Put the Internet/WAN port into VLAN ID 500 and set the PPPoE dialer to use that, if possible.

That DIR_615 already existed for over 2 years and it's only pre-N.

TM should have been more generous by supplying us with the 2Wire HGW just like what Singtel and AT&T U-Verse did.

Why do we always get cheap stuff?

I noticed that the STB does not have DVR function as well.
It's a matter of time people will hack the iptv and get free tv with it.

If they were to go with RF overlay by sending cable tv over another frequency they could have adopted the same smartcard security with the STB just like ASTRO with the only difference being the cable signals being sent over cable instead using a satellite.

This post has been edited by iipohbee: Apr 10 2010, 10:24 PM

hmm.. i guess i got it.. but i think the PPPoE dialer part is not possible on the dd-wrt (unless i missed something..)

i've attached some screenshots of the dd-wrt.. if can please teach me how to configure... (assuming the WAN port is connected to FiberHome modem)

Main setup page



VLAN settings



VLAN settings (2)

Beats me.. but the DIR-615 performs fine for torrenting (1 user) and such. I only hate it because they've locked us out from the SSH and telnet access, meaning we cant flash it with our own firmware unless we use a JTAG connector (which I believe it lacks too).

Regarding IPTV, the STB is shit but they're forcing us to use it. They went with a Service VLAN based set up where nothing is separated physically but rather digitally through the usage of VLANs. Scroll back a few pages, I've already been able to pick up multicast streams using my PC however they've decided to employ scrambling (decoded using a digital smart card in the STB) for some reason. Unlike ASTRO however, I doubt anyone is going to hack it for free TV because they would basically need to pull the fiber cable from the FTTH box into their house and obtain a fiberhome modem somehow (has to use the same PON protocol the main transceiver is using). The only reason they're scrambling the streams is to _force_ us to use their shit slow STB.

On top of that, they would not be able to hack the streams because they're employing RTSP for VOD content along with MAC address filtering. The RTSP requests sends and negotiates username authentication, video play time and is a stateful protocol. The only thing they would be able to receive are the UDP multicasts which are public channels. If anything its much more secure than Astro however has more attack vectors seeing as it is "IP" TV after all.

Looks correct to me but I really cant tell you how to configure it just yet. I have to get my own dd-wrt first then I'll write up a guide for it. But whatever the case, it definitely will be possible via the web interface or by SSH-ing into the router itself. The PPPoE dialer would default to the WAN port I guess so there's no need to set it specifically. If it doesn't work, you can SSH into the router and manually update the dsl-provider file to point to the proper interface.

This post has been edited by rizvanrp: Apr 10 2010, 10:45 PM

okay.. thanks alot (x10000) for the help!! hehehe..

if next time when i got my unifi and encounter some probs i will ask you la...

Some installation pics below. I did say I would post the pics after the installation but I was too engrossed with utilizing UniFi hence the delay.
Raw from my Nokia 5800 XM:


posted this earlier but now the post is missing.



This post has been edited by cannavaro: Apr 11 2010, 12:55 AM

ooo...i have been enlightened more..

ipohbee... always complaining about the wrong stuff. TM is waiving the cost for new hardware and you are still complaining. perhaps TM is getting the modems for a discounted price; you have to consider their position as well.

rivanrp has also hacked the IPTV system and have it streamed across the network. some if not most of the channels are not encrypted.

i read that routers with gigabit switch cannot support vlan tagging even with dd-wrt

Adding VLAN support is just a matter of having the proper kernel module loaded. VLANs afterall are created simply by adding a small amount of bytes after the Ethernet layer to match the 802.1q spec.

I'm also looking into the possibility of using a smart 5 port switch with VLAN support (netgear prosafe plus gs105e) to handle the VLAN layer so people without dd-wrt users will still be able to use their own router without having to buy a dd-wrt compatible one. I think it should be possible.

One additional benefit of using your own hardware is performance. According to smallnetbuilder, the dir-615 suffers from bandwidth stability issues when you use multiple connections. I'm testing direct PPPoE links on my VIP20 package at the moment with 10x HTTP threads. What I've seen is a 400KB/s performance gain. While my HTTP downloads maxed out @ 1.60MB/s with 10 threads via the DIR-615, a direct fiberhome modem connection is giving me 2.00MB/s flat out in the same situation. I'm not going to 'confirm' these results yet but thats what I'm experiencing at the moment -- hopefully its something I've overlooked and not the fault of the DIR-615 that TM provides. Can even be because its about 6.00am right now and there are less users on

This post has been edited by rizvanrp: Apr 11 2010, 06:36 AM

As long as they router itself have VLAN should be fine

Having dd-wrt is a plus :-)

WRT610N v2 and tagged VLAN






What model wireless router with gigabit lan ports will support vlan? My dad is going to kill me since I just begged him too buy me an expensive router.

@rizzy

how is the setup with smart switch? fibermodem to 5 port switch, then connect 1 port from switch to own router and another port from switch to set top box for iptv?

Anyone know if we can use our own routers in place of the D-Link one provided? Want to go back to using my Airport Extreme. Am having trouble getting the D-Link to play nice with my Apple TV.

This post has been edited by Shanks: Apr 11 2010, 12:05 PM

YUP!! AGREE!!

I read it here http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php...82c0572b7e74125

So can WRT610N use vlan? I think mine is ver 1 not ver 2, still can?
I read a little bit for flashing DD-WRT but still not confident to try it. If failed my whole family will kill me, except my mom.

hmm.. from what the forum said.. wrt610n is kinda shaky... i suggest you buy the wrt310n.. since (to me) the VLAN tagging works and its not *that* expensive la.. hehehe.. u still can reach 270mbps using the wrt310n... unless you want dual band??

btw.. flashing dd-wrt on a linksys is EASY... trust me

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/lanw...riefly-reviewed

Here I was looking at LYN pricelists and I agree its kinda of hard to find a gigabit wireless N router with full dd-wrt support. As you can see, the GS105E supports VLAN tagging and port mirroring. So the setup would be.. Fiberhome modem -> GS105E (Port 1). Then you set up VLAN ID 500 on port 2 and VLAN ID 600 on port 3. Port 2 will then be able to connect into *any* Wireless router with a WAN/Internet port that supports PPPoE connections. Port 3 would hook up into the STB for IPTV access.

This is what I'm guessing should work based on my tests. The Fiberhome modem basically sends 2 VLANs over the same Cat5 cable so your hardware has to assign each VLAN to a different port in order to use the services.

About the forum thread, what the guy means is basically dd-wrt has no software support for VLANs on gigabit switches. Which is weird because tweiyang11 is using the WRT310N.. maybe the GUI says it supports VLANs but it doesn't actually work? Anyway.. if you dont want to risk flashing your router, you will need a piece of hardware to handle the VLAN tagging and I think the GS105E switch is capable of doing that @ the cost of 60USD. Gonna pick one up soon and test it out

ya... i was thinking of that also.. maybe the GUI says can.. but in actual fact it cant do VLAN tagging.. until now i cant test it out cuz my area is not ready for unifi yet... but i still got two other routers (buffalo & WRT54g) that *might* support vlan since its megabit switch only..

Really this is very confusing for me. I can feel the vomit in my mouth sometimes after reading. DD-WRT got mega, micro, mini, eko, brainslayer, K26, K24 version

Aiiiigh, I want to ask. That Fibermodem got 4 Lan port, that means it has a switch right?
Why can't we set it so Port 1 is for internet (Vlan 500) and can connect any router we want and set Port 2 (Vlan 600) for IPTV and connect to the set top box? Even my ADSL modem got simple routing function which I disabled sigh.

I mention this is because the VOIP is straight from Fibermodem to the Dect Phone. That means it can segregate (Vlan 700, assuming not sure) as VOIP into the telephone port.

Yes, that would be the simple solution. I've thought of this before however we users don't have access to the Fiberhome console (it runs embedded Unix/Linux.. didn't really see enough to tell the difference). I mentioned a few pages earlier that I noticed the TM installers using a USB<->Ethernet converter to connect into the Fiberhome modem and start up a shell to configure it. TM doesn't even want us to access the SSH and telnet daemon on the DLink router, its highly unlikely that they want us to access the Fiberhome modem.