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post Feb 23 2010, 02:14 PM

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post Feb 23 2010, 02:41 PM

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guys, wads the difference between F42 n F58? other than its price...

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QUOTE(lugiamcg @ Feb 23 2010, 02:41 PM)
guys, wads the difference between F42 n F58? other than its price...
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F58 can tilt to left and right (not just up and down).
F58 can produce more powerful lighting illumination.
F58 more bulky and heavy... but cool tongue.gif
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QUOTE(lugiamcg @ Feb 23 2010, 02:41 PM)
guys, wads the difference between F42 n F58? other than its price...
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QUOTE(Banzai_san @ Feb 23 2010, 02:54 PM)
F58 can tilt to left and right (not just up and down).
F58 can produce more powerful lighting illumination.
F58 more bulky and heavy... but cool tongue.gif
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In addition:

F58 can strobe while the F42 cannot
F58 can be used as a wireless commander on the A700/A850/A900 while the F42 cannot
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QUOTE(lugiamcg @ Feb 23 2010, 02:41 PM)
guys, wads the difference between F42 n F58? other than its price...
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F58 produces 58GN particles as 42 to only 42GN particles.
So your subject will exposed to more radiation on F58 over F42

LOL j/k tongue.gif

but yeah, the F58 produce higher flash power over F42
The numbering is actually the GN(?) rating of flash power
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post Feb 23 2010, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(Banzai_san @ Feb 23 2010, 02:54 PM)
F58 can tilt to left and right (not just up and down).
F58 can produce more powerful lighting illumination.
F58 more bulky and heavy... but cool tongue.gif
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QUOTE(shootkk @ Feb 23 2010, 02:57 PM)
In addition:

F58 can strobe while the F42 cannot
F58 can be used as a wireless commander on the A700/A850/A900 while the F42 cannot
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Ah, i see. Thx 4 the info.

Then, what does those numbers(42,58) indicate?

and wads 'wireless commander'? I thought the camera is the one commanding the flash no? Sry yo'...noob here blush.gif
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QUOTE(lugiamcg @ Feb 23 2010, 03:12 PM)
Ah, i see. Thx 4 the info.

Then, what does those numbers(42,58) indicate?

and wads 'wireless commander'? I thought the camera is the one commanding the flash no? Sry yo'...noob here  blush.gif
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wireless commander meaning the F58 can be used to trigger other flash guns wirelessly on A700, A850, A900. On A550 and lower models, to trigger other flash wirelessly is by using the camera built in flash or using a dedicated commander.
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QUOTE(Banzai_san @ Feb 23 2010, 03:21 PM)
wireless commander meaning the F58 can be used to trigger other flash guns wirelessly on A700, A850, A900. On A550 and lower models, to trigger other flash wirelessly is by using the camera built in flash or using a dedicated commander.
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ah, i see.

A lil' double confirmation needed...

Does it mean that a700,850 n 900 can only activate one F58 through wireless? Then, subsequently the F58 will trigger available flashguns?
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post Feb 23 2010, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(e-jump @ Feb 23 2010, 03:10 PM)
F58 produces 58GN particles as 42 to only 42GN particles.
So your subject will exposed to more radiation on F58 over F42

LOL j/k tongue.gif

but yeah, the F58 produce higher flash power over F42
The numbering is actually the GN(?) rating of flash power
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lol, i see

GN?

gotto check it out later =D
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post Feb 23 2010, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(lugiamcg @ Feb 23 2010, 03:39 PM)
ah, i see.

A lil' double confirmation needed...

Does it mean that a700,850 n 900 can only activate one F58 through wireless? Then, subsequently the F58 will trigger available flashguns?
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no~ meaning the F58 mounted on the a700/a850/a900 hotshoe can wireless trigger other multiple F58 or F42~
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QUOTE(Gouki @ Feb 23 2010, 03:54 PM)
no~ meaning the F58 mounted on the a700/a850/a900 hotshoe can wireless trigger other multiple F58 or F42~
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I see. Thx 4 the confirmation. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 23 2010, 05:25 PM

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I used F58 for the cny week, replacing my F42.. I must says controling its direction is so much flexible...

Recharging time improved by a lot! it can strobe too

I still cant figure out how to Trigger my F42, using my F58 on my A700.. try multiple ways but f42 doesnt seem to fired..

Can any1 tell me what thing i need to take note? My F58 Menu is in Chinese/korean I cant read. Any1 can exchange with me english one tongue.gif I find that there is a lot of setting in F58 i havent find out..
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QUOTE(clivengu @ Feb 23 2010, 05:25 PM)
I used F58 for the cny week, replacing my F42.. I must says controling its direction is so much flexible...

Recharging time improved by a lot! it can strobe too

I still cant figure out how to Trigger my F42, using my F58 on my A700.. try multiple ways but f42 doesnt seem to fired..

Can any1 tell me what thing i need to take note? My F58 Menu is in Chinese/korean I cant read. Any1 can exchange with me english one tongue.gif I find that there is a lot of setting in F58 i havent find out..
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actually im really confused in this. If u are using F42 and F58 with TTL, same batt and same environment, the recycle time should be the same right?
What is different is the recycle time at the full output of F42 and F58. Right? yes? no?

Btw, what do u use strobe for? i duno what to do with that function smile.gif....strobe is firing multiple times at high freq right? i dun use that function at all:(

just my 2 cents

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I guess I hit the auto-contrast, then smoothen the skin tone.

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clivengu: LOL why do you have a Korean manual?

Press the Fn button until you see either CTRL, RMT or RMT2. Set F58 to CTRL, press Fn, set Ratio On. If it's not in Channel 1, hold down the Fn button for 3 seconds then go through the menu (quite obvious, this one.)

Set F42 to WL on, channel 1.

Set A700 to WL flash.

Also, refresh time for F42 and F58 at 1/1 power are both 4 seconds. The F36 and F56 are slower.

SpOOkY: For tracking motion on one single exposure.

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hkhk: You could keep it dull but add vignetting and adjust tones on the right.
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albnok : I shall ask you face to face next time how to make nice photos like that. Mine always turn out weird and not that nice. ):
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QUOTE(Sp00kY @ Feb 23 2010, 05:34 PM)
actually im really confused in this. If u are using F42 and F58 with TTL, same batt and same environment, the recycle time should be the same right?
What is different is the recycle time at the full output of F42 and F58. Right? yes? no?

Btw, what do u use strobe for? i duno what to do with that function smile.gif....strobe is firing multiple times at high freq right? i dun use that function at all:(

just my 2 cents
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The F42 and F58 has the same recharge time of 4 secs after firing it at full power. And to answer your question, the recharge time may differ using a F42 and F58 if:

The environment caused the F42 to fire at full power while the F58, with a higher GN, may not need to fire at full power to achieve the same exposure level.

Using the strobe function you can create an effect like multiple exposures in a single frame on a moving object. Granted that you may not have the need to do this much but the function is still there should you need it.
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QUOTE(lugiamcg @ Feb 23 2010, 03:40 PM)
lol, i see

GN?

gotto check it out later =D
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GN stands for Guide Number
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bigger Guide Number means.. in short.. more power..
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QUOTE(electron @ Feb 23 2010, 09:51 AM)
anyone read the PMA announcement at dpreview
sony designing micro-SLR with APS-C sensor with launched planned this year
then there is the display of the A700 successor with AVCHD video recording, along with a smaller model with AVCHD as well (a600 or a580 perhaps)
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alpharians here are wayyyyy faster than you bro biggrin.gif finished discussing it about a couple of pages back

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