I also think what you guys wants (software features, hardware specs) just can't simply integrated into such device AND price level. Sadly, that's the reality of life. I am sure Apple have the full-fledged iPad features in their upcoming Gens. When the time comes ... when they managed to get the economies of scale, they might introduce that "dream" iPad...

I am rolling on the floor laughing at this! What, I have to LIKE everything Apple does to make me a fan!?

Look into my post history. Not to brag or anything, but I believe I hold a larger stake in Apple's survivability and a larger pool of Apple products than your average Apple user here. My wireless VOD system I built for my home is based on Apple's products. I fought tooth and nails to get the iPhones out of NZ. I paid premiums for first dibs on Apple products, while others prefer the wait-n-see.

You see me "complaining", but I say "critique".

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jan 31 2010, 11:07 PM

String - I knew you from MyPDACafe days. You have owned and used more gadgets than most of us here. Thus, I am sure your expectation for the iPad is far beyond than most of us. Yes, I do read your comments that you will still buy this gadget.

But I am not sure whether Apple really hears our critiques...

In the age of Twitter and blogging, any voice loud enough will get their attention. The same happened with MMS inclusion to the iPhone. They wont acknowledge it of course, they cannot ignore it either. Just "Don't Stop Believin'". Journey and the Glee Cast says so.

yes, it's built in inside the OS.

errmm.... by reading back a few post...it makes my eyes tired where this iPad thread tend to get longer and longer debate on the pros and cons.

A few questions:
1) Besides playing games/watching movies/surfing am i able to install microsoft words in it?
2) Any 3rd party accessories such as casing n so on...would like to check on their design

forum supposed to be a placed to discuss so no problem if we voiced out our opinions as long as its not insulting and degrading someone else.

i will never consider buying iPad because i don't see any use for it in my life. but maybe i will if they come with full fledged OSX. i do hope however the 2nd gen will be a better devices. i myself not an apple fan but working many years handling xserve making me somewhat attached to the brand.

as consumer i would by better product for reasonable. i change phone because of need and that guy offer good price. i use video call to talk with my kid. its better can see their faces. some ppl need some ppl dont.

i will buy iPAD if it has all i need/want and also meet my expectation on the design. but for now it just piece of crap.

1) see if microsoft will release office for ipad version. unlikely la i think :S n apple still control what apps will be available
2) most probably apple had just sent out the product measurements to casing manufacturers. we'll see them start selling when the ipad does. no one want to buy now ma ;p

iPad is just so bloody redundant. If you had an iPhone or iPod Touch, what would be the point of carrying an iPad when 90% of what its features is in your pocket already? Plus if you were using it and you wanted to make a phone call, you have to put down your iPad and fish out another device just to make a call.

i do wish i can browsing in larger screen

MID does coming out as a trend, get use to it, whatever you can put inside your pocket is definitely small

the form factor is perfect for iPad, all it need is just software software and software

just like camera, phone camera does quite decent job
but i never use and trust it, because lack of quality

you saying this because you not yet have those new device to adopt in your life, when time is right, you get one, you will feel the different, the needs of big screen

This post has been edited by cRazYee: Feb 1 2010, 03:15 AM

LOL. it is indeed a very hot debate over here.

i was actually "invited" by an associate to witness this travesty amongst apple fanboys; how divided they have gotten over this iPad (the slim, lightweight et cetera gadget and yes the only element missing is wings)

my honest opinion? the way i look at this, is to give the iPad a little run for at least 3 firmware updates before laying down your final judgment.

allow adequate time and feedbacks for apple to tweak and finetune the iPad and if by then, it still cannot prove its (both) monetary and quality worth, it should qualify for cnet's worst gadget of the year.

not pointing fingers or accusing anyone in particular, but from my own personal observation, the public (especially malaysians) have this misconception that apple products are flawless and God-sent. oh come on... seriously?

if i could also share my own observation, the reactions to the iPad mimics the iPhone, when it was first launched.

the number of skeptics were skyrocketing and just looked at how the iPhone has evolved to this date.

people tend to forget that it was (actually) apple's first time venturing into the mobile phone industry and competing head to head with old timers like nokia.

i love listening/reading a good debate, but making speculations before actually seeing/fondling an actual product is seriously not justified.

on an unrelated note, i'm actually trying (very hard) not to be a blind fan boy to be honest. IMHO, a true fanboy, will always try out or evaluate its nearest competitors before making a final conclusion. example? running windows concurrently with my MBP 15", use a blackberry (and i'm hoping to get my hands on the nexus one, by the time it reaches the australian shores)

i'm off guys and have a great federal holiday!

iPAD is not meant for you if...

- You don't like reading eBooks or Word Docs or PDF on a bigger screen
- The small screen of the iPhone/iPod is sufficient enough for your heavy Internet browsing
- You are not a heavy user of email (replying and reading attachment). Only limited to reading email and short replies.
- Your MB/iPhone/iPod already satisfy your needs/wants

We buy iPad not because of its "design" but its functionalities... iPad is not meant to replace your voice or video calls... Otherwise, its called a "Phone" and not a "Pad"...


For some people, its redundant because like I said.... its not meant to replace a Phone. Just like a Macbook...its not meant to replace the iPhone.
For some people, they might say its 90% of iPad features is already in the pocket ... but it depends that 90% is for what usage and what kind of user experience that you might get? Squinting your eyes for heavy browsing and reading PDF files on the small screen?

Agreed... It might the best or worst gadget of the year...

This post has been edited by Edoras: Feb 1 2010, 07:13 AM

Look it is just plain simple actually
I'm a 1G Ipod Touch User and a 3GS user, what I can say is

When I first started using my IPOD touch, I did complaint as my device (I'm one of the earliest user) has nothing at all, no stores to buy apps, no itunes stores... basically it is a ipod with HUGE screen... yeah....

But look now with OS3.0 my IPOD touch can actually really do alot of stuff... and it is like a mini computer to me now... it replace my netbook for most of the time...

After much consideration and as my IPOD getting old and bat won't last anymore, I made a switch to 3GS and I can tell you I love the OS...

IPAD yes!!! to replace my aging ipod Touch...

You may complaint it is just a HUGE ipod touch... yes I agree... as I used most of my IPOD touch at home sitting at the sofa surfing the net and stuff... I would love this sitting at my home...

Turning on is easy and super fast!!!, this OS is fast and simple to use I bet even my mother who is having a hard time using win vista can use this!!!... simple easy to use and FAST... also no Lag!!!

It will replace my netbook as well as people complain on USB port and such... c'mon netbook I only use the USB port to connect to my External Drive and CD ROM... I don't need this as Ipad can sync with itunes simple as that!!!.

I would not buy Ipad now as I know apple will enhance the product in time to come as predicted iPhone 1G has nothing much to shout at but 3GS WOW!!!...

Ichat webcam is a good idea where ipad lacks... I believe in future upgrade it will bundle with it same with IPOD nano...

SIMPLE to me where IPAD sit on my life

HP notebook (company ones) is for WORK WORK WORK
iPhone 3GS is for mobility and calls
IPAD will be at my living room or bed room hahaha...
Touch... hmm... will become my clock and sit on my Dock Speaker haha
since battery is weak liow...

Why IPAD... those who uses IPOD touch or iphone will know as they will appreciate bigger screen at home when surfing the net... 3GS and Touch is powerful but on web page it requires a lot of Zoom in and out in order to read a page with comfort... I believe IPAD can sell because of the people who has IPOD touch at home and IPHONE user will learn to appreciate this device...

FLASH support.. yes kinda miss the Flash to play games on Facebook
hahaha what to do hopefully one day apple make friends with Macromedia

Give and take...as each product has its advantage and limitation and most of the Touch and iPhone user has learn and accepted the good and bad

In my opinion, regardless whether you think it is a good device or not, best to wait until it appears in Malaysia at our very own Machines or Mac City stores. Then play with it abit, see whether you have a reason to buy it or not. I think it is still to early to pass judgment until we actually have feel it in person.

Finally, even if I think it is a great tool, I will still not buy it. I don't want be sheep and get slaughtered by apple's 1st gen product. Wait at least for the 2nd gen for them to improve on things (heck I even would wait for the 3rd gen) before parting with my hard earned money.

man...somehow i feel quite down when i read this thread. hahaa. i'm not a rich person (most of us here are not) so i really think for VERY VERY LONG TIME (er...i bought my first mac after considering it for > 1 year). so i must admit i have not seen or use kindle before but i do know reading on LED can be quite straining for the eyes after a while.

donno why people wanna keep saying "have u use before? have u use before?" it's like if u havent, then shut up. :T maybe that's not flaming la...but by pinpointing at the YOU who has not used Kindle...i kinda 'feel it'.

and to that string fella --- what is that "china thingy" you talk about and communism lagi. :|

i think some of you mentioned that ipad is relatively new and most of us here are clueless about it besides what the press/web/bla bla have told us so far. so, just wait for the product to be released first lor.

last but not least, i love Apple products but i wont simply buy just because i'm a fan since their stuff r not cheap at all. i'll only buy something which i feel is useful for me (yes, i'm quite kedekut 1).

i got notebook+iphone 3g...so i need this thing for wat...

^ well said calvin_ng

how long can ur ipod battery last? im using 1st gen too, i think i bought it in sept/nov 2007...battery still ok for me yeah at first it was juz an ipod with a big screen n wifi...i bought it cuz i felt ipod touch got future when i see people can jailbreak and install apps. glad i was right

so yeah, i'd appreciate a giant ipod touch. i think the price is right (for a 1st gen iDevice. it'll go down later)...i dont think it's expensive for the specs. maybe i'll get a 2nd or 3rd gen someday

one question though. does anyone have any idea how the safari browser handles tabs? this is also one huge problem i have with the ipod touch. everytime wanna switch tabs, it has to load the page again

This post has been edited by dvlzplayground: Feb 1 2010, 10:14 AM

In fact, I suggest that at the very least Apple must improve to their iPad before anyone should even contemplating buying it is the inclusion of flash into their browser. No point buying a product that was meant to surf the net and could not 40% of the websites just because the iPad does not support flash.

Agree with what you say calvin. I will also get an Ipad for my internet surfing or playing games when my imac is being occupied.

However, it is unlikely now for flash support to be implemented.

Quote" As for Adobe, Jobs said they are lazy and Jobs blames Adobe for a buggy implementation of Flash on the Mac as one of the reasons they won't support it.
Apple does not support Flash because it is so buggy, he says. Whenever a Mac crashes more often than not it’s because of Flash. No one will be using Flash, he says. The world is moving to HTML5."

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/01/31/steve-...-macs-and-more/