Can't help with it, this new iPad is indeed very disappointing, simply lousy.

yes i do. i own iphone 2g for 6 month then i sell it same price i bought it. i admit it the software (os) really good. but not all the time the can replicate the best for each product. im not applehatter but ipad just overprice piece of crap even islate(the one that ppl said apple tablet look like) look way better. if that one came out and have front camera for video call i might buy it.

come on guys ..its just a product. dont make our life so pathetic simply because of this paddy thingy hiih. Mac still rules whaaaat.. this paddy still in beta version hehehe.

mockups always look better laa

i remember got one mockup got dvd drive haha. half the tablet is for the dvd drive already... very not logic ;p

it's ok , Malaysian... it's still cool if you carry tat BIG ipod touch all around in KL (for you guys) , besides that... i just cant wait to crop my friend's picture change it to black and white and put in front of my chest =P

Can't believe the negavity of people here, we have people who would spend thousands on a device that only plays games, or on device that only plays videos / music, or even one that only plays slideshows of photos, or just to surf the web, but here we have something that does all of them, though not to perfection, and it's getting all sorts of bad comments. Anyone thinks positive anymore?

We are negative because Apple serve nothing special or incredible, instead give us something we already. That's why we are pissed. Its the same old same old.

You answered your own question. Why should I get something that does things half-baked? A laptop does portable computing perfectly, a digital photo frame does it job as good as it should. Apple's own iPod Rouch does its duties perfectly as well, and so on and so forth. What are the motivations of these people who already have these devices to dump them off in favour of the iPad, when you yourself say they have to give concessions on their experiences because they don't do it adequately? Why should I pare down my experience when what I can do now, does it for me and perfectly as well?

The reason why convergence devices are exciting and enticing to get is because it replaces 2 or more devices that you carry with you and does it with only one device, and most importantly, does it satisfactorily. You expect people to ditch their netbooks that does the mobile surfing device more superior than on the iPad? A digital photo frame? Pleeease! Who in the right mind buys the iPad for that! Playing music? Apple's own iPod Touch does it admirably already, why should those already owning an iPod Touch feel they should "upgrade" to the iPad? The same question that has been asked about this device comes to mind: why should I dump my current devices for this, when it couldn't even do these things properly? Missing Flash? Toned down computing experience? What?

To others, the same principles applies: what are you getting this for? Is it replacing any of your currently owned devices and if it does, does the iPad do it on par or better? If you're buying this to do something that you've never done before and wanted to try, like eBook reading, is RM1800(and upwards) justifyable enough to purchase it? I've answered these questions and the answer is that none of the iPad features adequately replace the devices that does the very same functions it does. And if it doesn't, what any other reason is there left to get than a "want" than a "need"? Getting it because of its form factor, IMO, is a want, not a need.

To come back to your own statement, Im not being negative, Im being objective about my needs. Not my wants. Svelte looks aside, nothing that the iPad can do, I can't do now already, and at a more than satisfactory level.

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Added on January 31, 2010, 7:32 pmAlso don't lump me into the group of people that you would assume being negative for no reason. I saw Apple's vision with the Apple TV, and I jumped headfirst onto purchasing the Macbook Air. Mostly because of needs than of wants. But the iPad is crossing that line where Apple is falsely creating a "need" when it is in fact, just a "want".

I don't deny it, I "want" the iPad. But pushing the blind "wants" and thinking objectively for my needs, with a clear head, I don't need one. I may buy one, but rest assured, it is not because I NEED it, it's because I WANT it. Those are two different things there.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jan 31 2010, 07:32 PM

Bro string, i do believe the product was not introduced for YOU. You can keep on going about what you have and what you need or what you want, and that's just you. Why should any company introduce a product that replaces it's own products already in the market?

No one is pointing a gun at anyone to buy this, no one is forcing anyone to need this, no one is asking anyone to want this. So what the heck? It's just another product.

As for your comment of people spending thousands of RM on devices that just play games(consoles) or devices that just display videos or music(HDTVs & AVRs) it is because:-

1. They are the only devices that do these functions. Is there any other devices that plays God Of War 3 or Wii Sports?

2. They EXCEL bar none, at the functions they are intended to do.

Now, why should I get something thar does things half-heartedly, when I get the real deal that does it PROPERLY?

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Added on January 31, 2010, 7:51 pmIf what you say is what it is, then isn't it something that you want rather than you need? If that is the case, then it all depends whether the potential customer has disposible income or not to get it. You don't need it, you get it because you like it and you want what you like.

If I need something, the yes, it's like someone is pointing a gun to my head to get it. Otherwise things will be left undone, financials jeopardized, and lives threatened. Feels that way with a phone, hence why I get an iPhone. The same with portable computer therefore the MBA. The ATV is a want, so does the Touch. Now where does the iPad lies?

Yup as you say this is my wants and needs, and they are exclusive to me alone. Others may have a different outlook on theirs. But just bear this in mind, is there anything the iPad can do that you cannot currently do now, or do using other alternative products? If the answer is NO, and you're still getting it, isn't that a "want"?

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jan 31 2010, 07:51 PM

is there a NEED to complain about iPad? no..but u WANT to

stringfellow we get your point here. u hate the ipad. nothing wrong about that

however, a notebook doesnt do mobile computing perfectly cuz it's still too big n heavy for some situations. but it's good cuz we can do a lot with it. ipod touch doesnt do it's job perfectly as well, i have to quit an app juz to go into another. but it's doing a good job of being 'mobile' since i can bring it everywhere i go.

while i agree with u that i dont need the ipad, since i have a notebook and an ipod, i do understand if some people want this. 2k isnt much for some people. if i were rich, i'd buy an iPad juz so i can surf the web on a decent-sized screen on my couch...no need to lug my notebook around and no need to zoom into everything like on my ipod.

in a classroom environment, bringing a notebook can be a hassle bcuz i need to carry files, books, etc. if 2k is nothing to me, i'd buy an ipad juz so i dont have to print my lecture notes. netbook isnt an answer for me cuz even though it's small, it's still thick.

there's nothing wrong for WANTING something u dont need. i dont need to eat at mcdonalds. i dont need to buy expensive jeans that does the same thing a rm15 pants at kamdar does. i just want mcd n levis because i can afford them. n if i could afford the ipad, even i dont need it, i'd buy it anyway

You only have experience using 2G iphone for 6 months? Which devices are you carrying now? Win CE or Nokia?
I presumed that your statement above meant that you have no other experience owning a Macbook or iPod Touch or even a 3GS.
How many times and how many people actually make video calls?

I owned an iPod Touch, iPhone 3GS and Macbook Pro.
An iPad with a Mac OS (or a stripped down version) will not fit the size and price of the new iPads. Furthermore, it will raise further and higher expectations on the hardware specs. A strip down version specs will not satisfy the hunger of Mac users.

Thus, I don't mind the iPhone OS 3.2 version of iPad. Fast to boot and launch applications.

I have a 3GS so, I can make calls easily.
I have a Macbook Pro, so I can easily make video calls (which I rarely do).
All the powerful apps, I can run using my MBP.
Do I carry all devices? The answer is Yes... and I don't mind carrying the iPad to replace my paper Notebook/Diary in my bag which also carries my MBP.
So..where iPad fits me? Its good for reading, browsing, replying emails, taking notes - "replacing" my Notebook/Diary which I carry around, "replacing" the tons paper books .. be more subtle (not obvious) browsing Internet or replying emails in meeting rooms.

The problem is most people think iPad can replace their MB or iPod Touch or iPhone. Its not meant to be design that way.

Maybe some people already have their needs/wants with their current devices. Fair enough - this iPad might not be suitable for that kind of person.

Otherwise, I can see a lot of people whining because they are either Windows users or they don't have enough money to buy one.
What if they make it less than RM 1000, would you buy?

Hence my point. You think that after all supposed vocal dislikes(hate is too extreme) of the iPad, you think Im not getting one? The iPad is a PERFECT candidate for my wireless VOD system I have built at home, I can simply broadcast the pool of movies, songs and photos PROPERLY now with this. But i wanted it, I don't need it because my delivery system is via the ATV to a big screen TV. I could use it for my pangsai-time in the toilet to watch short movies but is that even necessary?

Nope, didn't say that it is wrong to want something. But drawing from my own experience of buying gadgets, most of the gadgets that I wanted now either lay dusty on the shelf or packed away. What good does it do if it ended ip like that?

Then there's the duplicating/overlapping of devices. We all carry phones with us, it's that common. And seeing this is an Apple forum, a lot of us carry either iPhones or iPod Touches. For another device to be carried around portably, wouldn't it better if it does things that the current devices we carry around with us cannot do, and do it routinely? Or if it meant to replace those devices, wouldn't it be more prudent to have it do equally or better than the other device before it? Otherwise you'd be doubling or tripling up on devices that can do just one same function. I am guilty of that at one time, and only had it being pointed out to me the redundancies of my way by a good friend who was scratching his head asking why I carry three devices that can do one simple function : surfing. Needless to say, I was embarrassing myself than impressing anyone.

If I didn't really care, I would have just shut up and watch this circus go on. My beef with the introduction of the iPad is how unnecessary this device is to the already available lineup Apple have.

Sorry , can i ask how IPAD / IPOD TOUCH typing chinese or japanese in internet browser ? does it have own system or ????

well said Edoras, well said

if someone already has similar device, e.g. viliv, then they probably wont need ipad anymore...so what? it's not like everyone has a viliv

i dont videocall as well...but i know some ppl who do. and look silly doing it hehehe. better dont do it in public i guess

so can we stop complaining too much about ipad? i admit that i did, but im more like "oh well, dun wan to buy lah" rather than "SCREW YOU APPLE!"

dont pretend like u pre-order, paid for it, and have to accept a 'crappy' iPad. u didnt, n life goes on. juz dont buy, easy. i dun like the iphone 3gs, so i just dont buy lah..no need to complain about it everyday right?

this pad really make chaos in mac community worldwide phew.

even if the ipad is a total failure, it wont affect u right? u got stock in apple is it?

yes, on the looks of it, it's an unnecessary device or us who already own a macbook n iphone or ipod touch. but not everyone does. maybe someone who insists on a desktop would appreciate this. maybe someone who's a blackberry fanatic, but wants to join in the App Store craze, but feels like ipod touch screen is way to small for surfing.

Hey guys...this thread should be some discussion on iPad features. It seems the more i read the more out of the product line...

Well, im not going to join the discussion about "good"/ "bad" about iPad. If Apple realize 1st Gen doesn't do good they will implement 2nd Gen n so on~

No harm of waiting after the official release in M'sia and get your hands on it before making conclusion that this "iPad" is it worth of getting.

To answer you as how rudely you've put that question out, why yes! I do have AAPL stock. It went downhill since last announcement, good time to buy them too. Don't simply assume what you don't know, "buddy". Stick at you're partially good at. Your incessant plug for your blog perhaps?

To the rest, put it this way. Most people get things because of two reasons: either it does something better than its predessor, or it does something totally new and you wanna try it. I'd totally accept if you are getting the iPad because you're moving up from the iPod Touch. Not because you're replacing a netbook because the cons outweigh the pros. I'd totally agree if you're getting it because of its document-reading aspect, because the size is now finally comfortable enough to read compared to the iPod Touch. Which also makes that a moving up from an inferior product reasoning appropriate.

Nobody answered me when I asked that question: what does the iPad does that is either better than other previous devices, or totally new and doable exclusively on the iPad to warrant getting one?

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jan 31 2010, 09:13 PM

haven't seen so many bashing when apple launch a new product for so long. apple tv kinda disappointment but it was US only so not really affect the world.

more than a year long rumor build up, fantastic mockup, etc etc then after the release it so far from it was rumored and imagine making it a big disappointment even the fanboys has a hard time defending it.