same like religion...also have people abusing it for their own agendas like those extremist.

The gambling system designed in casino is such that the banker always have higher odds. Therefore, overall banker will always win. This is nothing to do with fengshui or devil worship.

If need to depend on fengshui for casinos to make money then places like las vegas will be gone already.

Fengshui is more psychological than science and magic.

scientifically proven is a big word. Just because someone claimed to have scientifically proven something doesn't mean it does get scientifically proven. It has to involves scientists acknowledging this proof. Which no FS masters has done.

FS is very much similar to religion. It's all about how convincing the master (preacher) is and how they can smartly link things together that is intangible and then saying smart things when it doesn't work. Just like how religion ask you to first believe in it for it to work. So when it doesn't work, it's your fault cause you did not believe in it. Cause when you already believe in it, you will not be doubting whether it work or not. See...

Houses in T-junction or with address no. 44 is all myth or urban legend. Just because all the horror story has been passed down through generations, people start to convinced it is real. But we as human being will still take it at caution even it we are non-believer. We will still avoid staying in t-junction houses because we are kiasu.

We someone shift into t-junction house, some bad accident happened and people blame it on the t-junction. But when accident happen to someone else in another house, maybe the blame is on the house number. People always have things to blame or praise. That's when fengshui comes in handy.

it's all about how convincing the person doing the talking. And how insecure the person listening.

BTW, the t-junction myth is not just about cars/lorries/motobikes strucking the house. It's also about people living in t-junction houses will get sick/accident/ill/bad luck and so on. This is the BS I am talking about.

in terms of desperate for money, yes. There are a lot of people who are desperate for money and will do anything including kidnap and murder to get them. You do not understand why because I am assuming you were brought up in a nice environment where money has not being an issue.

There are people out there who were brought up in such harsh environment that you could never imagine.

This is just based on experience. Each person is brought up in their own unique environment and surroundings. When one is exposed to let's say bazi a lot during his/her childhood, then he will tend to think bazi is more believable than something new like tea leave reading.

The thing is, if you believe in something like bazi why won't you believe in fengshui? Both are based on non-tangible readings that tell you something about nothing. That is just down right contradicting.

what's wrong in insultingquestioning 5000years of wisdom is they are wrong or does not apply to current condition? Just because something is dated back to few thousand years, we must believe it's true?

If we do not ask questions, you think society will improve to be what it is now?


This post has been edited by abubin: Mar 11 2010, 12:38 PM

Don't be lame. This has been quote thousand of years. Just because it has been used thousand of years, does not means it's correct. This is PhD thread. You want to quote this, go to religion section.

I trust you will be billionaire one day. Then you will be. Let me know when the day come.

This post has been edited by abubin: Mar 11 2010, 01:12 PM

House facing direction have a lot of explanations. Some say facing sun too much, you get too much yang energy. Burn your luck and so on. But in real fengshui world, it is not about facing sun or not. It is facing direction derived from eight mansion. This eight mansion actually means the eight direction of the compass. Each year, the different direction will yield different luck. So, one year you are having great luck does not mean forever. On top of that yearly luck, there will also be luck for the next 20 years. This is derived from flying star of fengshui if not mistaken. From this school, it says if you house face certain direction, it will yield certain luck that last for 20 years. There are also more schools of teaching to apply which end up you get a lot of complexity where one says good luck and another says bad luck for a particular day, month or year.

That is why when you have bad luck in that house or room, there are always faults that can be found. Since it is so subjective, the fengshui master will calculate this and that and in the end, there will always be a reason why the RM5000 crystal you bought doesn't work. But when something good happened, the fengshui will take the credit. You did the right thing placing the crystal there that bring you good fortune and blah blah blah.

That is why I don't believe in all these fengshui, astrology, religion mumbojumbo. It's all clever marketing with loophole that cannot be proven.

Nicely put. I really hate this because it affects other people. That is why people who do not believe need to fight for their rights in this world full of believers. The ironic thing is the majority of them are doing it because it was forced on them through their growing up environment and influences. Then when you ask them why they believe, they will say "dunno" cause said so by elders and "no harm" doing it. Now THAT is ignorant.

This post has been edited by abubin: Jul 30 2010, 05:22 PM

should move only in auspicious hour of the day. Make sure non of the animal signs of the people staying in the new house are conflicted. Do space clearing before moving in. Hang red cloth on the door. Move in must boil water from the kitchen and drink to signify moving in. Better if can cook and have dinner also to signify moving in. Turn on all the lights and fans. Create lots of YANG energy. To let the HOUSE know the OWNER is moving in. Some cosmic divine intervention receiver located in everywhere and nowhere will pickup this signal and patch you accordingly.

Or scrap all the above and just bloody move in.

Your choice depending you believe or not. Most people will do the former because "nothing to lose" and for the peace of mind.

May i know what is the law of the world? And what about playing with it? If it is LAW then it is something that can be proven. Can you prove fengshui works?

that is not LAW of the world. It's just elements that exist in the world.

So you are saying fengshuil play with elements of the world like fire, earth, water, energy and so on.

Any that will change one's health, wealth and love?

Bringing that moving house example here. Which part of the waves are affected when people are moving into a house? Basic fengshui masters will say check your "8 pillars" (ba zi) or check your animal signs. Care to explain where the electromagnetic wave comes into play? If those waves are bad during moving in for let's say the father only, then the bad waves linger around father for the rest of his life in that house? Changing the furniture can block the bad wave? Perhaps some part of the house, only good waves will go. Thus father sit in that corner will be safe of back ache?

BTW, if Lillian Too's fengshui is crap then whose is not crap? Joey Yap? Or some hongkong/china fengshui master living in an apartment or wooden house?

This post has been edited by abubin: Aug 20 2010, 04:29 PM

Hot? Heat? Put aircond can solve the problem? Not having good night sleep of course means health issues will arise. Isn't that common sense? What does it has to do with fengshui?

Since when fengshui is a logical thought of things? You look like dead dog means no love life? Isn't that a common sense? Even an uncle on the street who doesn't know about fengshui know that.

Since when does a person have magnetism? How to measure that? There are no fengshui that talks about a person and it's magnetism. Fengshui is about the flow of chi and 7 chakras of a person. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra

so people living in junction will get bad luck all the time unless the block the wind or something?

What if someone who doesn't believe in junction is staying there? Will the bad luck apply to him even if he is black or hispanic? If so bad luck, what happens to existing people staying in junctions?

Never heard of such thing as common man or emperor fengshui...care to elaborate?

Okay then, since fengshui is so simple, give me a tip that will work. Please not those common sense tips of making yourself look good to get love and all.

This post has been edited by abubin: Aug 25 2010, 06:41 PM

As usual...things can be simple and complicated at the same time. I tell you do this and when it doesn't work, there are 1001 reasons why it work for your neigbour but not you. Same thing with religion. Same type of mumbo jumbo that cannot be proven.

If china's emperor is so great as able to change their fengshui or spiritual power then they wouldn't have fallen and conquered by the british and japanese. I am sure you can come up with another explanation for this where there is absolutely no way to proof it.

chemotherapy is one of the method to cure cancer. We know how it works and we are explained in detailed why it doesn't. That is not mumbo jumbo like..oh..it didn't work on you because you do not have enough water element in your birthdate. Or because the wind is not blowing your direction during the therapy and so on.

Explaining how it work it one thing but does it really work?

As for the 12 zodiac signs, I have watched enough experiments that debunk it being fake. Many has done it like kriss angel, richard dawkins and so on. Mix around all the zodiac signs prediction and tell it to the believers and all of them believe it to be prediction of their zodiac sign. Because the predictions are so general.

BTW, I am still waiting for a "simple" fengshui tip that I can apply to make me a believer.

there are no such things as "no problems" in life. Being human living in this world, you are faced with all sort of problems. It is this that makes fengshui so successful because it dwell on such problems and uses remedy that somehow work its way out. It is how a person accept those problems or deal with them. Using logical sense or using divine power beyond infinity. Something like changing some facing direction or placing certain element in places that lack those element. But it doesn't end there. You also need to work for it. Doesn't means you did what was suggested by fengshui master, then you just sit down "goyang kaki" and the wealth will come to you. You still need to work hard for it. Sure....I work hard without those fengshui also I can be successful.

Whichever work for you fine. But I am not fine with this. Because as stated by someone in this thread, all these lousy believes are causing me problems. For eg, I do not have problem living in house at crossroads. But the problem is, when I want to sell that house, I will have hard time selling due to all these believes of crossroad houses are bad. And the value of such houses is lower than just the one next door out of such crossroad.

This post has been edited by abubin: Aug 30 2010, 05:08 PM

Cause everyone is too desperate that they will believe anything anyone tell them.

Try only....you got nothing to lose....that is always the saying. Only buy some charm or statue that cost RM100 only. RM100 more important than you love, health and wealth (get more money)? This is the kind of mentality these fengshui masters are using which does make sense but does it work? That is another story.