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 Astro B.yond V4.1, WELCOME TO THE NEW WORLD OF HD

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post May 25 2010, 05:47 PM

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wow... this is great news indeed... how much do we need to pay for the WD 320gb hdd ?
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post May 25 2010, 05:58 PM

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post May 25 2010, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(MyDevil @ May 25 2010, 03:28 PM)
Astro to unveil B.yond PVR
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It looks like the current Byond ler .... so is it another box or what? rclxub.gif
If another box, I just installed for 1 month, can upgrade/change or not?!
This is really confusing, very much "misery" indeed, it's like watching a super-slow-motion taking out clothing kind of feeling ....... shocking.gif
Please, it is already month-end and still don't know how to record the WCup .....sweat.gif
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ May 25 2010, 05:47 PM)
wow... this is great news indeed... how much do we need to pay for the WD 320gb hdd ?
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Sigh... sweat.gif

Better take 2nd option... But i dont know if it's worth to buy new HDD or get the PVR instead. hmm.gif
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post May 25 2010, 09:04 PM

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I'm currently using external 320gb wd hdd to kept my movies, files...etc. can just u straight away after this? or must use different one..

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post May 25 2010, 09:08 PM

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Can i ask u guys something..
Would u rather take in this new astro PVR device or take the PVR device below?
I'm afraid astro will charge us very expensive for the PVR functions and service and at the same time its a new thing just like Byond
I scared it will have many problems..

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THE FIFA World Cup is just around the corner and if you do not want to miss any of the matches, a device like the Noontec V9 Full HD media player could prove useful.

Apart from letting you play a myriad of multimedia files, the device is also able to record straight from the TV. All you need to do is hook it up to a video source such as the TV, satellite TV decoder or video player via the composite cable and press the record button.

The recorded content is stored in MPEG2 format and there is also a scheduled recording function for added convenience.

As a media player, the Noontec V9 supports almost all of today's popular multimedia formats and can stream them to an entertainment system via composite, component video or HDMI connection.

Supported video formats include H.264, MKV, HD DivX, HD Xvid, MPEG 2-TS, RMVB and VC-1 files. Users can also listen to MP3, WMA, WAV, OGG, AAC and a host of other music formats. In terms of images, it can handle JPG, JPEG, BMP, PNG, TIFF and GIF formats.

Inside, the Noontec V9 has space for a 3.5in desktop SATA hard drive, which users can use to store their media files. It supports up to a 2TB capacity drive.

It also has a multicard reader and two USB2.0 ports for users to connect external hard disks, thumbdrives and MP3 players.

With its built-in Ethernet port, users can connect to the home network to stream their media library on connected PCs or laptops.

You can browse online videos, photos, news and weather reports via the built-in widgets.

Going beyond media playback and recording capabilities, the Noontech V9 also has a built-in BitTorrent client to enable users to download files content from the Net directly into the device.

There's also a USB B port available to turn it into a mass storage device when linked to a PC. A handy option indeed when users need to move video content in the internal hard disk to and from a PC.

The media player, which costs RM599, also comes bundled with a wireless remote control.


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QUOTE(dxjb @ May 25 2010, 09:08 PM)
Can i ask u guys something..
Would u rather take in this new astro PVR device or take the PVR device below?
I'm afraid astro will charge us very expensive for the PVR functions and service and at the same time its a new thing just like Byond
I scared it will have many problems..
.... a device like the Noontec V9 Full HD media player ....
Can this device attach to current Byond and schedule to record WC matches without on the TV?

Seriously, I don't think Astro can let us go easily without getting some kind of long-term income from us ...... brows.gif
So I really don't mind paying 1-time off if the device can function and integrate seamlessly with current B'yond box cool2.gif
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QUOTE(klseet @ May 25 2010, 10:19 PM)
Can this device attach to current Byond and schedule to record WC matches without on the TV?

Seriously, I don't think Astro can let us go easily without getting some kind of long-term income from us ...... brows.gif
So I really don't mind paying 1-time off if the device can function and integrate seamlessly with current B'yond box cool2.gif
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QUOTE(cam40729 @ May 25 2010, 03:54 PM)
not heard of it.
there will be 2 types of HD recording services

1) Byond
- using external USB HD (only works with 320GB Western digital AV HD)
- single tuner, only record and view max 1 channel at 1 time

2) PVR (Astro-MAX-like)
- internal HD
- dual tuner, can record and view max 2 channels at 1 time
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What a different between this WD AV HD with normal external hardisk? Quiet confusing hmm.gif
BTW, 320GB it not enough for me. hahaha


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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ May 25 2010, 05:40 PM)
and how much do we need to pay... hmm.gif
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Still need to pay? Haiyaa.. pokai sweat.gif

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I wonder if i can swap the B.yond decoder with new PVR (Astro-Max like) from Astro instead?
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QUOTE(Qash-M @ May 25 2010, 10:07 PM)
I wonder if i can swap the B.yond decoder with new PVR (Astro-Max like) from Astro instead?
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I think yes, we can surely swap the decoder. But surely Astro will charge us.... We need to buy that decoder. Like Astro max some time ago, we can exchange our decoder, but need to pay RM800 something. But if u add max as 2nd decoder, only pay RM500 something..... blink.gif so, expect now that probably this new PVR with HD, will costs more than Max. notworthy.gif Anyway, need to wait until 1 June for official announcement from Astro. I'm afraid to make early conclusion.... But if they give the options , I will choose to buy WD AV external HDD instead of changing my decoder to new HD PVR....

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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ May 25 2010, 10:21 PM)
I think yes, we can surely swap the decoder. But surely Astro will charge us.... We need to buy that decoder. Like Astro max some time ago, we can exchange our decoder, but need to pay RM800 something. But if u add max as 2nd decoder, only pay RM500 something.....  blink.gif  so, expect now that probably this new PVR with HD, will costs more than Max.  notworthy.gif Anyway, need to wait until 1 June for official announcement from Astro. I'm afraid to make early conclusion.... But if they give the options , I will choose to buy WD AV external HDD instead of changing my decoder to new HD PVR....
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How do i know which WD AV external HDD is fitting with B.yond decoder? icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(Qash-M @ May 25 2010, 10:26 PM)
How do i know which WD AV external HDD is fitting with B.yond decoder? icon_question.gif
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hmm... maybe you can ask bro cam for further explanation. Or better you just wait until 1st June 2010... tongue.gif
I'm really sure that actually bro Cam cannot elaborate and expose more information about astro new PVR and new Byond software... sweat.gif
But thanks to him because give us some "hint"... nod.gif

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Hope new byond PVR can support schedule recording just like MAX.
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The thing that is really bothering me about this new development regarding the PVR functions is that current Byond subscribers are being priced out of using this functions..

here me out guys..
am I the only one here that feels being tricked and manipulated by astro?
I mean..Byond was promoted as HD services but Im sure during the promo period, astro also told us that with Byond, we will be able to have recording functions and all..

Now suddenly, breaking news is that u either just have the firmware update n can only work with WD AV HD..or we need to get the PVR Max-Like decoder..

From what I understand, this is not very good news for Byonders..
U either spend money to get the the WD digital AV HD or spend definitely more money to get the PVR decoder..

Hope im wrong coz things are getting so complicated..
Can the digital media player be a good substitute for these astro options?

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QUOTE(dxjb @ May 25 2010, 11:35 PM)
am I the only one here that feels being tricked and manipulated by astro?
I mean..Byond was promoted as HD services but Im sure during the promo period, astro also told us that with Byond, we will be able to have recording functions and all..

Now suddenly, breaking news is that u either just have the firmware update n can only work with WD AV HD..or we need to get the PVR Max-Like  decoder..
How exactly are you being tricked and manipulated by Astro? Were you tricked into thinking that B.yond cannot record?

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From what I understand, this is not very good news for Byonders..
U either spend money to get the the WD digital AV HD or spend definitely more money to get the PVR decoder..
I don't agree that B.yond subscribers have no choice but to get the WD AV HDD. Astro should allow any USB storage solution (HDD or solid state) to record off the USB port. Astro however can guarantee that using WD AV HDD will get more support from them and WD.

As far as PVR is concerned, that's part of their revenue stream. Nobody paid anything for the B.yond decoder, apart from the monthly service fee. Having to pay for a PVR is an option, just like Tivo has many different Tivo HD recorders.

On the more serious side, I think that the PVR box should be around RM500-1000, with THREE TUNERS (2 to record and one to watch) with 500GB or more HDD, with an e-SATA port, Wifi functionality for internet programming, and that the PVR service can be paid for as a lifetime service for an additional RM300-500. Or cheaper.

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Hope im wrong coz things are getting so complicated..
Can the digital media player be a good substitute for these astro options?
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Unless those media players can start to record HDCP protected content via HDMI, they are pretty useless when combined with Astro.

From what I see, the info we are getting are not official and incomplete. In these type of situation, don't panic and rant just yet.


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QUOTE(dxjb @ May 25 2010, 11:35 PM)
The thing that is really bothering me about this new development regarding the PVR functions is that current Byond subscribers are being priced out of using this functions..

here me out guys..
am I the only one here that feels being tricked and manipulated by astro?
I mean..Byond was promoted as HD services but Im sure during the promo period, astro also told us that with Byond, we will be able to have recording functions and all..

Now suddenly, breaking news is that u either just have the firmware update n can only work with WD AV HD..or we need to get the PVR Max-Like  decoder..

From what I understand, this is not very good news for Byonders..
U either spend money to get the the WD digital AV HD or spend definitely more money to get the PVR decoder..

Hope im wrong coz things are getting so complicated..
Can the digital media player be a good substitute for these astro options?
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One thing for sure, it wont.. if u are a quality fussy pot like me. The recording functions offered by astro is the unique type because, right after the decryption of the transmitted signals, they just save the video/audio feed to the hard disk. This is easily explained as downloading the file straight to ure hard disk. There is no resampling of the audio/video and recompression. It is the original encoded video/audio direct from astro's encoder system. When the recording is done this way, you save whatever thats being multiplexed inside the transport stream file including multiple audio tracks and subtitling.

And when u record this way, u save the original encoding of either mpeg-2 format or h264 format depending on the broadcasters setting of the channel. You save the original broadcasted resolution. You save the original data rate distributions of that video/audio.

If you get a media box that records, it records thru analog inputs only and you wont get to record the full hd resolution of those channels, at most you could is up to 576p. You won't get to record the multiple audio tracks. You won't get to enable or disable the subtitling of the video just like the way astro's pvr records.
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ May 26 2010, 12:32 AM)
One thing for sure, it wont.. if u are a quality fussy pot like me. The recording functions offered by astro is the unique type because, right after the decryption of the transmitted signals, they just save the video/audio feed to the hard disk. This is easily explained as downloading the file straight to ure hard disk. There is no resampling of the audio/video and recompression. It is the original encoded video/audio direct from astro's encoder system. When the recording is done this way, you save whatever thats being multiplexed inside the transport stream file including multiple audio tracks and subtitling.

And when u record this way, u save the original encoding of either mpeg-2 format or h264 format depending on the broadcasters setting of the channel. You save the original broadcasted resolution. You save the original data rate distributions of that video/audio.

If you get a media box that records, it records thru analog inputs only and you wont get to record the full hd resolution of those channels, at most you could is up to 576p. You won't get to record the multiple audio tracks. You won't get to enable or disable the subtitling of the video just like the way astro's pvr records.
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Now, i understand... nod.gif
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QUOTE(writesimply @ May 26 2010, 12:24 AM)
On the more serious side, I think that the PVR box should be around RM500-1000, with THREE TUNERS (2 to record and one to watch) with 500GB or more HDD, with an e-SATA port, Wifi functionality for internet programming

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Unfortunately, I don't think so. Yes, it's still not official but seem unlikely to have 3 tuners. Maybe can record 2, but can't watch other channel while recording 2 channel
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I think I dont want recording anymore, enogh of Max experience how Ass screwed our money for that . It could not perform and was faulty,quietly Ass discontinued it but RM900 gone ! Now what we need is more HD channels for RM20 , not interested in PVR cos its $$$$$$$$ thats all, nothing great to record and watch anyway, flex.gif

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