Malaysia land area is 330,000 sq km; Singapore only 700 sq km !!

What does that mean?? That means they just spend little bit of money, can wire up EVERYONE with 50mb & charge cheaper fees...

here in Malaysia, TM has to put cabling over a land area 450+ times bigger, which also includes difficult terrain like mountains, rivers, jungles, & large areas where very few people have homes. That's why we have much lesser capabilities in terms of infrastructure.... somemore you know Singapore is very much richer than us economically.

I hope you can see & understand the situation better now.......

i think you don't understand economics, or the real world.

TM cannot just wire-up KL or Penang and just ignore everywhere else in Malaysia; as Hanzo explained.

If you have 2 parents (Family A) earning $200,000 & have only 1 child; compared to another family (B) where they earn $50,000 with 8 children, do you think these 9 kids have the same education & benefits? Surely the 1 rich kid (A) can afford Ipods, PS3, swimming at clubs,private school, etc. The other 8 kids (B) will have a totally different lifestyle.... or you think the parents can just help 1 kid & leave the other 7 kids with nothing??????

in other words, imagine TM only put fibre in KL & everyone in KL get 50mbs internet, but the rest of malaysia no need any wiring, no need phones, no need communication....?

That's what happen if you say "just compare any city in Malaysia to Singapore".... btw, you may not be aware that Singapore is a COUNTRY, not just a city.


As for China, if you're thinking of comparing KL (2 million) to Beijing (22 million) or Shanghai (17 million), of course the logistics & business opportunity makes it worth to invest billions in China where the potential customers is 10 times more. When Celcom first started business, they actually set-up telecom companies in China, where 1 small China city earn more revenue than the entire Malaysia. Even a "small city" like Shenzhen (by China standards) has over 8 million population... that's 400% bigger than KL, or 1600% bigger than Ipoh!

If you still don't understand basic economics & business logistics, i'm sorry you'll have to go somewhere else to learn this.........

This post has been edited by jalan2: Apr 14 2010, 11:23 PM

OKlah, just to reply to your very bizarre sceanario (which would be a good script for a cantonese soap-opera):

Lets say both family A and B have the SAME income. Same question applies: would the 8 kids in B have the same standard of living as the 1 kid in A???

That is more relevant to the original question that was asked; i.e. why Singapore (700 sq km) can have 50mbs while Malaysia (330,000 sq km) have lousy streamy line.

No, we're not talking sktscraper or LRT... just telecoms line.

I hope you will re-read original question to understand the real question. Getting 56k to most of Malaysia is NOT FREE. If it cost, say, $2 billion to do that, that's $2 billion that Singapore DID NOT NEED TO SPEND, becos they don't have rest of the country except their own measly 700sq km land area, while TM has to cover even 10% of our 330,000 sq km.

.... and while its nice to say "just get 10 people to subscribe VIP20", well I'm sure you're thinking you are one of the 10? Tell me honestly, is it OK for 10 people (not you) to enjoy VIP20, while the rest of us (i think including you, me, and most of the people in this Forum!) to have 56k....??

Well, even if you don't mind that (becos you're a really nice guy), I really doubt the rest of Malaysia willing to sacrifice their access to hi-speed (oklah, 1 - 4mbs can say hi-speed lah) just so that only a small group of people (oklah, lets say 500,000 people for argument's sake) who happen to stay in KL can enjoy that VIP20 line....!?!?

As a side topic: you say rural area do not need Unifi..... why is that? are Malaysians in rural areas less ambitious/ less smart/ less desirous than city people? Who you think will dare make that decision to tell TM "hey, stop all fibre cabling outside the cities.... no need to give Unifi to rural area becos they don't need it".... the PM? CEO of TM? Really?

Would anybody now staying in rural area please reply to say its OK if TM just forget about giving Unifi to your home..... I'm sure we'll get very interesting results from that poll

anyway, all i said is just for sembang-sembang kosong sake, nothing serious lah.. whatever it is, this is all we got & we just have to live with it .......





This post has been edited by jalan2: Apr 16 2010, 12:52 AM

ha ha ha... that's very funny!

you know, when i had to vote in the last election, i have to decide to tick either:

a) the moron who's cheating us of our hard-earned money, or
b) the idiot who wants that post so he can cheat us of our hard-earned money!

either way, the rakyat loses.............

If those &^*^#&%#^* people were as competent as Singapore government the last 50 years, perhaps I might be enjoying 50mbs internet after all........ sigh...

ha ha ha ha..... now you have changed it from cantonese soap opera to a Bollywood movie, ha ha ha.......