
Its Small Alluminium Bottle Like A Big Carlsberg Bottle..
Light Also..
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Got My Co2 Unit.. Buy For 280 Is It Worth? Its Small Alluminium Bottle Like A Big Carlsberg Bottle.. Light Also..

tank only?? or got the valve thing?
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QUOTE(wen30 @ Apr 8 2010, 03:49 PM)
tank only?? or got the valve thing?
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Included Regulator..
Something like this but small one..

http://www.stm-shop.co.uk/acatalog/CO2_Clylinders.jpg
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QUOTE(sampan1027 @ Apr 8 2010, 04:35 AM)
i change 100% of the water.... coz not filter ma .. actually got rocks in the bottom one.. so the shit stuck there lo .. so gotto change all lo ... :S

mmm .. regarding the filter, the big big head thing need not be in the water issit?

I'll try to get pics tomolo ..
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no wonder ur fishes died. normally we will change change about 20% of water. if u change 100%, water parameter swing at all. try imagine that u suddenly drag into a different enviroment with different air pressure, temperature, humility and others conditions. u can your body able to handle it ? same like the fishes.


Added on April 8, 2010, 3:27 pmaluminium tank ! people who rich and look for cantik tank will go for this. i thinks urs is around 1L ?

pros of aluminium tank:
light
good looking
small

cons:
small capacity at high price !
with rm280 i think u can get a 2L or 3L one.

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QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Apr 8 2010, 04:24 PM)
no wonder ur fishes died. normally we will change change about 20% of water. if u change 100%, water parameter swing at all. try imagine that u suddenly drag into a different enviroment with different air pressure, temperature, humility and others conditions. u can your body able to handle it ? same like the fishes.


Added on April 8, 2010, 3:27 pmaluminium tank ! people who rich and look for cantik tank will go for this. i thinks urs is around 1L ?

pros of aluminium tank:
light
good looking
small

cons:
small capacity at high price !
with rm280 i think u can get a 2L or 3L one.
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pet wonderland at midvalley sell the aluminum one at 180 ..
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this one?


Added on April 8, 2010, 4:19 pm
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tank only?? or got the valve thing?
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actually its regulator. tot u might wana know.hehe
here are some examples
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the one i saw in mid valley is the same as yours michanz
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just did another time bba treatment~ hopefully they get lost..
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QUOTE(Adremier @ Apr 8 2010, 04:28 PM)
the one i saw in mid valley is the same as yours michanz
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i bought mine at rm145 rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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SLS dont have the tank anymore ..
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i heard that time joe told me i bought the last 1.. damn lucky lol
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Yup, when i went there, the uncle is packing up his stuff..

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whatelese left that time? bagi diskaun kao kao
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i dont know.. i was there for only 5 minutes only.. lol
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QUOTE(Adremier @ Apr 8 2010, 05:45 PM)
i dont know.. i was there for only 5 minutes only.. lol
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Michanz Same Like Yours..
I'm Damn Angry Now.. vmad.gif
Rm280.. I'll Remember That Shop..
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i bought mine at rm145

wa.. so cheap.. the 1 i saw is rm 220.. donno why so expensive 1.. no regulator also.. rm 75 diff wo... is it filled when u bought it?? i think the 1 i saw is 1 liter aluminium..


Added on April 8, 2010, 6:51 pm
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Michanz Same Like Yours.. I'm Damn Angry Now.. Rm280.. I'll Remember That Shop..

wa what shop?? i saw in pet family is rm 280 no regulator same with the 1 i saw rm 220..

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QUOTE(wen30 @ Apr 8 2010, 07:50 PM)
wa.. so cheap.. the 1 i saw is rm 220.. donno why so expensive 1.. no regulator also.. rm 75 diff wo... is it filled when u bought it?? i think the 1 i saw is 1 liter aluminium..


Added on April 8, 2010, 6:51 pm
wa what shop?? i saw in pet family is rm 280 no regulator same with the 1 i saw rm 220..
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Pudu There.. Exactly The Same With Sifu Michanz De..
They Sell 280 With Regulator.. mad.gif
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rm145 just the tank, regulator is err,, donwan say la later u sakit hati u buy rm280...

but what fongzai said its true, our type aluminium cylinder looks nice but small and expensive..

rm280 u can get normal 2l tank with regulator solenoid..

but i chose this aluminium tank cuz its not so big and yeah it looks cool! haha

theres even a smaller one! mine is second from the left! i saw the smallest 1 in sls also damn cute
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sorry for the big pictures btw


Added on April 8, 2010, 7:30 pm
QUOTE(wen30 @ Apr 8 2010, 06:50 PM)
wa.. so cheap.. the 1 i saw is rm 220.. donno why so expensive 1.. no regulator also.. rm 75 diff wo... is it filled when u bought it?? i think the 1 i saw is 1 liter aluminium..


Added on April 8, 2010, 6:51 pm
wa what shop?? i saw in pet family is rm 280 no regulator same with the 1 i saw rm 220..
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mine is rm150 but discount till rm145

pet family pets wonderland east aqua all that are big shops la, ofcourse they sell abit more expensive

ive been using this tank since january, till now at 1bps still havent drop a bar yet

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Guys Does The Co2 Cyclinder Need To Be Open All The Time?
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QUOTE(~TheAngel~ @ Apr 8 2010, 07:50 PM)
Guys Does The Co2 Cyclinder Need To Be Open All The Time?
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theres two valves, one for the tank one for the regulator, the one for the tank i keep it open at all times i just adjust the one at the valve!

and bubble counter makes ur life soooooooooooooooooooooo much easier
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QUOTE(michanz @ Apr 8 2010, 08:53 PM)
theres two valves, one for the tank one for the regulator, the one for the tank i keep it open at all times i just adjust the one at the valve!

and bubble counter makes ur life soooooooooooooooooooooo much easier
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But My Diy Bubble Conter Suck The Water In doh.gif
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Rm 280 with solenoid? Now that's a deal killer..

Seriously dude? Solenoid? Around here it's rm 280 JUST solenoid lol

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QUOTE(chuppy2 @ Apr 8 2010, 10:31 PM)
Rm 280 with solenoid? Now that's a deal killer..

Seriously dude? Solenoid? Around here it's rm 280 JUST solenoid lol

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QUOTE(~TheAngel~ @ Apr 8 2010, 09:35 PM)
What Do You Mean Drew?
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I think he mean u got a best deal if u buy Tank + Solenoid = RM 280 coz for him Rm 280 = Solenoid only. Correct me if im misunderstood sweat.gif
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yesss... solenoid is another high tech stuff to pair with co2 tank. auto on and off. with the output volume u set. true make ur life easier. but rm280 just for the little tech stuff without CO2 tank.
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cuz i saw sls that time solenoid rm200 when i wana buy my tank huhuh! i swear its solenoid haahah
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Mic, go buy for me 3, 3 2L tanks + solenoid regulator.

power deal. Check and see if that 'solenoid' has a power cable attached?

And yes you're right ranchu...

BTW, in case there are some miscommunications, there are some MANUAL regulators with 2 valves as well

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This is a solenoid valve..a.k.a. Auto regulator..

Around here, cheapest is rm 280 per unit WITHOUT c02 tank.

Cheers
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the one i saw was black box 2 gauge it says profeesional regulator i guess i took it as solenoid! sorry lolx!

rm200 - 250 la the price! that was december..

chuppy i was saying 280 almost can get tank+ solenoid laaa

cuz back then when i was searching theres one seller in penang selling loads of tanks well fire extinguisher tanks at about rm70

so about 300 can la! if lucky hahah

btw adremeir bought his tank+solenoid for rm300! damn i wanted to buy it actually laugh.gif hahah


Added on April 8, 2010, 11:13 pmbtw diy light casing today

was walking out from my place then saw someone threw out a light casing.. those outdoor casing.. well took it washed it sprayed it! looks quite good!

put it ontop of my current light set for comparison
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ensure its rm300 come with SOLENOIDDDDDDDDDD ????
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forget about it la... hhahahah
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i got my solenoid for rm250
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I got my 4.5 kg(how many liter is that?) Co2 tank + Solenoid + tube, check valve, buble counter, diffuser only for RM 300. All 2nd hand item hehehe
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any 1 keep "zebra Neritina" before ? looking for it act as algae cleaner !
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I'm Sure Is Exactly The Same Co2 Unit With Sifu Michanz..
I Dunno What Is "solenoid" But The Cover Was Same With Sifu Michanz De Previous Picture..

Totally Same I Buy Rm280 Now Is It Expensive???
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YUp, mine is rm330 plus solenoid. smile.gif


Added on April 9, 2010, 9:23 amHeard that pets wonderland is having offer from today onward. up to 70% discounts.


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QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Apr 9 2010, 12:46 AM)
any 1 keep "zebra Neritina" before ? looking for it act as algae cleaner !
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i read about it before its good for cleaning up GSA on rocks and walls! been looking for it ever since..but my only snail source in SLS they use to have TONS of em!

QUOTE(~TheAngel~ @ Apr 9 2010, 03:05 AM)
I'm Sure Is Exactly The Same Co2 Unit With Sifu Michanz..
I Dunno What Is "solenoid" But The Cover Was Same With Sifu Michanz De Previous Picture..

Totally Same I Buy Rm280 Now Is It Expensive???
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i bought mine rm200 but that was december last year.. like chuppy said these stuff the prices fluctuate alot

QUOTE(Adremier @ Apr 9 2010, 09:04 AM)
YUp, mine is rm330 plus solenoid. smile.gif


Added on April 9, 2010, 9:23 amHeard that pets wonderland is having offer from today onward. up to 70% discounts.
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pets wonderland? only the pets wonderland side? cuz midvalley 1 is pets wonderland 1 side and east aqua one side lolz


Added on April 9, 2010, 9:52 am
QUOTE(Ranchu7 @ Apr 9 2010, 12:33 AM)
I got my 4.5 kg(how many liter is that?) Co2 tank + Solenoid + tube, check valve, buble counter, diffuser only for RM 300. All 2nd hand item hehehe
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thats a sweet deal! hahaha

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solenoid is electric power...so if ur regulator need electric supplied then is a confirm solenoid...if not is just a normal manual regulator...case close


solenoid regulator is more expensive than manual regulator...solenoid one is around +- 200
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Damn, 300 for all of that... really cheap smile.gif


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Well tenchi, thanks for clearing that up rclxms.gif
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But Problem Is Solenoid Need Electric Power..
Mine Just EXACTLY Same With Sifu Michanz De..
Its Just Open N Close..
Nah.. My Boi Told Me Just Let It Be An Experience Next Time Won't Do Again..

Its Time For Some ShowOn Lolz..
This Is My Very First Tank:

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Yesterday Just Rescape Now Like:

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This Morning:

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QUOTE(~TheAngel~ @ Apr 9 2010, 12:09 PM)
But Problem Is Solenoid Need Electric Power..
Mine Just EXACTLY Same With Sifu Michanz De..
Its Just Open N Close..
Nah.. My Boi Told Me Just Let It Be An Experience Next Time Won't Do Again..
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yah! so the tank valve leave it open and adjust the regulator valve nia.. from bubble counter u can adjust 1bps or 2bps or etc

uik noneed sifu sifu! chuppy is the sifu here

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QUOTE(michanz @ Apr 9 2010, 01:14 PM)
yah! so the tank valve leave it open and adjust the regulator valve nia.. from bubble counter u can adjust 1bps or 2bps or etc

uik noneed sifu sifu! chuppy is the sifu here
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i can see improvements! the idea ur going for is great!

try to improve in rock placement make it look more "natural"

and thats ur lights? u need to upgrade lights !

if thats a 2footer ull need atleast 55watts
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QUOTE(michanz @ Apr 9 2010, 01:19 PM)
i can see improvements! the idea ur going for is great!

try to improve in rock placement make it look more "natural"

and thats ur lights? u need to upgrade lights !

if thats a 2footer ull need atleast 55watts
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I Saw Light Inside Tank Was Amazing But Just For Good Look Only..

BTW How To Look Natural.. Teach Me Can Ma Michanz?

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howbout some carpet plants? like HC. glosso, or hairgrass?

HC
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Glosso
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just realised bout the lite forgot to ask u that nite...

ya, u need to used something like mine, 55w... bought around rm110
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QUOTE(shortpants @ Apr 9 2010, 01:25 PM)
just realised bout the lite forgot to ask u that nite...

ya, u need to used something like mine, 55w... bought around rm110
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QUOTE(~TheAngel~ @ Apr 9 2010, 12:22 PM)
Yes Sir!!!
My Boi Told Me "Slowly My Dear.."

I Saw Light Inside Tank Was Amazing But Just For Good Look Only..

BTW How To Look Natural.. Teach Me Can Ma Michanz?
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for lights u can go any lighting shop and get the lights

6000k lights! mine is
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this bulb cost me around rm28 and ballast about rm10 or 15, then get casing or reflector urself! or u can go fish shop and buy the fullset which cost about rm150++! it looks good tho! hehe

look natural? hmm just imagine lo how the riverside looks like, then see what rocks u have.. place them like how they would look naturally in the river there..
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BTW The HairGrass Was Nice  rclxms.gif
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hairgrass alot of fish shop will sell about rm6 one pot
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So Just Put The Pot Into The Soil Right?
Need To Take Out Ma..
I'm Still Dunno How To Plant..
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So Just Put The Pot Into The Soil Right?
Need To Take Out Ma..
I'm Still Dunno How To Plant..
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u have to take out from pot, seperate them evenly! like errr this
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Thanks Michanz
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no prob!

im loving this scape

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i wonder can we install solenoid regulator in to a normal co2 tank? i mean do we need professional to install it or we can install it by ourself?
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QUOTE(adrian7386 @ Apr 9 2010, 01:10 PM)
i wonder can we install solenoid regulator in to a normal co2 tank? i mean do we need professional to install it or we can install it by ourself?
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installation is just the same as a manual regulator.. close the co2 tank valve, unscrew your manual regulator, then screw in ur solenoid regulator tightly, open ur co2 tank valve and ur done!

someone verify this first pls hahaha
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wewnt to mimdvalley for a quick shop...
damn...

watever chuppy using are so expensive!!!!!
ADA CO2 system and Treatment...

BBOOOOOOOMMMM.....!!!!!!
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QUOTE(chiewming @ Apr 9 2010, 01:45 PM)
wewnt to mimdvalley for a quick shop...
damn...

watever chuppy using are so expensive!!!!!
ADA CO2 system and Treatment...

BBOOOOOOOMMMM.....!!!!!!
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lilly pipes and glass ware all rm250 la rm499 la

ADA water conditioners like bacter100 clear super tourmaline rm55 per bottle

ADA ferts brighty k step 2 rm90 per bottle

hahaha siok!

ask chuppy show u his toilet
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hahaha...
siok onot see the price of ADA products???

miz, whose tank is tat
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QUOTE(pinchboyz @ Apr 9 2010, 02:02 PM)
hahaha...
siok onot see the price of ADA products???

miz, whose tank is tat
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no idea!

google CAPA 2009 one of the entry winners
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hey how much is the mosura speciality crs food cost?
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golden spoon to be exact hehe
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hey how much is the mosura speciality crs food cost?
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chuppy job is money printing??
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his father steel king in penang i think haha
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mosura speciality crs food RM33-36
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Everyone so rich.. can raise some CRS...
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i still cant afford to risk paying premium prices for crs and have no idea whether they will survive ornot in my tank
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thanks tenchi for the heads up...
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Damn, i hope i dont have to work on the weekend.. Wold like to attend the SLS gathering.. huhu
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michanz. that means no more source for the zebra Neritina already ? im wondering how much it will cost..
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Your problems meh.. I can afford these things.

FYI, I did not rely on my parents funding to get all this. Only relied on it when I was 17 or younger. Have been working part time.. All the $ earned during part time spent here since food and accommodation is cleared off...

Also I don't spend mindlessly or needlessly like most noobs. I did not take the route of spending stage by stage like what I see happening here.. Fans fans, HOB HOB, then change to canister.. straight to what pro use.. Less problems.. Less headaches

Don't simply judge people when you don't know them. I am not putting myself in your shoes. Don't put yours into mine.

All the best to all you aspiring aquascapers out there. If you think I gained results trough all this expensive gear, think again. (check Aquafair Entry 2008, use HOB, basic lighting, still not a bad scape)

Try having more passion guys. rather than just comparing my gears to yours.

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Added on April 9, 2010, 6:33 pmSorry if that came out rough. Just had enough of people assuming.

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i think out of all the other forums, this forum is the most terrible one eh chuppy! hehehe sorry for my earlier comments chup!i stand humbled!

@fongzai - yeah if they dont bring it in anymre i dont know wherelse to get em

@adremier - never had the problems with these snails before..
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i just back from SLS. the new boss is friendly !

asked him lot of questions and he answered and help me a lot !
he was back from taiwan. and the items over there are CHEAP compare to others. btw there is still not fully stocked yet.

i saw..
EJET

3358 to 3388
3358 quoted rm150, but the boss say still can be discount because of kedai baru.

bought a stem plant HM, will plant it tomorrow.
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the boss say still can be discount because of kedai baru.

wah got discount.. got sell co2 tank o not? SLS a bit far from me..
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co2 tank im not sure. but diffusor got. call up and ask better !

03 78454266
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QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Apr 9 2010, 08:06 PM)
i just back from SLS. the new boss is friendly !

asked him lot of questions and he answered and help me a lot !
he was back from taiwan. and the items over there are CHEAP compare to others. btw there is still not fully stocked yet.

i saw..
EJET

3358 to 3388
3358 quoted rm150, but the boss say still can be discount because of kedai baru.

bought a stem plant HM, will plant it tomorrow.
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so got 3368??????
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Tmr gonna pay a visit to SLS....

BTW, i'm still looking for a tank...
There are plenty of size quality of tank out ther... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

some small aquarium shop selling 2feet tank at 200 and 88petsmart selling at 200++
dunno which to choose... sad.gif

Any idea guy ?Any shop known selling cheaper price for tank, ADA product, CO2 tank ? icon_question.gif icon_question.gif
I'm looking for 2 feet or mayb 3 feet tank... ( normally what it would cost for 2 feet tank ? ) icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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yes... 3358 3368 3378 3388 also got..
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QUOTE(chuppy2 @ Apr 9 2010, 10:08 PM)
yeesh, then people would not take me seriously If I'm not serious >.>
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@ Chiew

Many tanks have different pricing..

let's talk about the most cheapo 2ft x 1ft x 1ft with bracing..

That'll definitely not go over rm 40..

whereas a customed 60cm x 36cm x 30cm braceless around ehre would cost you rm 120.. It's ADA size.. but not true ADA

An ADA one is around 500+

Other aquariums.. the acrylic ones or bend front ones.. not so sure.. Not a fan of curved corners.

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Seems Like This Is Where You Got This Habit Of Typing Every Letter Of Your Sentence With Capitals tongue.gif Don't Infect MAC With It LOL.

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QUOTE(chuppy2 @ Apr 9 2010, 09:08 PM)
yeesh, then people would not take me seriously If I'm not serious >.>
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QUOTE(chiewming @ Apr 9 2010, 09:12 PM)
Tmr gonna pay a visit to SLS....

BTW, i'm still looking for a tank...
There are plenty of size quality of tank out ther...  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

some small aquarium shop selling 2feet tank at 200 and 88petsmart selling at 200++
dunno which to choose... sad.gif

Any idea guy ?Any shop known selling cheaper price for tank, ADA product, CO2 tank ? icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
I'm looking for 2 feet or mayb 3 feet tank... ( normally what it would cost for 2 feet tank ? )   icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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howbout custom making ur own if u like? i standard two feet tank would cost aprox rm30 - 40 if its a custom? or u can customize ur tank to whatevr specs you want! and yeah im not a fan of those curve edges tanks.. or even curved or bowed tanks.. really gives me a headache
all that u want, try go SLS! its new so probably will get discount!

but nowadays to get discount is actually bargaining down to its recommend retail prices! lets say the RRP for a bag of amazonia soil 9l would be rm88, shops out there now are selling them at rm100 or rm120 like EA or those bigger pet shops.. to get a discount means ull only get down to rm88

and rm88 for a bag of ADA soil is kinda somewhat hard nowadays even! cuz alot of places i go they dont sell em at rm88

QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Apr 9 2010, 09:21 PM)
yes... 3358 3368 3378 3388 also got..
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wuahhh!! damn hard to find lo the 3368 3378 ! hmm 3358 for sale~~~ wana get 3368 xD

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No, don't need to apologize. It's not that you guys are rude or anything. I'm just tired of it already for those who simply ASSUME.. people start looking at my gear, then go see market price of things... then simply add on in their minds.. then go waa.. then find out my age.. then go double waaahh and simply combine all and think I got these without effort.

it's society's fault. Not yours Mic.

Just note that the action ASSUME would make and ASS of U and ME . biggrin.gif

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Added on April 9, 2010, 9:46 pmOh also note that most of my things are found second hand. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(chuppy2 @ Apr 9 2010, 09:46 PM)
@Michanz
No, don't need to apologize. It's not that you guys are rude or anything. I'm just tired of it already for those who simply ASSUME..  people start looking at my gear, then go see market price of things... then simply add on in their minds.. then go waa.. then find out my age.. then go double waaahh and simply combine all and think I got these without effort.

it's society's fault. Not yours Mic.

Just note that the action ASSUME would make and ASS of U and ME . biggrin.gif

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Added on April 9, 2010, 9:46 pmOh also note that most of my things are found second hand. biggrin.gif
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up until know i still dont know ur age! laugh.gif

if already a legal age then when i go up north i go find u go yumseng!

and yeah u can show me lfs around there lolx
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Definitely legal LOL, sure thing bro. contact me anytime.

best not know my age. haha. I'm Uncle as what most of you called me before haha!

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agree with chuppy..

dun go compare ur gear with each other la....no point...smile.gif

demmit....i nearly suffocate my Ottos to death....this morning saw all of them lying on the floor breathing hard...opened my CO2 too much already...but now they're back to their normal self tho..

104W + ADA amazonia + CO2 tank

can grow HC nicely??

my current temp will be around 26 27?

no fert tho...
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was throwing out the garbage the other day and found an old light casing someone threw out.. hit me in the head that itll be great for my diy light fixture..

so sprayed it nicely
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nice right?

then turned it around see that its black inside too
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yeap! i need some reflector.. well i thought of someting shiny and cheap! so first thing came into mind was aluminium foil..

went to tesco to buy some aluminium foil since tesco everything got.. all giggles when i get home and get ready to cover the insides of my casing, until........................
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agree with chuppy..

dun go compare ur gear with each other la....no point...smile.gif

demmit....i nearly suffocate my Ottos to death....this morning saw all of them lying on the floor breathing hard...opened my CO2 too much already...but now they're back to their normal self tho..

104W + ADA amazonia + CO2 tank

can grow HC nicely??

my current temp will be around 26 27?

no fert tho...
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im on 70watts on a 2footer! growing nicely!! but i realised that when u put a little extra co2 the HC will grow better

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72watts on 2feeter. cantik

Pump more c02 and excel. sure grow 1..

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mine 55w + 48w for 2fter...

algae ??

haah...dem!
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michanz , this tank u posted, who plant 1.. so geng lo.. the hairgrass is very nice..
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michanz , this tank u posted, who plant 1.. so geng lo.. the hairgrass is very nice..
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i dunno i google picture for reference only.

@chuppy 72watts for 2feet enuff? cuz im planning for 2 x 55watt.. so 55watt on my current lights, and another 55watt when i build my new light casing

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byez all the bacopa.

and planted my "Hemianthus micranthemoides "pearl grass"
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byez all the bacopa.

and planted my "Hemianthus micranthemoides "pearl grass"
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pics of HM ?

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@Mic, my 'Iwagumi' with the HC u saw a few pages back.. grown with 72w.. the red rotala also damn red.. u tell me enough or not?
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@Mic, my 'Iwagumi' with the HC u saw a few pages back.. grown with 72w.. the red rotala also damn red.. u tell me enough or not?
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isit... i tot i read in the journal somewhere it was 104 or 105 watts.. ur tank right! i blur edi
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har? 55w is addition for photography..

But you gotta know.. in the end I grew them with a single casing holding 36w x 2
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QUOTE(chuppy2 @ Apr 10 2010, 12:24 AM)
har? 55w is addition for photography..

But you gotta know.. in the end I grew them with a single casing holding 36w x 2
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alright.. i guess my lights are good euff! hehe HC grows quite okay with my lights now..i need stem plants
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i will be trying some mosura products on CRS, i bought the whole range. so i can give some feedback if u guys wanna try.

gonna get my 2nd 2ft tank, wanna do properly this time, i have learn so much from u guys =) SALUTE


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QUOTE(William7 @ Apr 10 2010, 02:41 AM)
i will be trying some mosura products on CRS, i bought the whole range. so i can give some feedback if u guys wanna try.

gonna get my 2nd 2ft tank, wanna do properly this time, i have learn so much from u guys =) SALUTE
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u can learn TONS more from reading up and researching from google! and when ur setting up the new 2footer do take pics and start a journal of it so others in the future can refer biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(playerseeker @ Apr 9 2010, 10:52 PM)
agree with chuppy..

dun go compare ur gear with each other la....no point...smile.gif

demmit....i nearly suffocate my Ottos to death....this morning saw all of them lying on the floor breathing hard...opened my CO2 too much already...but now they're back to their normal self tho..

104W + ADA amazonia + CO2 tank

can grow HC nicely??

my current temp will be around 26 27?

no fert tho...
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Chuppy, my bad for starting the "ASSUME" case ... sad.gif sad.gif

After searching internet about plant aquarium and accessory, ADA product definitely the best looking and I'm so into it....
My ouucchh is becos I never expect it would be so expensive... haha shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif
I still think straight away go to ADA series would save me lot of time and money... ( Agreed with Chuppy... )

Chuppy from northern region ?
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I wouldn't say ADA is the best la.. a lot of items can replicate.. just that ADA method would have a lot less headache. IMHO.. Well I think that's a way to look at it of being the best tongue.gif

Good things not cheap, Cheap things not Good. basic. lol

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hey anyone know where to get ADA original red bee shrimp food?
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saturday saturday saturday! what do u guys have in store today?

gona finish up my diy light casing biggrin.gif
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Caturday.

lol, already found a better reflector? hehehe
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Caturday.

lol, already found a better reflector? hehehe
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if that fails il use those mirrors and make meself a disco ball
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michanz bila u mau the stem plant ? bacopa!
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bacopa too big for me.. wait u harvest ur pearl grass lah =D
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michanz ,

When wanna teach me how to DIY a 4ft light? smile.gif

I gonna put two 2ft tanks side by side. Need 4ft lighting.... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(presario316 @ Apr 10 2010, 04:32 PM)
michanz ,

When wanna teach me how to DIY a 4ft light?  smile.gif

I gonna put two 2ft tanks side by side. Need 4ft lighting.... biggrin.gif
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read the previous page i post how i made my lights hahaha

first find 4feet casing lah
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QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Apr 9 2010, 08:06 PM)
i just back from SLS. the new boss is friendly !

asked him lot of questions and he answered and help me a lot !
he was back from taiwan. and the items over there are CHEAP compare to others. btw there is still not fully stocked yet.

i saw..
EJET

3358 to 3388
3358 quoted rm150, but the boss say still can be discount because of kedai baru.

bought a stem plant HM, will plant it tomorrow.
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I'm back from SLS..
Indeed, he is a nice person...

QUOTE(wen30 @ Apr 9 2010, 08:16 PM)
wah got discount.. got sell co2 tank o not? SLS a bit far from me..
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too bad the tunnel changed to 1 way tunnel.. damn!!! vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif
Yup, 2L abt 200, regulator abt 70
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post Apr 10 2010, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(chiewming @ Apr 10 2010, 05:10 PM)
I'm back from SLS..
Indeed, he is a nice person...
too bad the tunnel changed to 1 way tunnel.. damn!!! vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif
Yup, 2L abt 200, regulator abt 70
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yeah rather than turning right to go the tunnel u hfto go straigh and go all d way to the other side lol
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post Apr 10 2010, 05:51 PM

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that caused me perfer a HONDA EX5 to go there.
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Any1 know why they wanna change the route??

How many people are going to SLS workshop??
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QUOTE(chiewming @ Apr 10 2010, 06:01 PM)
Any1 know why they wanna change the route??

How many people are going to SLS workshop??
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im goinggg!!!


@loon dslr?hehehe FTS mana?

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Yes DSLR
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QUOTE(loon1031 @ Apr 10 2010, 06:17 PM)
Yes DSLR
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full tank shot kasi laaa hehe
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using macro len ??
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QUOTE(michanz @ Apr 10 2010, 06:19 PM)
full tank shot kasi laaa hehe
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Still kelam-Kabut.... Not yet trim sweat.gif


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QUOTE(chiewming @ Apr 10 2010, 06:19 PM)
using macro len ??
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Yup...My new gear SP90 smile.gif

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post Apr 10 2010, 06:45 PM

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someone with a dslr pls do come my house and take pictures of me tank for me hahaha
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haha... SP90
good len...
but macro+moving object == patience and lots of tries...

btw, show us ur full tank shot.. tongue.gif
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post Apr 10 2010, 06:48 PM

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chiew wheres ur full tank shot ? hehe

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QUOTE(chiewming @ Apr 10 2010, 06:46 PM)
haha... SP90
good len...
but macro+moving object == patience and lots of tries...

btw, show us ur full tank shot.. tongue.gif
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Only have Dec 09 photo....before add CO2, Fan & Change Strong light
But now change a lot laugh.gif

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december? its been four months..im sure theres alot of difference by now..
come on! lets see the latest one! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(michanz @ Apr 10 2010, 06:48 PM)
chiew wheres ur full tank shot ? hehe
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i'm "on d way"!!!! Mostly will grab all stuff on 17 April in SLS..
Did a quick check with SLS on price...

It will cost me 1.1k not yet inclu stone, shrimp and fish..!!! sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(michanz @ Apr 10 2010, 07:12 PM)
december? its been four months..im sure theres alot of difference by now..
come on! lets see the latest one! biggrin.gif
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Planning start another tank wink.gif
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QUOTE(chiewming @ Apr 10 2010, 07:21 PM)
i'm "on d way"!!!! Mostly will grab all stuff on 17 April in SLS..
Did a quick check with SLS on price...

It will cost me 1.1k not yet inclu stone, shrimp and fish..!!!  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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1.1k includes what?

QUOTE(loon1031 @ Apr 10 2010, 07:25 PM)
Planning start another tank wink.gif
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journal coming soon?
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post Apr 10 2010, 09:57 PM

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SP90?

Super sharp lens.. Very good for portrait!

Also super slow LOL!!, so in macro mode and moving objects.. errr.. good luck, you need an offshoe flash haha!

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whre to get this beautiful plant? sad.gif

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