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post Jan 5 2010, 06:07 PM

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so far no. but i'll be dreaming of it the day it launches hehe
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post Jan 6 2010, 01:34 AM

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still cant imagine myself using a tablet. dropped my ipod touch a few times already ;S
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post Jan 6 2010, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(shdwkillr @ Jan 6 2010, 02:43 PM)
It's obviously fake with that "clouded" thing.. Apple is not going to make that.. in fact there are still lots of things which are fake in terms of the hardware published (those hardware familiar men can tell you)..
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ok i tell here hehe

1. if this thing is gonna use SODIMM rams, it'll be thick. even the macbook air does not use SODIMM. for portable 'tablet' thingy, it will have to use onboard RAMs like phones do
2. apple bought tons of toshiba's new 64GB NAND flash memory (for ipods n iphone), they can just put two of these in a tablet to get 128GB, so they wont use a mechanical 4200rpm HDD
3. why would the iSlate need an external optical drive that's different from the MBA, if at all?
4. built-in projector is a joke
5. ETHERNET?! even MBA doesnt have it...it's too fat lah
6. airport yes. airport EXTREME? no
7. "clouded leopard"? makes me think of a leopard with a sad face
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post Jan 7 2010, 12:49 PM

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iPhone 4.0 maybe June/July like that.

i really hope it's not going to be named iSlate though. or iTablet. definitely not iPad hehe


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post Jan 12 2010, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(Kernkraft400 @ Jan 12 2010, 04:12 PM)
At least it serves more like a Mac, and slightly more portable than normal laptops including MacBooks. You can't use iWork on the iPhone to do your work, now can you ? tongue.gif
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if i want a slightly more portable than normal laptops i'd go for macbook air oh hahaha

am i the only one who wishes for a cheap-version MBA? make a polycarbonate version, slap an Atom in it, put a pair of toshiba's new 64gb NAND chips. all that around rm2k? i think quite nice already ;p
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post Jan 13 2010, 12:06 PM

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not only the iphone 2g... im using the 1st gen ipod touch now. few months ago i scratched the screen protector (luckily) and i had a very hard time so search for a new one in the market. all for iphone or ipod touch 2g (they say it wont fit on mine). i know this is probably not apple's fault, but resellers should still keep accessories for older models. same goes to casings. i cant find any shop who still sell ipod touch 1st gen casing around~

at least iphone 3g and 3gs have the same shape, so all casings can still be used.
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post Jan 13 2010, 12:19 PM

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isn't it ALWAYS subject to availability? tongue.gif

i meant reseller + supplier + all the way up. maybe a few choices would do since not many people would buy it.
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post Jan 13 2010, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(xaw5126 @ Jan 13 2010, 12:48 PM)
maybe you open your own shop?

its hard enough to keep track of the hundreds of casings for current iPod / iPhone. you want accessories for a product that was never sold in Malaysia ... that's not gonna happen.

I do sympathise with those who have iPod touch 1st gen, and the screen covers n casings are almost totally sold out. OTOH, production is limited... since the accessory makers are also worried that Apple will come out with a new model, they don't keep producing accessories after the product has been discontinued.

we have some iPod touch G1 & iPod nano G3 & G4 accessories on clearance in machines 1 Utama, for under RM100 ... do drop by and take a look...
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i know its hard (im not talking abt iphone 1st gen anyway..i understand they're not sold here), but if one shop still got 2/3 choices okay already ;p

good to know machines 1utama still have. next time go kl i'll drop by


Added on January 13, 2010, 1:46 pmhttp://gizmodo.com/5446652/how-will-we-typ...kyline=true&s=x

voting for (very accurate) stylus input for quick scribbles and diagrams smile.gif then being able to save in pdf. wont need to print out lecture notes anymore hehe

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post Jan 14 2010, 02:09 AM

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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jan 13 2010, 10:23 PM)
support has ceased? , what are you talking about here, anyone with a first gen iphone with a valid ATT or o2 contract will still receive support, we are not talking about grey items here. Third party cases are not under apple's control, thats why they are called *Third party* aka alternative solution, please be realistic, no1 would keep making cases and screen protector for a product that is discontinued, how to make money like that, if there were only 20million iphone 2g ever made, do you make 100 million cases for that one year period and keep on making 5-10 million products annually and make losses? and heck humans are never contented they will never stick to one gadget for long maybe you do but people will always get something new, maybe not today but someday.
What support are you talking about here? service support? apple still offers this to first gen iphone owners and also the 3G. Everything about the iphone is non removable why are you comparing it with 3310? which has a totally removable parts? So do you want all the resellers to keep iphone service parts?
What are you blabbering about? form versus function? cmon no phone to date can match the iphone OS, its never about the hardware its all about the software, the app store and the support an the ease of use, hell if its about flash or camera i'd get a cheaper phone like SE that has 7MPX but would i get the same experience? no. To date all the three iphones has received similar software updates, can nokia or SE make sure all their line up of smartphone of yesteryears be able to install the latest symbian? no cause its a closed environment.
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nimrod i think u're taking our arguments a little bit too extreme. we dont demand 100 million cases and 5-10 million cases annually. as i said, a small fraction would do, so early adopters still have some choice. obviously no one is going to upgrade just so they have more choices on accessories. and of course manufacturers would concentrate more on current products. all im saying is i dont think it would hurt much for a few choices. if my current ipod touch casing breaks, i won't have anything to replace it

obviously kernkraft wasnt talking about removable covers and batteries or service parts. dont stretch it

and the last part is pure fanboy. if its never about the hardware, all of us are using Apple II right now. and the iphone, admittedly with excellent software, is only possible with its hardware: the capacitive multitouch screen. the iphone might be the best ever phone today, but it's not like it doesnt have any cons at all. to dismiss that is just fanboyism.

QUOTE(wei @ Jan 13 2010, 10:53 PM)
Come on.... We have a full section dedicated to iPhone "blabering" already.
A tablet is a computer, not a phone. Unless Apple planning to change that "again". That is until it's announced.

So let's not turn this thread into junk post. Or another fighting post.

Back to topic... I'm waiting for such product since the day I own my very first PowerBook. So yea, I would be the guy that might pre-order it, LOL. Call me crazy or what.

But looking at the reading I gather so far, Apple might going to launch it with some smashing services like AppStore to pull in more $ than selling hardware alone.

Imagine if Adobe could push out Photoshop Lite for free test. And the Photoshop paid version that will allow you to add in plug-in or feature along the way just like some games in Appstore... Well that might solve alot issue with conventional way of selling desktop app. We might even able to customize a single app to cater to our personal needs. Let say I won't need extra filters or effects, I will just keep the basic app.
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it certainly should not be a phone. i dont get why people want iSight on it. iSight on iPhone would be nice, but on a tablet aiyah, gonna be awkward holding it?

something like microsoft's Courier concept would be great. more of a computerized scrapbook rather than a full-fledged computer smile.gif being able to be a secondary display for Macs would be a seller!
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post Jan 16 2010, 12:29 AM

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if they could sandbox iphone apps, yes that would be killer smile.gif i really want that for my mac hehe. so much more games to choose from (n cheap!)

stylus input please stylus input please
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post Jan 16 2010, 12:23 PM

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my idea of a tablet is that we can scribble on it. i imagine typing on a 7" (or bigger) device is quite hard. its too big to type like with an iphone (we probably need one hand to hold the tablet, so only one hand to type with), and if we put it down on a flat surface to type, it wont be a good angle. so yeah, stylussss hehehe ;p

of course, included kickstand and able to support normal external keyboards is welcomed biggrin.gif
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post Jan 28 2010, 05:22 AM

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no USB n webcam nevermind..but no multitask is a huge disappointment sad.gif

from the demo, the A4 chip looks pretty good. i wonder why they named it A4 though... what happened to A1 A2 A3...

was secretly hoping they name their proc G6 or something tongue.gif continue from powerpc heheh

but still, 'iPad'?? i thought iSlate was a horrible name, but i actually preferred that

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post Jan 28 2010, 02:12 PM

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and next year they will launch.... Apple iPad Wing icon_idea.gif

if this A4 chip is going to be in the iPhone, then it should be a very small chip compared to the intels. small proc in a 10-inch device shouldnt be a heat problem.

as for storage, well we all know u can slam 64gb in an ipod touch, so it doesnt take up much space in the hardware too

waiting for a teardown, but i suspect half of the ipad is battery tongue.gif now this might be a heat problem

the black bar on the top for the 3G models is damn ugly! does it need to be so huge? i thought the 'stick the antenna behind plastic apple logo' like the iMacs was a good idea. im hoping to get the iphone 4g this year, but i really hope it wont come up with that black bar.
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post Jan 28 2010, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(alpha0201 @ Jan 28 2010, 02:59 PM)
If they include them as standard, maybe.
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hahah good point

i wonder if they will sell iWork 2010 apps separately. i juz want keynote ;p
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post Jan 28 2010, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(Mike3300 @ Jan 28 2010, 05:43 PM)
One thing I'm curious, why they offer iPhone OS instead of a stripped down Leopard 10.5.
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QUOTE(Mike3300 @ Jan 28 2010, 05:47 PM)
I believe with Apple it is possible, they just don't want to waste too much resource on what they're able to do now. They're keeping it for the future product release.

Trust me, you'll see a tablet running Mac OS X soon.
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i highly doubt this. Leopard runs at PPC n Intel only. even our SL is Intel only. from the hackintosh department u can see how SL cant even run well on AMD CPUs...which are not much different from Intel's architecture

so how is SL going to run on an entirely different architecture like the A4? no way im using OSX on a 1Ghz machine. we know iPhone uses an ARM chip, so since iPad runs the the same OS and games, i think its safe to say the A4 is an ARM-spec chip as well

maybe someday someone will hack OSX on ipad or something, but it would be really slow.

i share ur concern though...mac OSX on ipad would be much cooler. but since Jobs publicly dismissed intel's atom, n no rumours about apple/AMD deal..very unlikely already. i dont believe apple has the guts to create a processor better than the Atom, since PA Semi doesnt

all in all, it kicks Vaio P's ass though hahaha

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QUOTE(munkyduke @ Jan 28 2010, 09:41 PM)
to find an Apple owner in Malaysia is hard, to find an Apple owner who is owning more than one Apple device is even harder. Go figure on how this thing can sell in Malaysia. Among all their products, only MacBook White or MacBook Pro 13 are the most practical
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15" MBP and iMac not practical?

the main thing that's preventing malaysians (including yours truly) from buying iphones is the price. see how touchscreen LGs and samsungs are selling. if iphone can drop down to those prices, sure lots of people will buy

anyone wanna email Jobs asking why no multitask?

"You wanted multitasking? Then buy TWO iPads. Not that big of a deal.

Jobs

Sent from my iPhone"

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post Jan 29 2010, 04:34 AM

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QUOTE(FlakCannon @ Jan 29 2010, 12:34 AM)
quite disappointed by the pad. i thought snow leopard was design to optimize touchscreen interaction.

but now that thing just run something similar to iphone os. sad.

btw will there be apps similar to photoshop or illustrator coming out for the ipad?
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where u heard snow leopard optimize for touchscreen? langsung tak ada wey tongue.gif

QUOTE(Nic87_Lowyat @ Jan 29 2010, 03:46 AM)
do u guy think worth to buy ?? but no uSB port how to charge iphone or ipod ?? without usb port how i can transfer song or picture to ipad ??
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it's not a computer that's for sure. u dont charge other stuff from it tongue.gif that thing is the one needs to be charged
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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Jan 29 2010, 08:50 AM)
Apple always do something for a reason. They just don't simply 'forget' to put in camera, usb and multi tasking. Come to think of it, you really don't need those stuff when you carry a iPad. The only things that matters are connectivity, the 3G. I think the iPad is targeted at existing iphone & mac users, another piece to complete the collections smile.gif  .  and for only US$629 for the basic set with 3G, i think it's a good price. An alternative to carry to Starbucks to kill time
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of course they dont 'forget', obviously got technical limitations, cut costs, or cuz they dont think it fits. no front camera (both front n back) cuz, well, i wont want it either tongue.gif. no USB since this thing doesnt have any device managing capabilities. i mean, if got usb port, ppl will ask why cannot use thumbdrives, why cannot sync ipod, why cannot print document etc. like most have said, this is a giant ipod touch. ipods never had usb ports smile.gif

now multitasking is a different story. it's the number one feature i really2 want on my ipod. the most logical reason we could guess now is the processor isnt fast enough to multitask. but then my sony ericsson dumphone still can multitask a bit, maybe juz 2/3 apps running together, but that's much better than no multitasking at all. now this ipad have 1 ghz... nexus one, pre, some winmo phones can multitask. they will make the phone lag, but i think its better than none :S

QUOTE(Edoras @ Jan 29 2010, 09:06 AM)
I don't understand why people claimed you cannot make call with an iPad?
Then... what's the use of the 3G model version? I am sure we can make calls (other than internet connectivity)...
It has a microphone and speaker... and what we need is only the application...
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juz because something got 3g antenna doesnt mean it can make calls. it's like if u have astro dish but no decoder. plus i dunno who want to make calls with this thing tongue.gif

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post Jan 29 2010, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Jan 29 2010, 10:35 AM)
for people that live sleep fap with Apple logo, yes the price is just right
for realism people, they rather spend the money on highend netbooks or the upcoming HP Slate.
in this sense, iPad is like SmartforTwo, its expensive yet not delivering practical purposes. This is the impression of Apple people have so far.
1st u need to jailbreak it
2nd u need to find an authorized app which let you make calls on it

1st is likely to happen sometime later, 2nd is impossible
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got high-end netbook? i thought all lebih kurang.. HP slate hmm, the thing about that is windows7 doesnt seem to benefit a lot with touch... OSX also actually
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post Jan 29 2010, 12:23 PM

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n more revenue they get = possibly cheaper iPad 2nd gen. e.g. i bought my ipod touch for rm1339 and it was only 8gb. now 3rd gen 8gb is much better, at almost half the price

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