i miss it badly..lol..especially big guy like me..very clumsy.. >.<

i remove the lens and turn on the camera, no sound..
when i put the lens back only comes d sound..

gizmo_pony: yeah..that sound..but its longer n vibrating more..

then you sould go for a550 or 500...buy second hand lens first la..1870 or 1855

wow wow wow, could it be gear stripping? try use another lens? (or borrow if u dont have 2nd lens)

sifus...is cpl filter good on d kitlens?i mean is it worth getting one of that for the kitlens...and how much does 1 usually costs

i not sifu, but i wanan answer i only know the cheapest cpl brand octopus selling for like rm80 only, if u go for branded ones like Hoya pro1d or b+w, then it will cost around rm200+ i guess? and depends on your thread size too. i think not really worth it to get cpl lens for filter, better upgrade to better lens first only get a good cpl

p/s: cheapo cpl can cause glaring and lower quality image...

i believe if u know how to use it.. the kitlens is powerful enuff..
CPL filter is good on ANY lens looking at HOW U FRAME the shot..



how much? depends on the filter thread size, and brand..
cheap2 one like octopus for 55mm is around RM50 and 62mm is around RM60
we got sellers here at the Garage Sales.. bought mine from shlow1819

ooOoo..well somehow expected this...thanks for d advice!!

ooOoo..i see i see...but RM 50~60 is quite afforable...n i think with cpl's effect im really interested to get 1 of those even for my kitty....let's consider consider...thx bro

This post has been edited by ReasonsofThanatos: Jan 17 2010, 10:21 PM

get at least Hoya CPL...they are cheap yet good quality.

i thought Hoya's CPL would be d top shelf n with sky high price??but its quality is guaranteed though...

just bought a hoya HD CPL yesterday..waiting for delivery =D
love their thin glass n the scratch proof thingy..

that "virtually indestructable" filter right? wow...how much it costs??

woooo...hello there AlphaBeta...it is been a while since ur last visit..

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Added on January 17, 2010, 10:37 pmthe filter for f2.8 or f1.8?

This post has been edited by hafeez71: Jan 17 2010, 10:37 PM

Well to talk about retail prices, yes like A550 was eventually expensive in body (although the price on China, Japan site was selling in different price point and they offer the kit lens) compared to Nikon D90 making others to really consider a lacking on maximizing low ISO features (ISO 100), less customize, lacking important features but high speed capture, average IQ (overall good High ISO IQ and amazing HDR image capture) would be a pick to their pocket or not

most likely A300/A350 still delivers good IQ on outdoor shooting and from technical perspective, the so called Sky Noise problem on A300/A350 was less noticeable compared to A450/A500/A550

if you likely to go perhaps... erm err and yeah willing to have a try on second hand, I guess give an A300/A350 (wanted to sell my one >.<) a try

This post has been edited by wingster: Jan 17 2010, 10:42 PM

yea..that one..

HD UV 77mm = 93sgd
HD CPL 77mm = 145sgd

both my 2.8 n 1.8 r 77mm..so yea..i can swap around..

Zen-X: Sounds like gear stripping. Your lens is spoiled. If you don't agree to the price of repair, the kit lens is sold for cheap.

eddybeh: Best you go there and ask. Not like you can clean fungus anywhere else anyway, only these shops do it. If you send to any other camera shop they will send to these repair shops anyway.

cjlai: I'm not talking about focusing in a room with the lights off - there was an event which I shot and the client was sitting outdoors, outside the restaurant. You could still see them with your eyes, but through the viewfinder it was just too dark to see if it was in focus or not with a F3.5 lens. The camera AF ended up focusing on a rattan chair but I could not see this at this kind of darkness. Obviously I cannot be focusing on a corner with light because that was already out of the plane of focus.

kmarc: Yes, the 18-250mm and 50mm F1.8 makes a good duo.

neo_lam: Nice!

Quickerzranoid: Not true.

Cheapest full-frame dSLR:
Canon 5D MkII = RM8850
Nikon D700 = RM7850
Sony A850 = RM6050

Flashes

Top end flash:
Canon 580 EX II = RM1750
Nikon SB-900 = RM1640
Sony HVL-F58AM = RM1130

Low end flash:
Canon 430EX II = RM1130
Nikon SB-600 = RM800
Sony HVL-F42AM = RM780

APS-C lenses

APS-C superzoom:
Nikkor 18-200mm F3.5-5.6 VR II = RM2700
Canon 18-200mm F3.5-5.6 IS = RM2600
Sigma 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 OS HSM = RM2450
Sigma 18-200mm f3.5-6.3 OS HSM = RM1760
Tamron 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 = RM1640
Sony 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 DT = RM1600
Sony 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 DT = RM1550
Tamron 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 = RM1050

APS-C midrange standard zoom:
Canon 17-85mm F4-5.6 IS USM = RM2430
Sony Carl Zeiss 16-80mm F3.5-4.5 DT = RM2300
Nikkor 16-85mm F3.5-5.6 AF-S = RM2150
Sony 16-105mm F3.5-5.6 DT = RM1650
Sigma 18-125mm F3.8-5.6 OS HSM = RM1490
Sigma 17-70mm f2.8-4.5 Macro HSM = RM1490
Nikkor 18-105mm F3.5-5.6 VR = RM1150

APS-C F2.8 standard zoom: (Sony does not have an APS-C F2.8 zoom.)
Nikkor 17-55mm F2.8 AF-S = 4950
Canon 17-55mm F2.8 IS USM = RM3870
Sigma 18-50mm F2.8 Macro HSM = RM1850
Tamron 17-50mm F2.8 = RM1550

Cheap APS-C telephoto zoom:
Nikkor 55-200mm F4-5.6 AF-S VR = RM940
Canon 55-250mm F4-5.6 IS = RM920
Sony 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT = RM680 (in package, can go down to RM300)

APS-C ultra-wide angle zoom:
Nikkor 12-24mm F4 AF-S = RM3550
Canon 10-22mm F3.5-4.5 USM = RM2730
Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6 DC HSM = RM2270
Sony 11-18mm F4.5-5.6 DT = RM2000
Tamron 10-24mm F3.5-4.5 = RM1960

APS-C normal prime: (you can count the Sony 30mm F2.8 DT Macro SAM in this also.)
Sigma 30mm F1.4 = RM1850
Nikkor 35mm F1.8 AF-S = RM800
Sony 30mm F2.8 DT Macro SAM = RM790

Cheaper low light portrait prime: (Only Sony 50mm F1.8 is APS-C)
Nikkor 50mm F1.8 AF-D = RM400
Canon 50mm F1.8 II = RM320
Sony 50mm F1.8 DT SAM = RM300-500 (depends where and what package)

Full-frame lenses

Standard zoom:
Canon 24-105mm F4L IS USM = RM4380
Nikkor 24-120mm F3.5-5.6 VR = RM2050
Sony 24-105mm F3.5-4.5 = RM1850

Budget F2.8 standard zoom:
Sony 28-75mm F2.8 SAM = RM2550
Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 Macro = RM2030
Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 = RM1670

Premium F2.8 standard zoom:
Nikkor 24-70mm F2.8 AF-S = RM5850
Canon 24-70mm F2.8L USM = RM5400
Sony Carl Zeiss 24-70mm F2.8 SSM = RM5350
Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 HSM = RM3710

Budget telephoto zoom:
Canon 75-300mm F4-5.6 III USM = RM800
Sony 75-300mm F4.5-5.6 = RM780 (RM500 second-hand)
Canon 75-300mm F4-5.6 III = RM720
Nikkor 70-300mm F4-5.6G = RM440

Midrange telephoto zoom:
Canon 70-300mm F4-5.6 IS USM = RM3000
Sony 70-300mm F4.5-5.6G SSM = RM2550
Nikkor 70-300mm F4.5-5.6 AF-S VR = RM1900

Cheaper F4 telephoto zoom:
Canon 70-200mm F4L USM = RM2850 (no IS)
Minolta 70-210mm F4 beercan = RM1000 (only available second-hand)

Premium F2.8 telephoto zoom:
Canon 70-200mm F2.8 IS USM = RM7350 (this is the old one, not the much better version II)
Nikkor 70-200mm F2.8 AF-S VR = RM6350 (this is the old one, not the much better VR II)
Sony 70-200mm F2.8G SSM = RM5550
Sigma 70-200mm F2.8 II Macro HSM = RM3890
Tamron 70-200mm F2.8 = RM2970

Premium telephoto zoom:
Canon 100-400mm F4.5-5.6L IS USM = RM6210
Nikkor 80-400mm F4.5-5.6 AF-D = RM5650
Sony 70-400mm F4-5.6G SSM = RM5400

Premium F2.8 ultra-wide-angle zoom:
Nikkor 17-35mm F2.8 AF-S = RM6440
Nikkor 14-24mm F2.8 AF-S = RM6000
Canon 16-35mm F2.8L II USM = RM5850
Sony Carl Zeiss 16-35mm F2.8 SSM = RM5400

Macro lenses

Telephoto macro prime:
Canon 100mm F2.8L Macro IS USM = RM3395
Nikkor 105mm F2.8 IS = RM3100
Sony 100mm F2.8 Macro = RM2300
Sigma 105mm F2.8 Macro = RM1910
Tamron 90mm F2.8 Macro = RM1470

Normal full-frame macro prime:
Nikkor 60mm F2.8 Macro AF-S = RM2000
Canon 60mm F2.8 Macro USM = RM1850
Sony 50mm F2.8 Macro = RM1450
Sigma 50mm F2.8 Macro = RM1250

APS-C normal macro prime: (the only other brand that has something like this is Pentax/Tokina)
Sony 30mm F2.8 DT Macro SAM = RM790

Prime lenses

Full-frame diagonal fisheye:
Nikkor 16mm F2.8 = RM2750
Sigma 15mm F2.8 = RM2690
Canon 15mm F2.8 = RM2680
Sony 16mm F2.8 = RM2550

Full-frame ultra-wide-angle prime:
Sigma 20mm F1.8 Macro = RM2150
Nikkor 20mm F2.8 AF-D = RM1950
Sony 20mm F2.8 = RM1950
Canon 20mm F2.8 USM = RM1790

Full-frame wide-angle prime:
Sigma 28mm F1.8 Macro = RM1490
Nikkor 28mm F2.8 AF-D = RM900
Sony 28mm F2.8 = RM880
Canon 28mm F2.8 = RM800

Premium F1.4 full-frame wide-angle prime:
Canon 35mm F1.4L USM = RM5070
Sony 35mm F1.4G = RM4550

Low light normal prime:
Sigma 50mm F1.4 HSM = RM2140
Nikkor AF-S 50mm F1.4 = RM1840
Canon 50mm F1.4 USM = RM1430
Sony 50mm F1.4 = RM1100
Nikkor AF-D 50mm F1.4 = RM1050

Premium portrait prime:
Canon 85mm F1.2L II USM = RM8750
Sony Carl Zeiss 85mm F1.4 = RM4850
Nikkor 85mm F1.4 AF-D = RM3850

Premium telephoto portrait prime:
Sony Carl Zeiss 135mm F1.8 = RM4850
Nikkor 135mm F2.0 AF-D Defocus Control = RM4430
Sony 135mm F2.8/T4.5 Smooth Transition Focus = RM3650
Canon 135mm F2.0L USM = RM3385

Premium telephoto prime:
Sony 300mm F2.8G SSM = RM20050
Canon 300mm F2.8L IS USM = RM18750
Nikkor 300mm F2.8 AF-S G VR = RM16960
Sigma 300mm F2.8 EX DG HSM = RM9940

Prices quoted from http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/885593 and http://www.shashinki.com/.

This post has been edited by albnok: Jan 18 2010, 12:52 AM

if you're on a budget in the long run, I sugest you get the a450/a500/a550. it's a much better investment than the a380. not sure about the D3000... it's a bit small for me. if you have a small hand, it should be ok. but, if not, then don't bother... it's seriously is uncomfortable to have my pinkie finger hanging below the camera grip while shooting. Maybe by getting a vertical grip would solve the problem. but then it would mean more investment. might as well get a camera that is comfortable in your hands and invest more for lenses.

And when it comes to lenses, Sony lenses and accessories are quite cheaper than either N or C. but N or C have more variety when it comes to accessories and third party lenses. But, Sony cameras can use Minolta lenses that have a wider variety of ranges. and it's cheaper!

So, it is really up to you. if you're on a budget, get the sony. If you don't mind spending more in the long run, get the Nikon. But please... don't get the D3000. unless you don't mind waiting a while to preview your picture after you take it and having your pinkie finger hanging off the camera when using it.

bro, where do you get your Alpha stuff in Sibu? i thought sony center in Delta Mall don't have alpha???

Wah... super long list... but very useful Thanks Albert.

Very comprehensive & useful albnok.
Nice job...
Maybe can put at 1st page as the myth that Sony lenses are much more expensive than C&N keeps coming up time and again... Need to bust that myth for good (with facts).

Albnok our resident myth buster

This post has been edited by Banzai_san: Jan 17 2010, 11:34 PM

oh... good luck on your exams
nothing to see there. only table, chairs and computers. XD

faster by a day or two only because of the collection from service collection center and the delivery.

Thx! I read some reviews of the 18250 and is reassured of it's good lens. At least I didn't blunder too much on my first DSLR....

Yup. I bought it from the Sony centre in Delta Mall. They do carry the alpha models but don't have many stocks. The guy there "Lawrence" said that they have ordered stocks long time ago but never came.