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post Mar 31 2010, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(xpresside @ Mar 31 2010, 12:59 PM)
i need my football! cannot cancel astro yet
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and for that bro, we mareshianz have what we called KEDAI MAMAK!!!
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QUOTE(TakanoKyohei @ Mar 31 2010, 01:48 PM)
yeah its true silver, i think we need someone to send an email to them, or maybe all of us send an email to them and ask them to put more channel into the IPTV. as for me my housemate dont want to apply this hsbb because there is no sport channel and also Learning TV like National GEO, History and etc. if have those we will change since i and my friend use internet for only gaming and download. some of them watching sport and Nat Geo.
comes guys. let send an email to them regarding this... or maybe they have read from here and try to take an action to add more channel?
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yeah, astro got the channel for sport and astro only can broadcast it  sweat.gif
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I'm not much of a TV watcher myself, I prefer to go cinemas or do series marathon with friends.

I also don't watch sports channels, but I can see the value in getting sports channels for IPTV, its almost a necessity considering how much people love their sports. I would easily settle for discovery and nat geo smile.gif
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post Mar 31 2010, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(xpresside @ Mar 31 2010, 12:59 PM)
i need my football! cannot cancel astro yet
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first i thought i needed the sports channels, then i realized that i only watch live Man Utd matches so there are a few options there:

a. those free albeit perhaps illegal online live streaming like PPPstreaming
b. Mamak or MCD

you see... the cost associated with astro's sports channel (RM35+ if im not mistaken) is not worth the money for me and my family. so, cancel~

QUOTE(silverhawk @ Mar 31 2010, 01:29 PM)
If IPTV had good sports channels, you would see people jumping on to subscribe laugh.gif
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but i cant deny this smile.gif i know that malaysians love the sports channel smile.gif
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post Mar 31 2010, 04:59 PM

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Hey, powerfulcool where is your area?
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post Mar 31 2010, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(powerfulcool @ Mar 31 2010, 01:07 PM)
signed up anyway. dont have the same concerns you lots have biggrin.gif

installation tentatively on the 5th of April.
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60gb become 20gb
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post Mar 31 2010, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(BlueWind @ Mar 31 2010, 04:59 PM)
Hey, powerfulcool where is your area?
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I'm staying in Subang. At first wanna try 4mbps streamyx but my line attentuation very high so im sure the line wont be stable as it is now at 1mbps.

QUOTE(sg999 @ Mar 31 2010, 06:13 PM)
60gb become 20gb
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mane ada hehehe.. give TM some credit lah.. eventually everyone needs to jump for FTTH right? even now there's no limit on download per month. i wont push it la, last month i downloaded 100GB only and that's because i bought a new HDD...

so yeah, ill simply be enjoying this service for a longer period compared to you guys hehehe

you guys protest, make the service better, while ill enjoy the ride ok? i dont see how it can be worse than strreamyx for the price; not to mention free phone calls, 10cents/minute to mobile, free IPTV with cheap movies and other shows on demand, and stable 5Mbps internet...

cant beat that... 60GB limit? big deal (and no limit till end of year)

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tl;dr version: I'm thinking positively, the concerns you lot have is nothing but a small pebble <--- i dont mean it in a bad way, your concerns are valid so long as it applies to you.
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post Mar 31 2010, 07:50 PM

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Hey, powerfulcool where is your area?
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I'm staying in Subang. At first wanna try 4mbps streamyx but my line attentuation very high so im sure the line wont be stable as it is now at 1mbps.

QUOTE(sg999 @ Mar 31 2010, 06:13 PM)
60gb become 20gb
dun cry drool.gif
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mane ada hehehe.. give TM some credit lah.. eventually everyone needs to jump for FTTH right? even now there's no limit on download per month. i wont push it la, last month i downloaded 100GB only and that's because i bought a new HDD...

so yeah, ill simply be enjoying this service for a longer period compared to you guys hehehe

you guys protest, make the service better, while ill enjoy the ride ok? i dont see how it can be worse than strreamyx for the price; not to mention free phone calls, 10cents/minute to mobile, free IPTV with cheap movies and other shows on demand, and stable 5Mbps internet...

cant beat that... 60GB limit? big deal (and no limit till end of year)

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tl;dr version: I'm thinking positively, the concerns you lot have is nothing but a small pebble <--- i dont mean it in a bad way, your concerns are valid so long as it applies to you.


I think tmnut is kinda putting you on drugs and let you enjoy for a while then when you're hooked there's no turning back even if they put a 10gb cap or raise the price. tongue.gif

Seriously,i am a bit envy about the speeds and at least i can see how things play out first before considering to subscribe(Q4 here). icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(powerfulcool @ Mar 31 2010, 06:31 PM)
I'm staying in Subang. At first wanna try 4mbps streamyx but my line attentuation very high so im sure the line wont be stable as it is now at 1mbps.
mane ada hehehe.. give TM some credit lah.. eventually everyone needs to jump for FTTH right? even now there's no limit on download per month. i wont push it la, last month i downloaded 100GB only and that's because i bought a new HDD...

so yeah, ill simply be enjoying this service for a longer period compared to you guys hehehe

you guys protest, make the service better, while ill enjoy the ride ok? i dont see how it can be worse than strreamyx for the price; not to mention free phone calls, 10cents/minute to mobile, free IPTV with cheap movies and other shows on demand, and stable 5Mbps internet...

cant beat that... 60GB limit? big deal (and no limit till end of year)

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tl;dr version: I'm thinking positively, the concerns you lot have is nothing but a small pebble <--- i dont mean it in a bad way, your concerns are valid so long as it applies to you.
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Exactly in which area Subang?
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post Mar 31 2010, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(Neptern @ Mar 31 2010, 07:50 PM)
I think tmnut is kinda putting you on drugs and let you enjoy for a while then when you're hooked there's no turning back even if they put a 10gb cap or raise the price. tongue.gif

Seriously,i am a bit envy about the speeds and at least i can see how things play out first before considering to subscribe(Q4 here). icon_rolleyes.gif
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You can always switch to the lower biz5 plan which had no cap is really concern on the bandwidth cap. As I ask the guy in tm point today, he confirm that its ok to do so. Just sign up my vip10 package today.
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QUOTE(Neptern @ Mar 31 2010, 07:50 PM)
I think tmnut is kinda putting you on drugs and let you enjoy for a while then when you're hooked there's no turning back even if they put a 10gb cap or raise the price. tongue.gif

Seriously,i am a bit envy about the speeds and at least i can see how things play out first before considering to subscribe(Q4 here). icon_rolleyes.gif
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alalala, they are not that stupid le; none of you guys are giving them any credit. at least they responded to the public outcry about the low cap. as of now they will take their time to determine the right amount of cap. im not the least worried, i dont even think 60GB is too little...

QUOTE(BlueWind @ Mar 31 2010, 08:03 PM)
Exactly in which area Subang?
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QUOTE(sniperwolf @ Mar 31 2010, 10:47 PM)
You can always switch to the lower biz5 plan which had no cap is really concern on the bandwidth cap. As I ask the guy in tm point today, he confirm that its ok to do so. Just sign up my vip10 package today.
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so residental customers can opt for BIZ packages too? confirm?

as of now, without the caps on VIP package, i dont see why anyone would want to register for BIZ unless required by TM smile.gif

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You can always switch to the lower biz5 plan which had no cap is really concern on the bandwidth cap. As I ask the guy in tm point today, he confirm that its ok to do so. Just sign up my vip10 package today.


Biz package no need company name meh?Company name need money to register also leh...

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alalala, they are not that stupid le; none of you guys are giving them any credit. at least they responded to the public outcry about the low cap. as of now they will take their time to determine the right amount of cap. im not the least worried, i dont even think 60GB is too little...


Even before commercial release there are already beta testers testing out unifi and they can't figure it out during the trial period?

I think this is a marketing ploy to make people subscribe(a very bad one indeed).Give a low cap then ppl complain then take out the cap for a time being to make tons of people to subscribe.After that do market skimming to milk us with higher prices then only lower the price and implement cap.

Just my 2 cents of course. hmm.gif



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QUOTE(Neptern @ Apr 1 2010, 12:10 AM)
Biz package no need company name meh?Company name need money to register also leh...
Even before commercial release there are already beta testers testing out unifi and they can't figure it out during the trial period?

I think this is a marketing ploy to make people subscribe(a very bad one indeed).Give a low cap then ppl complain then take out the cap for a time being to make tons of people to subscribe.After that  do market skimming to milk us with higher prices then only lower the price and implement cap.

Just my 2 cents of course.  hmm.gif
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not at all. trial period only to root out technical problems. there were only about 120 testers in subang area, dont tell me you expect them to determine usage pasterns from this small a sample.

cap is the way of the future lah, bandwidth is not infinite, if a small percentage of users are using a large majority of bandwidth, it wouldnt be fair to the rest right?
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not at all. trial period only to root out technical problems. there were only about 120 testers in subang area, dont tell me you expect them to determine usage pasterns from this small a sample.

cap is the way of the future lah, bandwidth is not infinite, if a small percentage of users are using a large majority of bandwidth, it wouldnt be fair to the rest right?


We'll see about that.Hopefully they are more reasonable with the caps... nod.gif

Even using streamyx now with throttling everywhere it still feels kinda slow...just ok for surfing only....
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Not everyone have the time to watch IPTV.So it should be consider an optional.The main isn't the cap but it's the price.
Why they wanted to promote 5mb with caps ? if it's highspeed with caps , why not make it 1mb without caps for HSBB ?

We all just want a smooth connection of internet , even 2mb is enough for most of house user even for those download a lot.we just want a smooth internet accessing international website , not like streamyx blocking youtube and etc and even dare to day 20% user take up 80% bandwidth where they can't even upgrade their bandwidth.
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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Apr 1 2010, 01:47 AM)
Not everyone have the time to watch IPTV.So it should be consider an optional.The main isn't the cap but it's the price.
Why they wanted to promote 5mb with caps ? if it's highspeed with caps , why not make it 1mb without caps for HSBB ?

We all just want a smooth connection of internet , even 2mb is enough for most of house user even for those download a lot.we just want a smooth internet accessing international website , not like streamyx blocking youtube and etc and even dare to day 20% user take up 80% bandwidth where they can't even upgrade their bandwidth.
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they wont unbundle it because they spent so much of their money to connect each house. also they want to establish a large userbase to reach a critical mass to compete against Astro. that's why they are giving the decoder for free.

be thankful that they arent charging users anything; when you opted for astro did they charge you for the decoder? they used to, and it was expensive. im not sure how about now.

the statement "20% user take up 80% bandwidth" is true among all ISPs; there's always some a/holes, like, many in this thread, who disregard the need of others to use the bandwidth
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QUOTE(powerfulcool @ Apr 1 2010, 11:53 AM)
they wont unbundle it because they spent so much of their money to connect each house. also they want to establish a large userbase to reach a critical mass to compete against Astro. that's why they are giving the decoder for free.

be thankful that they arent charging users anything; when you opted for astro did they charge you for the decoder? they used to, and it was expensive. im not sure how about now.

the statement "20% user take up 80% bandwidth" is true among all ISPs; there's always some a/holes, like, many in this thread, who disregard the need of others to use the bandwidth
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Ya there are ppl who say i buy 10Mbps and i have right to DL 10Mbps 24/7/365 that why cap is must but at accepct able Amount.
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most of them can be found right here actually..
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QUOTE(SHOfrE3zE @ Apr 1 2010, 01:23 PM)
most of them can be found right here actually..
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yeap. that's why this thread was created in the first place.
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QUOTE(powerfulcool @ Apr 1 2010, 11:53 AM)
they wont unbundle it because they spent so much of their money to connect each house. also they want to establish a large userbase to reach a critical mass to compete against Astro. that's why they are giving the decoder for free.

Yes, its a good marketing strategy.

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be thankful that they arent charging users anything; when you opted for astro did they charge you for the decoder? they used to, and it was expensive. im not sure how about now.

Be thankful? Most people don't even want the IPTV in the first place, to them its just extra cost. Remember, nothing is ever truly free, its all calculated as part of the cost already.

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the statement "20% user take up 80% bandwidth" is true among all ISPs; there's always some a/holes, like, many in this thread, who disregard the need of others to use the bandwidth
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I keep hearing this statement, and while its true, what most people don't realize is that the ones making the argument isn't any different from the ones they are criticizing. Both are greedy and selfish and only want things to work well for them. Yes, the heavy downloaders are abusing, but only because the ISP marketed it that way to them.

The light users are also selfish because they want to limit other users so their own experience is better. The only justification they have is that they use less than the heavier ones, failing to take note that their 'light' usage, could be another person's heavy usage. Its all relative. When the international link went down, how many of you "selfless" people stopped using the internet to watch youtube and download files? How many of you thought to yourselves "shit, international line down, perhaps I shouldn't be streaming youtube videos and downloading so others can surf at decent speeds".

So seriously, get off your moral high horses, stop blaming the users, its not their fault to maximise what they paid for.

QUOTE(bai1101 @ Apr 1 2010, 01:18 PM)
Ya there are ppl who say i buy 10Mbps and i have right to DL 10Mbps 24/7/365 that why cap is must but at accepct able Amount.
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People will always try to maximise what they pay for, and that mentality isn't wrong per se. Just that it gets abusive because companies are greedy, they want to cater to these people but at the same time they want to limit them. Abit of a oxymoron.
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