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post Apr 14 2010, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(jalan2 @ Apr 14 2010, 06:34 PM)
Malaysia land area is 330,000 sq km; Singapore only 700 sq km !!

What does that mean?? That means they just spend little bit of money, can wire up EVERYONE with 50mb & charge cheaper fees...

here in Malaysia, TM has to put cabling over a land area 450+ times bigger, which also includes difficult terrain like mountains, rivers, jungles, & large areas where very few people have homes. That's why we have much lesser capabilities in terms of infrastructure.... somemore you know Singapore is very much richer than us economically.

I hope you can see & understand the situation better now.......
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ya betul tu.........SIngapore is only as big as Arau town......how to compare with Malaysia. doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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post Apr 14 2010, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(jalan2 @ Apr 14 2010, 06:34 PM)
Malaysia land area is 330,000 sq km; Singapore only 700 sq km !!

What does that mean?? That means they just spend little bit of money, can wire up EVERYONE with 50mb & charge cheaper fees...

here in Malaysia, TM has to put cabling over a land area 450+ times bigger, which also includes difficult terrain like mountains, rivers, jungles, & large areas where very few people have homes. That's why we have much lesser capabilities in terms of infrastructure.... somemore you know Singapore is very much richer than us economically.

I hope you can see & understand the situation better now.......
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Then can we take any town / city in Malaysia to compare with Singapore?

If that is not fair enough, can we take any City in Malaysia to compare with City in China?

Malaysian government can always find lame excuse to be uncompetitive.
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post Apr 14 2010, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(CKKwan @ Apr 14 2010, 10:11 PM)
Then can we take any town / city in Malaysia to compare with Singapore?

If that is not fair enough, can we take any City in Malaysia to compare with City in China?

Malaysian government can always find lame excuse to be uncompetitive.
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i'll just quote you to show how dumbass u looked.

how can u compare any city in malaysia with singapore when singapore concentrates ALL its economy on ONE city while Malaysia needs to distribute the economy to 14 STATES?

maybe you should actually GO to the countries you proud enough before making assumption? And u think all cities in china is 1st world standard..hahaha!

This post has been edited by Hanzo: Apr 14 2010, 10:44 PM
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post Apr 14 2010, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(jalan2 @ Apr 14 2010, 06:34 PM)
Malaysia land area is 330,000 sq km; Singapore only 700 sq km !!

What does that mean?? That means they just spend little bit of money, can wire up EVERYONE with 50mb & charge cheaper fees...

here in Malaysia, TM has to put cabling over a land area 450+ times bigger, which also includes difficult terrain like mountains, rivers, jungles, & large areas where very few people have homes. That's why we have much lesser capabilities in terms of infrastructure.... somemore you know Singapore is very much richer than us economically.

I hope you can see & understand the situation better now.......
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i notice this but then again america can wired up fibre optic whole country even have FREE WiFi broandband at average speed 2MB new york area or old york i dont now since it just a splah in the net i read shocking.gif FREE!!

@hanzo i know not all cities i 1 stand dart...but think again do we have standart? shakehead.gif

This post has been edited by KAHAK: Apr 14 2010, 10:46 PM
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post Apr 14 2010, 10:47 PM

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post Apr 14 2010, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(vivre @ Apr 14 2010, 10:47 PM)
Come on guys! Stick to the topic! Haiyoo ~~

Tembak smua then gantung kat pokok yang ada kerengga kang! AKu sudah EMO neh..

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ok back to topic if example my bro(BOSS) have office streamyx 4MB want to get bizVIP5 can just add RM9 and get Unifi+IPTV?? drool.gif
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post Apr 14 2010, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(CKKwan @ Apr 14 2010, 10:11 PM)
Then can we take any town / city in Malaysia to compare with Singapore?

If that is not fair enough, can we take any City in Malaysia to compare with City in China?

Malaysian government can always find lame excuse to be uncompetitive.
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i think you don't understand economics, or the real world.

TM cannot just wire-up KL or Penang and just ignore everywhere else in Malaysia; as Hanzo explained.

If you have 2 parents (Family A) earning $200,000 & have only 1 child; compared to another family (B) where they earn $50,000 with 8 children, do you think these 9 kids have the same education & benefits? Surely the 1 rich kid (A) can afford Ipods, PS3, swimming at clubs,private school, etc. The other 8 kids (B) will have a totally different lifestyle.... or you think the parents can just help 1 kid & leave the other 7 kids with nothing??????

in other words, imagine TM only put fibre in KL & everyone in KL get 50mbs internet, but the rest of malaysia no need any wiring, no need phones, no need communication....?

That's what happen if you say "just compare any city in Malaysia to Singapore".... btw, you may not be aware that Singapore is a COUNTRY, not just a city.


As for China, if you're thinking of comparing KL (2 million) to Beijing (22 million) or Shanghai (17 million), of course the logistics & business opportunity makes it worth to invest billions in China where the potential customers is 10 times more. When Celcom first started business, they actually set-up telecom companies in China, where 1 small China city earn more revenue than the entire Malaysia. Even a "small city" like Shenzhen (by China standards) has over 8 million population... that's 400% bigger than KL, or 1600% bigger than Ipoh!

If you still don't understand basic economics & business logistics, i'm sorry you'll have to go somewhere else to learn this.........

This post has been edited by jalan2: Apr 14 2010, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE(jalan2 @ Apr 14 2010, 11:15 PM)
i think you don't understand economics, or the real world.

TM cannot just wire-up KL or Penang and just ignore everywhere else in Malaysia; as Hanzo explained.

If you have 2 parents (Family A) earning $200,000 & have only 1 child; compared to another family (B) where they earn $50,000 with 8 children, do you think these 9 kids have the same education & benefits? Surely the 1 rich kid (A) can afford Ipods, PS3, swimming at clubs,private school, etc. The other 8 kids (B) will have a totally different lifestyle.... or you think the parents can just help 1 kid & leave the other 7 kids with nothing??????

in other words, imagine TM only put fibre in KL & everyone in KL get 50mbs internet, but the rest of malaysia no need any wiring, no need phones, no need communication....?

That's what happen if you say "just compare any city in Malaysia to Singapore".... btw, you may not be aware that Singapore is a COUNTRY, not just a city.
As for China, if you're thinking of comparing KL (2 million) to Beijing (22 million) or Shanghai (17 million), of course the logistics & business opportunity makes it worth to invest billions in China where the potential customers is 10 times more. When Celcom first started business, they actually set-up telecom companies in China, where 1 small China city earn more revenue than the entire Malaysia. Even a "small city" like Shenzhen (by China standards) has over 8 million population... that's 400% bigger than KL, or 1600% bigger than Ipoh!

If you still don't understand basic economics & business logistics, i'm sorry you'll have to go somewhere else to learn this.........
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expert in business wah maybe got PHd hi proff!!! an how u know this? i think of living in SG but then again SG racist on malay and malaysian! whistling.gif

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QUOTE(jalan2 @ Apr 14 2010, 06:34 PM)
Malaysia land area is 330,000 sq km; Singapore only 700 sq km !!

What does that mean?? That means they just spend little bit of money, can wire up EVERYONE with 50mb & charge cheaper fees...

here in Malaysia, TM has to put cabling over a land area 450+ times bigger, which also includes difficult terrain like mountains, rivers, jungles, & large areas where very few people have homes. That's why we have much lesser capabilities in terms of infrastructure.... somemore you know Singapore is very much richer than us economically.

I hope you can see & understand the situation better now.......
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Malaysia got oil and singapore dont have.

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post Apr 14 2010, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(KAHAK @ Apr 8 2010, 09:48 PM)
TM want to aim 750k house have this kind of so called "fibre optic unlimited broadband" but until now only got 500++ people going for UniFI @ka UniFail!!!
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laugh die me
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post Apr 14 2010, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(sg999 @ Apr 14 2010, 11:32 PM)
laugh die me
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eh spread the word!! BOIKOT UNIFI rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

heheh
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post Apr 14 2010, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(KAHAK @ Apr 14 2010, 11:31 PM)
expert in business wah maybe got PHd hi proff!!! an how u know this? i think of living in SG but then again SG racist on malay and malaysian! whistling.gif
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Bro, there are still malay and malaysian staying in Singapore, Just like how other races live in this country. It's a matter of adaptation for survival. If you can't adapt well, you cannot compete and win. I rest my case.

Back to the topic. I'm interested on the free nationwide calls as my parents would benefit long distances calls. What bothers me is on the data cap. What happens if we exceeds the amount?
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QUOTE(Vervain @ Apr 14 2010, 11:43 PM)
Bro, there are still malay and malaysian staying in Singapore, Just like how other races live in this country. It's a matter of adaptation for survival. If you can't adapt well, you cannot compete and win. I rest my case.

Back to the topic. I'm interested on the free nationwide calls as my parents would benefit long distances calls. What bothers me is on the data cap. What happens if we exceeds the amount?
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phone got data cap?? are u sure? it is unlimited ma but screamyx is not "unlimited" it is limited to your line quality and SNR margins drool.gif
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I believe calls are made via VOIP. TM aint that stupid on not including the VOIP data. They would find various ways of milking money from consumer. Yeah for now it's not capped. Once the bandwidth data limitation is imposed, what will the ISP do if a customer exceeds it's bandwidth usage? A, stop their service, B, Data rates applies hence additional cost or C, throttle speed.

Screamyx IMO, depends on # of users within that region. I still remember from my kampung area, I can get reasonable speeds, Nowadays in big cities, speeds are rather pathetic.
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my kampong now no streamyx calbe being potong by penagih dadah so T wont come fix anymore.
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post Apr 15 2010, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(KAHAK @ Apr 14 2010, 10:50 PM)
ok back to topic if example my bro(BOSS) have office streamyx 4MB want to get bizVIP5 can just add RM9 and get Unifi+IPTV?? drool.gif
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The BIZ package does not have IPTV. AFAIK, offices cannot get VIP packages.

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post Apr 15 2010, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(mylinear @ Apr 15 2010, 11:56 AM)
The BIZ package does not have IPTV. AFAIK, offices cannot get VIP packages.
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get VIP10 MB get IPTV?
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post Apr 15 2010, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(KAHAK @ Apr 15 2010, 04:16 PM)
get VIP10 MB  get IPTV?
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Not sure what you mean. VIP packages has IPTV. BIZ packages does not.

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QUOTE(jalan2 @ Apr 14 2010, 11:15 PM)
i think you don't understand economics, or the real world.

TM cannot just wire-up KL or Penang and just ignore everywhere else in Malaysia; as Hanzo explained.

If you have 2 parents (Family A) earning $200,000 & have only 1 child; compared to another family (B) where they earn $50,000 with 8 children, do you think these 9 kids have the same education & benefits? Surely the 1 rich kid (A) can afford Ipods, PS3, swimming at clubs,private school, etc. The other 8 kids (B) will have a totally different lifestyle.... or you think the parents can just help 1 kid & leave the other 7 kids with nothing??????

in other words, imagine TM only put fibre in KL & everyone in KL get 50mbs internet, but the rest of malaysia no need any wiring, no need phones, no need communication....?

That's what happen if you say "just compare any city in Malaysia to Singapore".... btw, you may not be aware that Singapore is a COUNTRY, not just a city.
As for China, if you're thinking of comparing KL (2 million) to Beijing (22 million) or Shanghai (17 million), of course the logistics & business opportunity makes it worth to invest billions in China where the potential customers is 10 times more. When Celcom first started business, they actually set-up telecom companies in China, where 1 small China city earn more revenue than the entire Malaysia. Even a "small city" like Shenzhen (by China standards) has over 8 million population... that's 400% bigger than KL, or 1600% bigger than Ipoh!

If you still don't understand basic economics & business logistics, i'm sorry you'll have to go somewhere else to learn this.........
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I would like to think of parents of Family B under-reports their fortunes, spends their money in only god-knows-where, lie to their 8 children who they think are dumb, ask them shut up and always be thankful for what they have, threaten them with oppressive family regulations whenever the children questions them, never compare with better families, threaten their children to go to other families if they don't like it in B, incompetent, the list goes on...

I would say ending the monopoly would be a good start for a better infrastructure in the future.
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QUOTE(lohmk @ Apr 15 2010, 07:44 PM)
I would like to think of parents of Family B under-reports their fortunes, spends their money in only god-knows-where, lie to their 8 children who they think are dumb, ask them shut up and always be thankful for what they have, threaten them with oppressive family regulations whenever the children questions them, never compare with better families, threaten their children to go to other families if they don't like it in B, incompetent, the list goes on...

I would say ending the monopoly would be a good start for a better infrastructure in the future.
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