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post Jan 13 2010, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(willkso @ Jan 13 2010, 05:16 PM)
Check your sound setting in the Byond decoder. It should be stereo out and not surround. Surround only if your TV able to decode DD.
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I think I have tried changing it using the astro remote but still doesn't work. For normal channel there is no problem with the sound.
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post Jan 13 2010, 05:25 PM

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Wah! Composite output can have copy protection? I thought it only applies to HDMI.
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post Jan 13 2010, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Jan 13 2010, 04:31 PM)
yes.. i feel really shocked now!
how come even composite also can be HDCP....
My TV card does not have component input...
just have s-video, Composite, normal UHF/VHF antenna and FM radio...
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Depends on TV card. Those which support "Macrovision" will deny recording. The following works for me:

B.yond -(Composite)-> VCR -(RF)-> TV tuner/video capture card. The RF actually goes to a splitter which connect to tuner card and my TV as well.

VCC is my old four year old FlyDVB-T Duo. Although to be fair got strange low-to-high pitch emitting in audio track of video randomly. I suspect it's due to interference from RF, my VCR is set to transmit at UHF channel 49. Granted, I cannot get stereo sound if I do that, but meh. Stereo sound can recreate using appropriate plugin.

At least, no problem recording some new Tama & Friends spinoff from Astro Ceria for a friend in the US last Saturday.

The only solution to your problem as I see it is to try to locate a "Macrovision remover". Good luck, it's kinda hard to find and may be expensive, and I dunno it's legal status in Malaysia.

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: Jan 13 2010, 05:50 PM
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post Jan 13 2010, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(zaj @ Jan 13 2010, 03:46 PM)
nope the decoder doesn't support the bravia sync...however u can operate your sony tv/ht by using the decoder remote on/off,volume and av
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so that i connect the astro decorder via hdmi, the sony sync automaticly no funtion? or the dvd n lcd sync still working, or only astro no working???
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post Jan 13 2010, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(RAMChYLD @ Jan 13 2010, 05:31 PM)
Depends on TV card. Those which support "Macrovision" will deny recording. The following works for me:

B.yond -(Composite)-> VCR -(RF)-> TV tuner/video capture card.

VCC is my old four year old FlyDVB-T Duo. Although to be fair got strange low-to-high pitch emitting in audio track of video randomly. I suspect it's due to interference from RF, my VCR is set to transmit at UHF channel 49.

At least, no problem recording some new Tama & Friends spinoff from Astro Ceria for a friend in the US.

The only solution to your problem as I see it is to try to locate a "Macrovision remover". Good luck, it's kinda hard to find and may be expensive, and I dunno it's legal status in Malaysia.
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so you mean, my TV Card does not support HDCP.., isn't it?
and what is macrovision.. and what type of tv card that does not supoort Macrovision...
I really confuesd now and tomorrow I will ask the shop where I can change to other tv card....


Added on January 13, 2010, 5:39 pm
QUOTE(pirateguy @ Jan 13 2010, 05:25 PM)
Wah! Composite output can have copy protection? I thought it only applies to HDMI.
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yes, they're...
it has happened to me just now...
Really dissapointed now... yawn.gif
it's just wasting my rm130 bucks to bought that tv card...


Added on January 13, 2010, 5:42 pmIt's that component output can slove my problems here??

This post has been edited by AjkR06: Jan 13 2010, 05:42 PM
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post Jan 13 2010, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Jan 13 2010, 05:37 PM)
so you mean, my TV Card does not support HDCP.., isn't it?
and what is macrovision.. and what type of tv card that does not supoort Macrovision...
I really confuesd now and tomorrow I will ask the shop where I can change to other tv card....
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No, Macrovision is an older kind of copy protection that's used for Analog. Normally only use on NTSC signals in US. It's actual name is Analog Protection System or Copyguard. Wiki link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_Protection_System

Normally not used outside US. Guess things changed sad.gif

As for TV card that does not support Macrovision, well, very much older cards. Like from 5-10 years ago (i.e. I know my PowerMacintosh G3's card apparently doesn't support Macrovision, but the pulses on the picture will be somewhat visible). My Lifeview I'm not really sure why it works.

Have you also tried using different program to capture, say Virtualdub or anything else? Also, maybe only certain channels copy protected? I so far only try recording Astro Ceria because of a friend from the US who's crazy about Tama and Friends.

Also, dun need to return. All you need to do is figure out how to built a macrovision remover or where to buy. I cannot talk about that since I'm not sure of the legal status, but can say: Google Is Your Friend.

Good Luck!

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: Jan 13 2010, 05:56 PM
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post Jan 13 2010, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Jan 13 2010, 05:37 PM)
so you mean, my TV Card does not support HDCP.., isn't it?
and what is macrovision.. and what type of tv card that does not supoort Macrovision...
I really confuesd now and tomorrow I will ask the shop where I can change to other tv card....


Added on January 13, 2010, 5:39 pm

yes, they're...
it has happened to me just now...
Really dissapointed now...  yawn.gif
it's just wasting my rm130 bucks to bought that tv card...


Added on January 13, 2010, 5:42 pmIt's that component output can slove my problems here??
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But if you try it with the composite output of the old Astro decoder, how?
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post Jan 13 2010, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Jan 13 2010, 02:34 PM)
you have all the rotten luck with astro...tell me what have u complained to astro to deserve all of these incidents?  laugh.gif
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Maybe my bad luck i guest. sad.gif Just call back my installer ask when wanna come back to install, and he say tommorow evening. biggrin.gif
Hope they don't forget to bring a cable tommorrow.

Before installer going back he just leave dish in my house and i check it is ODU 65 with dark grey color. thumbup.gif

BTW the installer office at Desa Petaling. So far away from my house at damansara damai.

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QUOTE(azrin_kiko @ Jan 12 2010, 04:01 PM)
Home button -> Settings -> Installation Settings  (default pin: 0000) -> Satellite Settings -> OK -> scroll down to 18 MEASAT 3A(VH) press OK -> confirm change choose YES
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dah try buat ni..signal terus naik dari 22o ke 250... smile.gif
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QUOTE(zaj @ Jan 13 2010, 03:46 PM)
nope the decoder doesn't support the bravia sync...however u can operate your sony tv/ht by using the decoder remote on/off,volume and av
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Set up like this
Byond decoder HDMI to TV (HDMI 1 slot) and HDMI 2 out to HT plus digital audio from Byond to HT

You need to correctly sync your TV to the home theatre using braivia sync (Surprisingly this is a pain of a task and if you haven't done it you will need the manual of both the TV and HT to do it) then lastly ensure you programme the sony remote.

Sync the astro remote using the code 1825 or was it 1285? check the manual

Then sync the remote to control the audio by pressing ok and vol up. This time it will control the audio of the HT instead of the TV.

If you have set all menu functions correctly on the TV and HT your astro remote will now control

HT
power
mute
volumn

on the TV
power
input sellection

Byond
all functions

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post Jan 13 2010, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(pirateguy @ Jan 13 2010, 05:58 PM)
But if you try it with the composite output of the old Astro decoder, how?
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yes... I have tried with my old Max decoder...
everything was just fine....


Added on January 13, 2010, 6:23 pm
QUOTE(RAMChYLD @ Jan 13 2010, 05:44 PM)
No, Macrovision is an older kind of copy protection that's used for Analog. Normally only use on NTSC signals in US. It's actual name is Analog Protection System or Copyguard. Wiki link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_Protection_System

Normally not used outside US. Guess things changed sad.gif

As for TV card that does not support Macrovision, well, very much older cards. Like from 5-10 years ago (i.e. I know my PowerMacintosh G3's card apparently doesn't support Macrovision, but the pulses on the picture will be somewhat visible). My Lifeview I'm not really sure why it works.

Have you also tried using different program to capture, say Virtualdub or anything else? Also, maybe only certain channels copy protected? I so far only try recording Astro Ceria because of a friend from the US who's crazy about Tama and Friends.

Also, dun need to return. All you need to do is figure out how to built a macrovision remover or where to buy. I cannot talk about that since I'm not sure of the legal status, but can say: Google Is Your Friend.

Good Luck!
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yes.. I have tried with other software.., only Corel Video Studio can support that Macrovision I think...
maybe I sill just use Corel Video studio to record my tv programmes...
Just Corel video studio cannot set the timer to record...

This post has been edited by AjkR06: Jan 13 2010, 06:23 PM
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I am using my samsung DVD dvr player deck to record beyond feed, connected Through composite cables,in HD channel and normal channel , no problem at all recording.


recording using composite .. sd channel
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recording using composite.. hd channel
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hrm if component has macrovision protection, is this a reason why my tv top half get distorted? assuming my tv doest support such protection?
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Jan 13 2010, 06:41 PM)
hrm if component has macrovision protection, is this a reason why my tv top half get distorted? assuming my tv doest support such protection?
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Maybe the top half is a 'signal' to all the video cards with Macro that tells it to not allow copying?
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post Jan 13 2010, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(pirateguy @ Jan 13 2010, 06:42 PM)
Maybe the top half is a 'signal' to all the video cards with Macro that tells it to not allow copying?
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u know im laughing real hard

so many streams in astro is deemed to be pure crappy quality, and yet they still wana do this protection for their downscaled hd heavily censored channels....

really shameful man, look at their mtv asia, i think it barely hit off 3Mbps..... mtv korea is 6Mbps VBR with 192kbps dolby digital, and yet many ppl still able to rip the digital stream out.... ini asstro quality broadcast like peanuts mau mengada2 lagi... ZzZ


i got try plugging the green component plug to composite, then my tv displays the picture well... just that its black and white, no colour lol
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QUOTE(TVSPY @ Jan 13 2010, 06:15 PM)
Set up like this
Byond decoder HDMI to TV (HDMI 1 slot) and HDMI 2 out to HT plus digital audio from Byond to HT

You need to correctly sync your TV to the home theatre using braivia sync (Surprisingly this is a pain of a task and if you haven't done it you will need the manual of both the TV and HT to do it) then lastly ensure you programme the sony remote.

Sync the astro remote using the code 1825 or was it 1285? check the manual

Then sync the remote to control the audio by pressing ok and vol up. This time it will control the audio of the HT instead of the TV.

If you have set all menu functions correctly on the TV and HT your astro remote will now control

HT
power
mute
volumn

on the TV
power
input sellection

Byond
all functions
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so that my sony sync still working la?? when i on the dvd, the tv automaticly switch to dvd input???

do u know wht i mean???
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post Jan 13 2010, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Jan 13 2010, 06:48 PM)
u know im laughing real hard

so many streams in astro is deemed to be pure crappy quality, and yet they still wana do this protection for their downscaled hd heavily censored channels....

really shameful man, look at their mtv asia, i think it barely hit off 3Mbps..... mtv korea is 6Mbps VBR with 192kbps dolby digital, and yet many ppl still able to rip the digital stream out.... ini asstro quality broadcast like peanuts mau mengada2 lagi... ZzZ
i got try plugging the green component plug to composite, then my tv displays the picture well... just that its black and white, no colour lol
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But when you look at the piracy, do you think they care about the bitrate?

Pirates are selling VCD's of WWE Pay Per View to the public and majority of the people still buy it.


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QUOTE(pirateguy @ Jan 13 2010, 06:52 PM)
But when you look at the piracy, do you think they care about the bitrate?

Pirates are selling VCD's of WWE Pay Per View to the public and majority of the people still buy it.
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yea..but composite no problem... so? still a failed tactic.... still will be ppl recording from there, quality a bit poorer but still watchable lol

so where does this bring them? back to the same prob lol
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Jan 13 2010, 06:57 PM)
yea..but composite no problem... so? still a failed tactic.... still will be ppl recording from there, quality a bit poorer but still watchable lol

so where does this bring them? back to the same prob lol
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I did recorded some movies via HDMI & Composite in the 2nd day after my byond installed, both still looks good (SD quality lah), simply this rosak component out don't work. Astro Technician came also useless, he can't locate the problem and yet I found that he didn't submit my complaints back to astro office after I called Astro CS again last saturday.

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