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post Feb 1 2010, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(jphlau @ Feb 1 2010, 10:28 AM)
Agree with what you say calvin. I will also get an Ipad for my internet surfing or playing games when my imac is being occupied.

However, it is unlikely now for flash support to be implemented.

Quote" As for Adobe, Jobs said they are lazy and Jobs blames Adobe for a buggy implementation of Flash on the Mac as one of the reasons they won't support it.
Apple does not support Flash because it is so buggy, he says. Whenever a Mac crashes more often than not it’s because of Flash. No one will be using Flash, he says. The world is moving to HTML5."

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/01/31/steve-...-macs-and-more/
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Well folks, there you have it. If Apple does not make their customer's live's easier by surfing the web, that is a big minus for me. So for me, I probably keep my hard earned money for the time being until they do or HTML 5 actually takes off. They will eventually, trust me. Therefore, avoid the 1st gen and wait for the 2nd if not 3rd gen. I don't think they intend to give up the iPad, like apple TV or even Macbook Air.
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QUOTE(cRazYee @ Jan 31 2010, 10:43 AM)
well compare to ARM Cortax A9
atom sucks

see this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4W6lVQl3QA...player_embedded


Added on January 31, 2010, 10:51 am

still early judge it's fail or not
but i see great potential in future

the A4 chip is based on ARM Cortex A9, it's powerful for sure
up to date, iphone OS can runs OpenGL
so, it's just problem of time for iphone OS development
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afaik it doesnt multitask and plays 640x480 mp4 just to name a few. please define powerful.

QUOTE(nawzi @ Jan 31 2010, 12:46 PM)
QUOTE(fumjusta @ Jan 31 2010, 02:15 PM)
Guys, I just wanna share this with you. Before the launch of the iPad, I read 2 articles that thoroughly explain why Apple is going to adopt (which they did) iPhone OS, instead of Mac OSX.

Computers Should Be More Like Toasters

The Apple Tablet Interface Must Be Like This

and from the iPad video at, Jonathan Ive, Apple design guru, said

"In many ways this defines our vision, our sense of what's next."

They really think that this is the way forward. Let's see the adoption rate for the first year shall we.
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this is entirely subjective. there are tonnes of ppl who likes windows style interface as well, esp the new Win7. design wise, i do agree with him, functionality, no

QUOTE(zemmien @ Jan 31 2010, 05:51 PM)
Mac still rules whaaaat..
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rules like how? mobile market ruled by nokia. pc market ruled by HP. os market pwned by msoft.

QUOTE(civic98 @ Jan 31 2010, 07:05 PM)
Can't believe the negavity of people here, we have people who would spend thousands on a device that only plays games, or on device that only plays videos / music, or even one that only plays slideshows of photos, or just to surf the web, but here we have something that does all of them, though not to perfection, and it's getting all sorts of bad comments. Anyone thinks positive anymore?
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notice that those device you mentioned have a clearly defined purpose while this is mainly redundant to what we already have.

QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Jan 31 2010, 10:40 PM)
but still, we gonna get it smile.gif
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ipad is certainly for u. fanboi.


QUOTE(jphlau @ Feb 1 2010, 10:28 AM)
Agree with what you say calvin. I will also get an Ipad for my internet surfing or playing games when my imac is being occupied.

However, it is unlikely now for flash support to be implemented.

Quote" As for Adobe, Jobs said they are lazy and Jobs blames Adobe for a buggy implementation of Flash on the Mac as one of the reasons they won't support it.
Apple does not support Flash because it is so buggy, he says. Whenever a Mac crashes more often than not it’s because of Flash. No one will be using Flash, he says. The world is moving to HTML5."

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/01/31/steve-...-macs-and-more/
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HTML5 still have some distance to go. also you wouldnt know what adobe will bring in next that will make ppl in apple emo.
anyway, idk about you guys but all my years of using a pc, i dont recall myself crashing because of flash.
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QUOTE(jiidaineko @ Feb 1 2010, 10:48 AM)
notice that those device you mentioned have a clearly defined purpose while this is mainly redundant to what we already have.

HTML5 still have some distance to go. also you wouldnt know what adobe will bring in next that will make ppl in apple emo.
anyway, idk about you guys but all my years of using a pc, i dont recall myself crashing because of flash.
What you have does not define what others has. So please don't judge others based on your own opinions. There are difference here, and everyone is free to voice theirs, but it's not for you to judge.

And I believe he was talking about crashin in Mac caused by flash, nothing to do with your pc, or you crashing. Quote: "Whenever a Mac crashes more often than not it's because of Flash". And to add for that matter, in my years of using a PC, it crashes even for no apparent reason. Well, that's PC.

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I'm also still waiting for a work-capable iPad (Pro)... something that can run
- Adobe Suite
- Comes with a cutting edge Apple-made Stylus for pin-point accuracy
- Wireless connectivity with External Drives
- Wireless connectivity with a Full HD LCD TV

Guess, it would more or less be a smaller iMac with a touch screen. hehe
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post Feb 1 2010, 11:13 AM

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Hmm, since I bought a PC for 2 years now, it doesn't crash too often when playing flash game. More like 2 times a year? Quite less you know. The latest flash player 10 does thing alot better then it's predecessor, I don't get any crash at all now!

Is it Mac are not flash friendly? Maybe yeah.

This post has been edited by Leo the Lion: Feb 1 2010, 11:16 AM
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post Feb 1 2010, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Feb 1 2010, 11:13 AM)
Hmm, since I bought my PC for 2 years, it doesn't crash too often. More like 2 times? Quite less you know. The latest flash player 10 does thing alot better then it's predecessor, I don't get any crash at all now!

Is it Mac are not flash friendly? Maybe yeah.
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Systems are not built to accomodate flash or Adobe. It's Adobe's job to implement a version that will run smoothly on the various systems.
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post Feb 1 2010, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(civic98 @ Feb 1 2010, 11:04 AM)
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What you have does not define what others has. So please don't judge others based on your own opinions. There are difference here, and everyone is free to voice theirs, but it's not for you to judge.

And I believe he was talking about crashin in Mac caused by flash, nothing to do with your pc, or you crashing. Quote: "Whenever a Mac crashes more often than not it's because of Flash". And to add for that matter, in my years of using a PC, it crashes even for no apparent reason. Well, that's PC.
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did i said everyone? im only telling my experience with flash. so do u guys get a lot of it? unsure.gif


QUOTE(civic98 @ Feb 1 2010, 11:17 AM)
Systems are not built to accomodate flash or Adobe. It's Adobe's job to implement a version that will run smoothly on the various systems.
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adobe made a wise choice then with 90%+ of the world using windows~ or should they mess something up in the 90% to accommodate the remaining %?
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flash doesnt crash a lot of PCs. it's just that flash version of Mac and also Linux is far worse. that's the problem. we're talking about macs here, so no need to mix PCs in since flash works well on them smile.gif


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QUOTE(jiidaineko @ Feb 1 2010, 11:26 AM)
adobe made a wise choice then with 90%+ of the world using windows~ or should they mess something up in the 90% to accommodate the remaining %?
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Lol. I hope Adobe is not listening here, you're practically saying Adobe is not going to be good at other things, other than Windows. 90% vs remaining are market share figures, it does not reflect how good are they in their job, being better in the Windows market doesn't mean they can't be good at others, and vice versa. It's a matter of whether they want to or not.

If you ask me is Adobe stupid enough to ignore the growing market of OSX?

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QUOTE(civic98 @ Feb 1 2010, 11:34 AM)
Lol. I hope Adobe is not listening here, you're practically saying Adobe is not going to be good at other things, other than Windows. 90% vs remaining are market share figures, it does not reflect how good are they in their job, being better in the Windows market doesn't mean they can't be good at others, and vice versa. It's a matter of whether they want to or not.

If you ask me is Adobe stupid enough to ignore the growing market of OSX?
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did i say they arent good? like what u've said, if they can make it work well for all OS, why not? there must be some sort of technical/cost implication that u and i dont know. unless they hate apple for some unknown reason so they are doing it for the lulz.
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So how I feel a lot of normal consumers are going to get it just because of the hype/trend without knowing a thing about what it does...

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/stephen...rt-has-an-ipad/
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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Feb 1 2010, 10:12 AM)
^ well said calvin_ng smile.gif

how long can ur ipod battery last? im using 1st gen too, i think i bought it in sept/nov 2007...battery still ok for me smile.gif yeah at first it was juz an ipod with a big screen n wifi...i bought it cuz i felt ipod touch got future when i see people can jailbreak and install apps. glad i was right smile.gif

so yeah, i'd appreciate a giant ipod touch. i think the price is right (for a 1st gen iDevice. it'll go down later)...i dont think it's expensive for the specs. maybe i'll get a 2nd or 3rd gen someday

one question though. does anyone have any idea how the safari browser handles tabs? this is also one huge problem i have with the ipod touch. everytime wanna switch tabs, it has to load the page again sad.gif
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hmm... my battery can last bout 3-4 Hours or so... made a mistake lastime leaving the ipod in my car exposed to heat above 40 degrees
so the battery was heat damaged....

I bought since it launched in Malaysia, way before jailbreak was event exist... after I purchase damn regret hahaha but luckily OS3 came in and change the whole thing... Jailbreak too smile.gif smile.gif

well... let's just see how much Ipad is selling smile.gif would not mind getting my hands on one smile.gif

Who wanna buy my Asus Net Book!!! I'll trade 1 for Ipad smile.gif smile.gif
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QUOTE(xenohawk @ Feb 1 2010, 11:58 AM)
So how I feel a lot of normal consumers are going to get it just because of the hype/trend without knowing a thing about what it does...

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/stephen...rt-has-an-ipad/
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A lot of normal consumers are only waiting second hand iPad tongue.gif
And a lot of Apple fanboys are wait n see until iPad make some magnificent improvement both hardware & software.

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If the N900 can run Mac OSX, why can't the iPad?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/mac-os-...c-barely-usable
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QUOTE(Voxe @ Feb 1 2010, 02:46 PM)
If the N900 can run Mac OSX, why can't the iPad?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/mac-os-...c-barely-usable
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Before someone else comes back to you, I'll say it right upfront. Keyword:barely usable. 90 minutes boot-up, snailpaced cursors. Apple dont roll that way.
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MacOSX is a full fledge 100% desktop OS. Porting to N900 is amazing (I just WOW see how N900 do things), and that's the best part of it. Even if it took 90 minutes to boot-up, unlike iPhone OS, Maemo is open source and it's free to hack (hack user-friendliness) when compare to other iPhone OS devices including the iPad.

Many people are against iPad due to restrictness, and some hope someone able to hack the iPad and insert the full fledge MacOSX Snow Leapord desktop versions. The wish are near to impossible. Why? Apple is too strict with their consumer/products. iPad should be open abit, multitask (come on Steve) and people would love the devices (including myself). I now don't mind having iPhone OS, but Apple being too strict, no Multitask, no widescreen display, no flash? Come on la! If they want majority PC user to use their products, come up a thing that PC users want! We're tech geek gadget good for nothing user! If we want multitask, then bring it on! Consumer demand high tech things!

I don't mind the design, but majority does not met my expectation. If I buy this tablet, it will replace my everyday newspaper (which I buy from the nearest 7-11) and I will go green with the environment.

p/s: my last post for this topic. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(Voxe @ Feb 1 2010, 02:46 PM)
If the N900 can run Mac OSX, why can't the iPad?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/mac-os-...c-barely-usable
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Even if you're to ignore the OS performance here, you'll still need to address the human interface aspect of things. how are you going to handle your usual input? Its like I had mentioned before, trying to cram an OS where the input method is via keyboard/mouse into a device where the input method is primarily is via a touch screen, you're in for a world of pain, unless its solely for the purpose of a specialized application for a specialized purpose.
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Feb 1 2010, 03:09 PM)
MacOSX is a full fledge 100% desktop OS. Porting to N900 is amazing (I just WOW see how N900 do things), and that's the best part of it. Even if it took 90 minutes to boot-up, unlike iPhone OS, Maemo is open source and it's free to hack (hack user-friendliness) when compare to other iPhone OS devices including the iPad.

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Why the need to quote my post then? Dude, I'm not ignorant or stupid when it comes to other alternative OSes. I've used and still have in my possession, the Nokia N770 on Maemo turned to an LCARS PAD interface long before Nokia deemed it fashionable enough to bring it to the masses on the N900. I repeat: I am not ignorant, or stupid. rolleyes.gif

Where do people draw the line then? I can hackintosh my way into the early EEEPC but what's the point if it's crawling to even begin with? Just to prove a point? rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Feb 1 2010, 02:49 PM)
Before someone else comes back to you, I'll say it right upfront. Keyword:barely usable. 90 minutes boot-up, snailpaced cursors. Apple dont roll that way.
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Of course, its just a proof of concept that it is possible to run Mac OSX with ARM architecture. I'm sure if Apple does it, it would be much better.
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QUOTE(rstusa @ Jan 31 2010, 02:54 PM)
8 reasons you won't choose iPad:

Big, Ugly Bezel
Have you seen the bezel on this thing?! It's huge! I know you don't want to accidentally input a command when your thumb is holding it, but come on.

No Multitasking
This is a backbreaker. If this is supposed to be a replacement for netbooks, how can it possibly not have multitasking? Are you saying I can't listen to Pandora while writing a document? I can't have my Twitter app open at the same time as my browser? I can't have AIM open at the same time as my email? Are you kidding me? This alone guarantees that I will not buy this product.

No Cameras
No front facing camera is one thing. But no back facing camera either? Why the hell not? I can't imagine what the downside was for including at least one camera. Could this thing not handle video iChat?

Touch Keyboard
So much for Apple revolutionizing tablet inputs; this is the same big, ugly touchscreen keyboard we've seen on other tablets, and unless you're lying on the couch with your knees propping it up, it'll be awkward to use.

No HDMI Out
Want to watch those nice HD videos you downloaded from iTunes on your TV? Too damned bad! If you were truly loyal, you'd just buy an AppleTV already.

The Name iPad
Get ready for Maxi pad jokes, and lots of 'em!

No Flash
No Flash is annoying but not a dealbreaker on the iPhone and iPod Touch. On something that's supposed to be closer to a netbook or laptop? It will leave huge, gaping holes in websites. I hope you don't care about streaming video! God knows not many casual internet users do. Oh wait, nevermind, they all do.

Adapters, Adapters, Adapters
So much for those smooth lines. If you want to plug anything into this, such as a digital camera, you need all sorts of ugly adapters. You need an adapter for USB for god's sake.

Update: Why stop at 8? Here are more things we are discovering that suck about the iPad.

It's Not Widescreen
Widescreen movies look lousy on this thing thanks to its 4:3 screen, according to Blam, who checked out some of Star Trek on one. It's like owning a 4:3 TV all over again!

Doesn't Support T-Mobile 3G
Sure, it's "unlocked." But it won't work on T-Mobile, and it uses microSIMs that literally no one else uses.

A Closed App Ecosystem
The iPad only runs apps from the App Store. The same App Store that is notorious for banning apps for no real reason, such as Google Voice. Sure, netbooks might not have touchscreens, but you can install whatever software you'd like on them. Want to run a different browser on your iPad? Too bad!
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