You weren't there during the Macbook Air debacle? I was the lone soldier around here, and I believe I still is when it comes to my preference to the Air compared to the normal Macbook/Pros.

Like I said, if I don't care, I won't be bothered complaining. All the more reason to b**** when your own money is involved.

so that explains all the rant then. probably instead of dissing iPad u shud give people a reason to buy it. that might help your stock

here's what it does better than previous devices. as u said, it's better than an ipod touch in terms of performance n usage. it's also better than a notebook in terms of portability. does that answer your question?

or if u want to look from a negative point of view, it's worse than an ipod touch because it doesnt fit in a pocket, and it's also worse than a macbook in terms of performance. two perspectives, ur pick. if this is yours, dont buy.

something new? bigger display for apps is new. multitouch iwork is new. even ebook is new for those who doesnt own an ebook reader.

is it that u expected a 10" tablet, running touchscreen OSX, that's also faster than a macbook? so that it's moving up from both ipod touch and macbooks in every single aspect? nothing wrong about wishing about that, but i dont see how apple can achieve it. and certainly not for RM2000.

i guess i miss it.. though i got nothing on AIR because i dont really care about ultra portable.

hmm, i wish there's a place i cano moan about the xserve though

@dvlz

Im not down with deception for personal gains. It may the acceptable trait here, but I'd rather rise above that. Stephen Covey and all.

No, I do not expect it to be better than the Macbook/Pro, that's preposterous. A device similar to the Modbook would make me more than happy already. Drop down the specs to CULV processor, and Im cool with that. It's Apple's obsession with thinness that may be the catalyst for picking the final spec as it is now. Instead of a true tablet, you have a semblance of a tablet but the innards of a smartphone. Instead of a stripped down compatible Mac OS X, you have an OS made for a smartphone forcefed into a larger iPod Touch.

If you kept track of the tablet and its expectations, it has been a long road and almost impossible to see happening. Hence the term "unicorn" that we always catch rumor of, but never catches or seen. But the expectation of what this tablet is never wavered, it is supposed to be of a low-speced laptop with an OS emulating touch inetrface without much loss in practicality, function and usability of applications of its big brother(laptop) and its OS.

If you were never familiar with this, there's never any expectations to begin with, hence no monumental letdown that every other tech journalist on their blogosphere has been reporting. In fact that ignorance would bless you with easy acceptance if any kind of specs Apple put in the tablet, as long as it in tablet form.

Imagine what could gave been than what had been happening now.

@rushmode

I hear ya. The Xserve lineup has been treated like a stepchild for too long that I feel that it is better to let it die a dignified death, and start from scratch.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jan 31 2010, 10:01 PM

Bro string, it does better as a browser and video viewer compared to my iPod Touch now, because of the size. It is more portable than my Macbook, which makes it easier to bring around the house, be it in the room or on the couch or even outdoor where I do not need the full functions of my Macbook. It does function as a digital photo frame of which the iPod touch is too small. It's easier to bring around with my digital camera for me to upload my photos when the memory on the card runs low, especially on trips (with the adaptor of course).

AND to add to those, of which I foresee (may or may not be available now) it may as well function as a Point Of Sales (POS) device, or even a digital menu for restaurants.

This post has been edited by civic98: Jan 31 2010, 10:02 PM

yes i've kept track. n i admit that i expected the performance of somewhat a mac netbook. and also, yes it was a letdown for me, because i was thinking of buying a netbook, but i wanted something thinner. was hoping that the ipad is the solution, but then it's clearly not, so yeah. modbook would be a good choice, but i simply cant afford it.

i also said before that i hope for a ULV macbook air, a plastic one, juz so it would cost under 2k. i'd get one.

i dun see how complaining about the ipad rises u above anything. yes it's a letdown. yes we're disappointed. so let's just wait for further improvements. we're not in trouble

This post has been edited by dvlzplayground: Jan 31 2010, 10:14 PM

In essence, a lifestyle/entertainment device. More power to you I guess, seems you've found your missing link between your Touch and Macbook.

But there is a sizable number of people who are not sure as for what the iPad meant to them, or already have devices that does those things good enough for them not to consider the iPad as a suitable replacement for them. Would you agree if I say that they are the majority and geeks like me and you're a minority in this matter? Selling a product to a niche market is not for the bottom line.

It's good that you immediately see the need for this, but there are bigger number of people who don't see it fitting into their current daily routine.

Again, I don't think iPad is to replace the iPhone/iPod Touch or the Macbook.
I always dreamt for a gadget like an iPhone but with much bigger screen. Unfortunately, this iPad's screen is not the foldable-type display which can be folded to the size of an iPhone when not in use...

hehe now that is very cool ;p we can dream hehe

donno why the thread in AppleByte is always about ppl flaming each other :T
iPad is a good product. but how is it going to evolve, we can only know once it's out and also, its up to the developers who are busy pushing out the applications now.

kindle? yes, it's sleepy and yes, it's supposed to look that way because of how Amazon wans people to think that they are reading a book. it can't do anything more than ebooks. and who says the publishing industry is going to remain the same for years to come? i do foresee a change in trend - as in something which can enhance the readers' reading experience.

jz my 2 sen.

and seriously guys, there's no need to finger point at one another just because of 1 single product. everyone has their own opinions 1 la. no right or wrong. if like, go get the ipad lo. if don like, then don get lo. simple.

lol you guys are funny ,what is the point keep arguing since you're not interested in iPad? oh sorry..my bad...tats what people like to do. The matter is not what you want it to do for you but what you want to do with it =) . It cant replace a normal macbook since it's not running Mac OS , it can't be compare with iPhone too due to the functions. Maybe... a bigger version of iPod touch? But isn't it a good thing since a lot Malaysians complain that iphone,ipod touch keys are too small to press while sms-ing or email(Whoever thinks American's fingers are smaller than Asians) =)

See? You have expectations too, it just so happens that your expectations are met and mine is not. Imagine if Apple does come out with my expected device, then our position would switch places. The question is, is Apple catering to the niche, or the majority, with this device? Is the clamoring for the tablet louder for the device of my expectation, or of yours?

All this can be solved by Apple by providing a tiered product lineup. For those like you who can accept pared-down solutionslike this in lieu of a lowered pricetag, Apple offer this device. But for those with 20+ years expectations of what a tablet SHOULD be, they should have introduced a PRO version with full OS X compliance with touch support. Unfortunately, by tradition, Apple always uses the lowest common denominator to try out the market before catering for the whole spectrum full blown, so the realization of the expected tablet device will only happen much much later when the market is comfortable with the iPad and demand for me. The thing is, those like have waited this long, and Apple wants us to wait longer?

As for the "rise above anything" comment, you need to read that again. I don't operate by deceiving people, I tell them as it is. Even if it means crapping on my bottom line. This is based on this quoted comment of yours:-

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Added on January 31, 2010, 10:40 pmFirst of all, this is not flaming. I would already hurled insults and namecalling if I were to flame. This is called disagreeing, and that happens often in an environment called a forum. If everyone had to agree with each other with no voice of dissent or disagreement, that is called communism. Google up China for that. Ooops, I forgot, the Chinese don't allow Google there.

Secondly, have you read on the Kindle? Have you read for extended period time on the Kindle compared to reading for extended period of time on screen with refresh rates like a normal LED/LCD?

Answer those questions, and see which screen, Kindle's screen or the LCD/LED screen would make you more eyestrained and sleepy. No point getting your eyes messed up just because you want a color screen.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jan 31 2010, 10:46 PM

but still, we gonna get it

string, like I say, only Apple fan/user understand what Steve trying to bring with this "iPad".

Let say we end this meaningless discussion? Cause no matter how you/we trying to say, they will try to defend it. LOL

This post has been edited by Leo the Lion: Jan 31 2010, 10:51 PM

Like all of its new product introduction, Apple introduces a lower-end version first and see how the market reacts. From there on, it will be able to develop a better product roadmap.
Just see how iPod evolves into iPod Shuffle, Nano, Video, Touch etc
Also see how iphone evolves into 3G and 3GS.
How MB evolves into MBP, MBA, etc

If people don't like the 1st Gen iPad, they can wait for the 2nd or 3rd Gens or forever waiting...

I like your ambiguity.

You're saying I'm not a fan/user, or are you implying that sarcastically?

Ending the discussion? What is a forum without discussion? Shoulder-patting/circle-jerking to one another?

@Edoras

Me not liking it does not mean I'm not buying it. Same with buying something and critiquing it so that they can make a better product. A wise quote I got a few days ago from a tweet :- "Progress is not created by contented people" .Contented people dont feel like complaining. In my case, I need to complain so that Apple stop resting on their laurels and produce the REAL tablet.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jan 31 2010, 10:57 PM

um no, my expectations are not met. i wanted an OSX tablet, cheap one. ipad wasnt it, so we're pretty much on the same boat here. it's just that i accept that my dream tablet wasnt realized, and i also think that if it did today, i cant afford one. even a 'traditional' MBA is already 5k, turn that into a touchscreen tablet n the price will be very high.

so, yes, we should wait longer. because this is still 1st gen. that's life, the best things are always 'in the future'. that 20+ years of expectations GROWS. if this was released 20years earlier everyone would be stoked. today our 'dream apple tablet' is much2 more powerful than what we expected a few years ago. so, lets say 'touchscreen OSX tablet' will be launched in 2015, by that time we already 'expect' it to have 1 TB storage or something. it goes on and on

i believe it would suffice to just inform people ipad doesnt have this and this and this. i dont need to figure out if the ipad is a niche or majority product. macbooks are a majority products for us, but for PC users they're niche.

cause from the looks of it, yes you're not a fan of apple

if u wanna continue this discussion, well go ahead, I never force you to stop anyway.

he is. we all are, that's why we're in apple byte

Waiting and waiting for better technology is like a kind of contagious virus.