b4 Byond installed. S-video to TV plasma (Hall ground floor) , RF to Hall ( 1st floor) + Room (2nd floor) , AV to DVD Recorder.
Now, HDMI to Plasma TV , AV --> splitter (1 to 2 ) --> Plasma TV (for SD programme) + DVD recorder, Byond Component works nothing..

Sorry to disappoint you but the increase in signal is not a true increase, all that has happened is that the amplitude of the signal has increased.

For satellite signals the most important measurement is "Carrier to Noise Ratio", this is the magnitude of difference between the actual signal and the noise (interference). For example, if you have a signal of 200 with a "noise" level of 20 and adding an amplifier increases the signal to 250 then the underlying noise will have gone up to 25.

What this means is that the signal will appear stronger but as soon as it rains the signal will disappear just the same as with no amplifier installed.

To reduce rain drop out there are four ways to improve the "Carrier to Noise Ratio".

1. Align the dish properly
2. Use a bigger dish
3. Use a LNB with a better "Carrier to Noise Ratio"
4. Run the cable direct to the decoder, no breaks, no splitters and no concealed wiring.

From the forums, it looks like Astro are trying to improve rain drop out by improving all 4!

If anyone has not allowed direct cable to decoder connection or even worse, kept their old dish / LNB then you have really lost out!

Most ppl here seem to get a major improvement in signal strength without an amplifier, whatever your installer says don't let him sell you an amplifier, it amplifies the signal and the noise giving no real improvement other than better numbers on the screen.

The best thing to do is to get the install done correctly and not to let the installer do a poor installation!

Think about it, the installer does a bad install with a poor signal, then he sells you an amplifier!

Got a problem today. All the HD channels got no picture. Can hear the sound. Got a message says "Copy protection failed"

had to call the hotline. They say just off the mains and on back. Works!

Add me in list

edmundq - kuching, sarawak.

got my b.yond installed. Cant watch yet cause ASTRO service centre too busy, and installer cannot get through to activate. he told me a couple of things:

the black dish are for those who need 2 LNB's, 2 seperate decoders. he installed a new 'white' dish and i got a signal of 215. Have i been told right on this?

All ASTRO smartcards will be paired to their decoders, so no more swapping. New and Old, HD and SD.

Got screwed by my previous installer. thinking of complaining to ASTRO about it.He wired the ODU to the 'low quality' concealed wire for simple antennae. So my signal for the old system was about 45 only. He says can use, no problem. Didnt check cause not activated for a few hours, and my 1st ASTRO, so know nothing.

Please elaborate what does AV represent -- component out or composite out?

Thanks

Tnx for the interesting enlightenment. I was also thinking of the same logic too i.e It will be better if no distortion in between all the connection. Well mine is direct for sure..& less than 2M long bcos the decorder to the dish is close to each other (My DTU is inside my master bedroom & the dish just located outside...Me getting 255 dy...The earlier recommendation is only for those complaining getting less than 200..

AV + Composite out (1) - Red , White (for Audio signal ) + Yellow is Composite, Video signal
Component out - 3 cable - Blue , Green , Red (Video Signal)

1. apexg2
2. kelvin (Penang)
3. torreto (Subang Jaya/Kelantan)
4. rayfoo
5. l_berd (Penang)
6. RAMChYLD (Klang)
7. Cyberian (Sepang)
8. azri (U5, Shah Alam)
9. teikwing (Taiping, Perak)
10. AjKR06 (Bgn Serai, Perak)
11. horray (Petaling Jaya, Selangor)
12. LCP (Penang)
13. pknride (pekan,pahang)
14. dsubra (Klang)
15. tHeRiDdLeR (Serdang, Selangor)
16. economist (PJ,Sgor)
17. honamd77(Kuantan,Pahang)
18. zwanvedder(meru, setia alam) just finished installation by ASTRO
19. ape (Shah Alam)
20. Iman210 (Pinggiran USJ, Subang Jaya)
21. kuekss (Sunway SPK Damansara,KL)
22. crossmaniac (saujana utama sg buloh)
23. ssyam ( dungun, Terengganu )
24. edthrax (ttdi, KL)
25. twL (Klang)
26. maja_5365(Nilai)
27. pirateguy
28. stimix
29. tailesley (Bukit Jalil)
30. suffeylp (Shah Alam)
31. sun_flower5 (Cheras,Selangor)
32. wcloh111 (Bkt. Mertajam, Penang)
33. seed80 (Seremban)
34. allenultra (Gunung Rapat, Ipoh, Perak)
35. yanhui95 (Petaling Jaya, Selangor)
36. ScienceFreak (Gombak)
37. low98944 (Kuching, Sarawak)
38. R.ap7or (Penang)
39. Ares187 ( Pandan Indah )
40. darenlks (Cheras, Selangor)
41. Putih (USJ, Selangor)
42. anfieldude (Penang)
43. Donald G.H Tan (Klang)
44. rhemo (Kuching,Sarawak)
45. mlthum (Puchong, Selangor)
46. hoffmeister (Bandar Baru Bangi, Selangor)
47. yonggoh (Kuching, Sarawak)
48. tchwang (Hijauan Residence, Cheras Selangor)
49. stryfox (kuching, sarawak)
50. snake1x (Bandar Seri Putra, Kajang)
51. maxpudding (KK, Sabah)
52. fly1968 (Cheras, KL)
53. jackdon
54. Ninja (Ampang, Selangor)
55. kaspersky-fan (hartamas, kl)
56. jeanspearly (JB, Johor)
57. ocdetective (Bukit Damansara, KL)
58. amirsubhi (Taman Seri Gombak, Selangor)
59. cycloneopp (Taman Sri Bahagia, Cheras)
60. Shevagol (Tmn. Lestari Putra, Sri Kembangan)
61. Morpheuzneo (Seri Kembangan)
62. auronthas
63. vickyrao (sunway)
64. edmundq (kuching, sarawak)

Since you are using RF cable earlier..I think youi forgotten about the AV-RF converter dy..

1. apexg2
2. kelvin (Penang)
3. torreto (Subang Jaya/Kelantan)
4. rayfoo
5. l_berd (Penang)
6. RAMChYLD (Klang)
7. Cyberian (Sepang)
8. azri (U5, Shah Alam)
9. teikwing (Taiping, Perak)
10. AjKR06 (Bgn Serai, Perak)
11. horray (Petaling Jaya, Selangor)
12. LCP (Penang)
13. pknride (pekan,pahang)
14. dsubra (Klang)
15. tHeRiDdLeR (Serdang, Selangor)
16. economist (PJ,Sgor)
17. honamd77(Kuantan,Pahang)
18. zwanvedder(meru, setia alam) just finished installation by ASTRO
19. ape (Shah Alam)
20. Iman210 (Pinggiran USJ, Subang Jaya)
21. kuekss (Sunway SPK Damansara,KL)
22. crossmaniac (saujana utama sg buloh)
23. ssyam ( dungun, Terengganu )
24. edthrax (ttdi, KL)
25. twL (Klang)
26. maja_5365(Nilai)
27. pirateguy
28. stimix
29. tailesley (Bukit Jalil)
30. suffeylp (Shah Alam)
31. sun_flower5 (Cheras,Selangor)
32. wcloh111 (Bkt. Mertajam, Penang)
33. seed80 (Seremban)
34. allenultra (Gunung Rapat, Ipoh, Perak)
35. yanhui95 (Petaling Jaya, Selangor)
36. ScienceFreak (Gombak)
37. low98944 (Kuching, Sarawak)
38. R.ap7or (Penang)
39. Ares187 ( Pandan Indah )
40. darenlks (Cheras, Selangor)
41. Putih (USJ, Selangor)
42. anfieldude (Penang)
43. Donald G.H Tan (Klang)
44. rhemo (Kuching,Sarawak)
45. mlthum (Puchong, Selangor)
46. hoffmeister (Bandar Baru Bangi, Selangor)
47. yonggoh (Kuching, Sarawak)
48. tchwang (Hijauan Residence, Cheras Selangor)
49. stryfox (kuching, sarawak)
50. snake1x (Bandar Seri Putra, Kajang)
51. maxpudding (KK, Sabah)
52. fly1968 (Cheras, KL)
53. jackdon
54. Ninja (Ampang, Selangor)
55. kaspersky-fan (hartamas, kl)
56. jeanspearly (JB, Johor)
57. ocdetective (Bukit Damansara, KL)
58. amirsubhi (Taman Seri Gombak, Selangor)
59. cycloneopp (Taman Sri Bahagia, Cheras)
60. Shevagol (Tmn. Lestari Putra, Sri Kembangan)
61. Morpheuzneo (Seri Kembangan)
62. auronthas
63. vickyrao (sunway)
64. edmundq (kuching, sarawak)
65. eldrow (Puchong, Selangor)

bro..u might get dissapointed..F1 is on Star Sports..not ESPN
only when Star has a much more important event to broadcast like a Cup Final or something, only then ESPN come in to broadcast F1..
WE MUST HOPE ASTRO HAS MORE HD CHANNELS QUICKLY!!!

i saw the advertisement in skysport.com say f1 in espn.. not sure about that though

finally...i got my astro b.yond installed
Registered on 15th dec
T&C on 15th dec
after many complain
installed on 5th january

it's still activating and software update
they didn't change the cable or the satellite dish...but they leave it to us..it's all here
signal is 220-222

but the weird thing is they didn't take back anything.....they say their boss told them not to take back anything

my installer had a list of things he needed to take back. took all, cable, dish, decoder, smartcard. didnt take the AV cable though. it might come in handy in future.

mine not activated yet. installer didn't call me back inform about activation. ASTRO call centre swamped with calls to activate.

Since we pay RM20 monthly just for the HD, what the point that faithfull customer like us since 1999 need this work-around eqmt. why so messy, having those uncessary supporting device around the decoder and display device, perhaps their 2nd decoder programme didn't got well respond, therefore the RF is not included in this new Byond decoder. I'm abit regret now, as I expect much handy/smarter decoder earlier.

Using AV-RF converter expect worst pic quality.

mine...he activate it in front of me with his HP
now waiting lo
but very weirdly...when i ask him want to take back..right?
thn he say no need...lol
10 minutes finish....
didn't even change the dish
he say my area only have 4 applicants
i tested the volume...eventhough didn't update yet...it works...not like other LYNers say that it doesn't work
and SD isn't worse...it's still the same and ABIT BIT better...maybe my eye blur

1. apexg2
2. kelvin (Penang)
3. torreto (Subang Jaya/Kelantan)
4. rayfoo
5. l_berd (Penang)
6. RAMChYLD (Klang)
7. Cyberian (Sepang)
8. azri (U5, Shah Alam)
9. teikwing (Taiping, Perak)
10. AjKR06 (Bgn Serai, Perak)
11. horray (Petaling Jaya, Selangor)
12. LCP (Penang)
13. pknride (pekan,pahang)
14. dsubra (Klang)
15. tHeRiDdLeR (Serdang, Selangor)
16. economist (PJ,Sgor)
17. honamd77(Kuantan,Pahang)
18. zwanvedder(meru, setia alam) just finished installation by ASTRO
19. ape (Shah Alam)
20. Iman210 (Pinggiran USJ, Subang Jaya)
21. kuekss (Sunway SPK Damansara,KL)
22. crossmaniac (saujana utama sg buloh)
23. ssyam ( dungun, Terengganu )
24. edthrax (ttdi, KL)
25. twL (Klang)
26. maja_5365(Nilai)
27. pirateguy
28. stimix
29. tailesley (Bukit Jalil)
30. suffeylp (Shah Alam)
31. sun_flower5 (Cheras,Selangor)
32. wcloh111 (Bkt. Mertajam, Penang)
33. seed80 (Seremban)
34. allenultra (Gunung Rapat, Ipoh, Perak)
35. yanhui95 (Petaling Jaya, Selangor)
36. ScienceFreak (Gombak)
37. low98944 (Kuching, Sarawak)
38. R.ap7or (Penang)
39. Ares187 ( Pandan Indah )
40. darenlks (Cheras, Selangor)
41. Putih (USJ, Selangor)
42. anfieldude (Penang)
43. Donald G.H Tan (Klang)
44. rhemo (Kuching,Sarawak)
45. mlthum (Puchong, Selangor)
46. hoffmeister (Bandar Baru Bangi, Selangor)
47. yonggoh (Kuching, Sarawak)
48. tchwang (Hijauan Residence, Cheras Selangor)
49. stryfox (kuching, sarawak)
50. snake1x (Bandar Seri Putra, Kajang)
51. maxpudding (KK, Sabah)
52. fly1968 (Cheras, KL)
53. jackdon
54. Ninja (Ampang, Selangor)
55. kaspersky-fan (hartamas, kl)
56. jeanspearly (JB, Johor)
57. ocdetective (Bukit Damansara, KL)
58. amirsubhi (Taman Seri Gombak, Selangor)
59. cycloneopp (Taman Sri Bahagia, Cheras)
60. Shevagol (Tmn. Lestari Putra, Sri Kembangan)
61. Morpheuzneo (Seri Kembangan)
62. auronthas
63. vickyrao (sunway)
64. edmundq (kuching, sarawak)
65. eldrow (Puchong, Selangor)
66. zephyrous (Setia Alam, Shah Alam)

the new smart card is activating and i'm now using the old smart card to watch TV in the meantime
and old smart card can work on this new DMT

Can the old smart card watch HD channels ??

the old smart card can detect teh HD channel but cannot watch
it say the channel is not in your subscription