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robertngo
post Feb 26 2010, 08:03 AM

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QUOTE(nice.rider @ Feb 26 2010, 01:39 AM)
FS1: Don't build your kitchen at the West

Explanation:
- Morning sunlight from the East is rather mild, and the heat will not spoil the food (In ancient time, the bacteria concept and its grow and its activity against temperature was unknown during the time), this observation of food against Sun movement was recorded. This statement holds true with or without refrigerator in mind.
- West is where the sun setting, heat accumulated throughout the day and the West spot is always the warmest, which is bad for food.

FS2: Build a house located at the North and facing South, and good to have a wall at the North

Explanation:
- This statement/observation is definitely recorded by people who lived in Northern Hemisphere. During winter time, snow and cold wind blows from the North, a wall built at the North would comes in handy here.
- Facing South means doors are good to be built at South, for the same reason above. Snow, cold wind blows into the house if the doors are built facing North. Inconvenience and bad for health too.

I came across these explanation from some articles on the subject. There are not many books referring to reasoning and scientific explanation on the subject nowadays.

My guess is, if someone publishes a book with this kind of explanation, Feng Shui master would have a hard time selling the concepts anymore. It has evolved from impacts of surrounding to human being towards superstitious on how they could impact your wealth, your love life, your health, your everything.....and without a need of explaining why.

Do this, or buy this crystal, whatever you dream of will come true. You only need to pay a small amount to get what you wish for.....how wonderful the deal is.....

For me, Believe in Feng Shui, yes.....Believe in Feng Shui master...probably not.
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the two example are elementary feng shui that help to make a better house to live in but today feng shui master dont focus on these, they spend alot of time focus on placing stuff arround the house to improve your luck. out of the many client there is sure some that will have improvement in their health or business after doing what they told and these example will be used to sell more of their service and product. those client that have no improvement will not be mentioned.

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post Feb 26 2010, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(robertngo @ Feb 26 2010, 09:03 AM)
the two example are elementary feng shui that help to make a better house to live in but today feng shui master dont focus on these, they spend alot of time focus on placing stuff arround the house to improve your luck. out of the many client there is sure some that will have improvement in their health or business after doing what they told and these example will be used to sell more of their service and product. those client that have no improvement will not be mentioned.
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So its nothing but a game of BIG/SMALL.

When fengshui service are rendered to let's say 100 household, 50% chances there will be certain "sort" of improvement afterwards (some winning lottery,some getting promotion/raise,health improved). These owners will live-by-fengshui-and-die-by-it, hence helping in promotion. The other 50% might not notice improvement at all, worse even (retrenced,feeling unwell often). Some fengshui master will take the chance to push even more fixes (at a "bigger" price). eventually fate has it, 50% of these bad-luckers might have a +ve turn around in some point of their life, they will be converted yet again into live-by-fengshui-and-die-by-it and advocates this method.


Even without feng shui, people's live changes for better or worse at certain point of their lives (due to fate/luck, their own effort,common sense etc). There are many "scam" to bank in on this certainty and profit hugely from it (same like magic rocks with magnetic healing power/water with extra health boosting multiple disease curing properties)

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post Feb 27 2010, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(robertngo @ Feb 26 2010, 08:03 AM)
the two example are elementary feng shui that help to make a better house to live in but today feng shui master dont focus on these, they spend alot of time focus on placing stuff arround the house to improve your luck. out of the many client there is sure some that will have improvement in their health or business after doing what they told and these example will be used to sell more of their service and product. those client that have no improvement will not be mentioned.
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If you read between the line, you would understand my take on this subject:

"It has evolved from impacts of surrounding to human being towards superstitious on how they could impact your wealth, your love life, your health, your everything.....and without a need of explaining why.
Do this, or buy this crystal, whatever you dream of will come true. You only need to pay a small amount to get what you wish for.....how wonderful the deal is.....
For me, Believe in Feng Shui, yes.....Believe in Feng Shui master...probably not"

I am not here to promote/demote FS, I am saying it has evolved from a simpler agriculture society where sun, rivers and land could impact the productivity to money, love, health, success nowadays.

My view is instead of saying Feng Shui master could be a big fat liar and all, why not look at one's own greed, desperately wanting to full fill wishes in fastest way, and do whatever it takes to full fill those dreams.

Another way of looking at these masters is they are like a motivator who motivates the seekers that their life will improve shortly, with a price to pay of course.

Whether we realize it or not, we tend to look for a better location to park our cars, or even cinema seat. Some people goes further and hires master to provide suggestion on their business premises, houses, renovation plan and all. This is the privilege that everyone can have.
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post Feb 27 2010, 07:05 PM

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for me its just superstitious believe
nothing more than that
one can say its been around for hundreds/thousands of years but it who cares
coincidence is the words here
if feng shui works people say "waa, its really true..etc"
if it doesnt everybody keep silence
people saw it that way because they want to saw it that way
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post Feb 28 2010, 04:06 AM

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You consult 10 Feng Shui masters on the same house same person living and you can get 10 distinct Feng Shui advice.
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QUOTE(RwGlmllhpSX @ Feb 28 2010, 04:06 AM)
You consult 10 Feng Shui masters on the same house same person living and you can get 10 distinct Feng Shui advice.
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yes
this is my point, but why society still believe in this shit?
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post Feb 28 2010, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(raul88 @ Feb 28 2010, 12:02 PM)
yes
this is my point, but why society still believe in this shit?
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Because, much like everything else in the world, it has been perverted so badly from its original form that its not recognizable anymore. Purely for the sake of none other than : money.
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QUOTE(raul88 @ Feb 28 2010, 12:02 PM)
yes
this is my point, but why society still believe in this shit?
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$$$



If they so pro why dun make themself wealthy in the first place?

Remember Nina Wong's case?
Her Feng Shui master wanna claim her inheritence against CHARITY

So desperate for money meh....


The point is.... say you're a Feng Shui Master, you consulted 100 people, no need all FARTARD(aka become filthy rich), just 1 turn rich which with or without your advice will still become rich, and he share some portion of wealth with you because he thought you made him fartard.

This is the way it works IMHO. rclxms.gif
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post Mar 3 2010, 12:11 PM

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in terms of desperate for money, yes. There are a lot of people who are desperate for money and will do anything including kidnap and murder to get them. You do not understand why because I am assuming you were brought up in a nice environment where money has not being an issue.

There are people out there who were brought up in such harsh environment that you could never imagine.
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post Mar 4 2010, 11:45 PM

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agree that if feng shui is so powerful those so called master no need to waste time promote like hell and some even try different way to cheat people money. they could just find a auspicious day, time, position, etc and go visit uncle lim place to get $$$$.

maybe one can view feng shui as something that can "improve" luck/health/higher chances of getting something u want.


Added on March 4, 2010, 11:48 pmanyway, i want to ask about Bazi, is it worth to pay ppl money to understand out own Bazi? to understand our future, destiny....

altho this is part of fengshui but i think this should be more "believable"

it's something like astrology right? thanks

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post Mar 5 2010, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(shakiraa @ Mar 4 2010, 11:45 PM)
agree that if feng shui is so powerful those so called master no need to waste time promote like hell and some even try different way to cheat people money. they could just find a auspicious day, time, position, etc and go visit uncle lim place to get $$$$.

maybe one can view feng shui as something that can "improve" luck/health/higher chances of getting something u want.


Added on March 4, 2010, 11:48 pmanyway, i want to ask about Bazi, is it worth to pay ppl money to understand out own Bazi? to understand our future, destiny....

altho this is part of fengshui but i think this should be more "believable"

it's something like astrology right? thanks
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how is astrology/bazi/palm reading/face reading/bone groping/entrail reading/tea leave reading/tulang nujum/etc more believable than feng shui?
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post Mar 5 2010, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(lin00b @ Mar 5 2010, 12:18 AM)
how is astrology/bazi/palm reading/face reading/bone groping/entrail reading/tea leave reading/tulang nujum/etc more believable than feng shui?
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This is just based on experience. Each person is brought up in their own unique environment and surroundings. When one is exposed to let's say bazi a lot during his/her childhood, then he will tend to think bazi is more believable than something new like tea leave reading.

The thing is, if you believe in something like bazi why won't you believe in fengshui? Both are based on non-tangible readings that tell you something about nothing. That is just down right contradicting.
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post Mar 7 2010, 02:06 PM

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fengshui comes from taoism. It's strongly related with (yi jing)易经 and till now not much had come really close to unfold it's mystery. The core and element of it's system way too hard.
If a fengshui fella tells u how great and good his fengshui predictions and if he knows nothing about yi jing or he is partially read on it u could be vary of such fella.
Most fengshui fellas in Malaysia only possess a few trick and tries to earn a living through it. They are nv taugh the right way and most of them learn through by studying books. No matter how talented or clever they are, they are only able to get the concept of fengshui but nv truly know what's the core. That's y most pple believe fengshui is fake because they got the wrong pple to do it for them.
Getting the wrong pple to do fengshui could only mean two possibility.
If ur lucky nothing changes and u can say it's fake which is good.
If you are really unlucky, instead of making you lucky it will spells the opposite. It could also possibly create a curse for your whole generation line.

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For personal reason, i believe feng shui very much. But do not blame everything on feng shui.
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post Mar 11 2010, 12:11 AM

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If you say its non-existantial, you're like saying Chinese traditional medicine is a lie. You're insulting 5000years of wisdom.
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post Mar 11 2010, 01:57 AM

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traditional medicine (unlike fengshui) is often testable and researchable. plenty of scientific test has been done on some traditional medicine. try doing that to fengshui.
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QUOTE(C-Note @ Mar 11 2010, 12:11 AM)
If you say its non-existantial, you're like saying Chinese traditional medicine is a lie. You're insulting 5000years of wisdom.
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what's wrong in insultingquestioning 5000years of wisdom is they are wrong or does not apply to current condition? Just because something is dated back to few thousand years, we must believe it's true?

If we do not ask questions, you think society will improve to be what it is now?


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post Mar 11 2010, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(ekestima @ Mar 11 2010, 12:54 PM)
If u trsut it, its there. If U dun, then u doesnt exist.
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Don't be lame. This has been quote thousand of years. Just because it has been used thousand of years, does not means it's correct. This is PhD thread. You want to quote this, go to religion section.

I trust you will be billionaire one day. Then you will be. Let me know when the day come.

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