the beauty of 7/8mm fish eye.



(and the laughter in the photo makes me smile...)

destfull: felt sorry for u, do what ianho suggested. hope the thief is stupid enough to send ur unit for servicing.

albnok: nice catch, errr i mean buy~ the IQ is good for the 85mm?

wow, i smell 85mm on my wishlist... lol

used A550 for a wedding shoot, what a marvelous machine, improve WB, improve metering, super fast and accurate AF system!(this is what i need)... speechless, but i am still waiting for A7xx... wan the 'trigger WL with F58' mode and hope this time they implement the same WLsystem of A900 into it

maybe it's the SSS broken? (thier faulty service?) that they need time to bring in a spare unit(whole sensor+SSS) from somewhere? sg no stock???

did they call u? usually when they reach your "case", and figure what's wrong/what to service, they will give u a call first to confirm with the proceed confirmation.

or perhaps its holiday season? 25 off, 26 off, half of the technician took whole week till 2nd Jan off... who knows, or christmas season and rainy season most damaged good send in for service. usually they are fast.

yea, planning to let go A300 + 1870 + 8gb mcard. and 1750 F2.8 + B+W MC filter

poison badly by fisheye...


something u shoot with fisheye, if u were to use UWA 11mm, u have to stand 3 meter up in the air...

filter usually has few types and measure by diameter.

the kitlens should be using 55mm.

for the types, the common that used to protect the lens are Multicoated Filter (like ur spectacle MC lens)(some brand will brand it as UV filter but they are the same)

the price range from rm30 to rm300... octupus (around rm50) is a decent filter i suggest. or u can get the sony's CZ filter

freddy manson: erm, the fisheye photos are from me...??? u mistaken it from finejava?

finejava: bro, when i first saw it, i was like, wow, so red... and i tot i have problem with my christmas present... (new 24" LCD), and i adjusted my lcd to ur picture calibration.. duhhh, i am so wrong...

there is 2 red for such redish photo if u think u shoot at normally.
1. the ceiling is red, bounced down back red, causing everything to be tinted red (which i doubt)
2. CZ lens with creative mode +?+?+?.... if u are using CZ, best is to set ur creative mode to standard +0 +0 +0, even a little +1 will throw the color off to vivid color (but it is still subjective to personal choice and liking) cz is beautiful as it is at +0 +0 +?

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Added on December 30, 2009, 11:00 pmunder dim light? does the AF illu lite up?

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finejava : ohh, it could be i always watch out for color ceiling, lucky it's just red, acceptable color, if green, i cant imagine my set of photo turn green~... lol

freddy manson: my bad, just saw the geavity, hahahaha >>> finejave faster show us ur fisheye!

finejava: take out the bower and try it...

actually it's really vivid (strong saturation) but nothing wrong, if u like it, it's okay, since christmas to me, must got strong red and green~

Uzumaki NaruTo: 8mm fisheye can self potrait

lwliam: confirm got AF... i mean, the camera can set shutter piority on AF or release... if release, i think it fire straight away with AF confirmation

iso200 is not a problem, they double up the shutterspeed(1 stop up) of A550 limit to compasate the lack of iso100 (1 stop down)

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Added on December 30, 2009, 11:52 pmbtw, i am not sure my info is correct or not, D90 also native iso200, the so called Lo mode is the chip processing, meaning it shoot at iso200, process by the expeed to darken it by 1 F stop equil~ to iso100

just the A550 lack of processing to iso100~

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my experience with my 8mm fisheye

as stated, 8mm is really really really really really wide, so wide that sometimes it's hard to control. and u have to stand to close to the subject just to make a tight frame... which u become the big block of wall infront of others.

take a look what it does to a hall....


and this


it just grab everything, literally everything, and it would become so difficult if i would have 2 more photographer walking around, capturing them into the frame.
take this as example, bad shot, capturing other photographer into the frame... i wish to move closer, but i cant, because the table+TV(u see the black box there?) is blocking me

but lucky for me, due to the ultra wwwwidddeeeeee-ness of it, flash dont really lit up the whole photo, just the center or the closest subject, thus making the background dark...


as i posted earlier in the thread, i loved this shot a lot


it made me looked like i have to float 5 meter in the air for this shot, in fact, it's just a meter above the table.

i jsut took these photo last night, i must be really crazy and daring to actually used a FishEye for a wedding job.... lol, will pass the work to the couple tomolo, finger crossed. hope they aren't dissapointed.

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well, some customer has high expectation...

can, but a lot of work, but can be cropped easily, wide photo always have the space to crop...

yup, i get u, learning to push this fisheye lens now, understand it, how it work, how it perform etc, so next time, dont need scratch head when shooting with it,..

Banzai_san: it's a FULL manual lens so u have to set the aperture urself(*edit: turning the aperture ring dail urself, it do not connect to the camera, so the camera exif will always show F1), shutter speed urself, and manual focus.

it is not difficult once u catch the idea... and thanks to albnok during april's gathering, he poison and taught me bout his peleng fisheye that i learned to much.

it doesnt not look clean because of the hall is lowlight, high ceiling(bad for flash), and i am force to use F3.5 (the fullsize photo are not sharp) and shutter speed of 1/10 (some photo i did not fire flash, like photo #1 and #2, prone to shakes) sometimes, i forgot to refocus(from infinite to 1 meter) before shutter release or vice versa.
it will be sharp after F8, really sharp (see below photo for naruto)

for the exposure, well, as i mention, 8mm is super godly wide, the flash head is design to fire at 16mm(FF format) widest at direct with wide panel flipped out. do the maths and u will know that the flash will unable to brighten up the whole photo . but as long as the subject is properly lit, it pass. there are ways method to lit up the whole area... that is more to flash knowledge

later i write up a little details bout how to use fish eye...

Uzumaki NaruTo: self portrait


likito: common shooting sytle of landscape is to have the horinzontal dead center. it's not wrong, but not really impressive way, because, it's too common. push ur head/idea further by shooting at low angle, 1/3sea 2/3 sky (for wider sky if the cloud are nice, or sunset color), or 2/3sea 1/3sky(if there is something interesting on the sea)

u have interesting subject and landscape, too bad u shot too dead center, else it will be even more impressive!

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nashakir: fully MF but it is really easy to focus, because the DOF is HUGE. F8 can shoot from 2meter to infinite sharp

yea, that is when the other 2 person who covers the wedding goes hahahaaha, but sometimes when u go too near, the perception get distorted, face big, body small... at some point is nice, but most of the time, badddd... (i shot a lot with big face, small body, and it looked, urggg... paiseh to show my friends too... will learn to use that lens more, it's really really really nice lens... very fun to play with, and it has been attach to my A300 for 1 month already, other lens just stay in drybox to grow fungus hahahaha) and i am a little heartbroken at the point, everyday i got home, i need to clean it, and... constant wiping on the lens's is not a solution, i will get it scratch someday~~ need to find something to protect it

8mm, is.. well, as i mention, godly wide... the aperture is a ring u turn ON the lens, not in the camera, use M mode, set the shutter speed at 1/10-1/60 depending how u wan to shoot it (F8 is kinda dark actually)

the self portrait photo, if i recall, it is shot at F8, 1/60, flash power at 1/16 direct with wide panel on. and focus at 1meter (the DOF would be around 0.5m to at least "20meter??" so u get max sharpness overall photo)


no, i think is beautiful... coz, well, not a common shot and it tells a good story of it's own. (and i loved it)

Nashakir: i do what like albnok did

0.3m - for face shot...

1m - for close group shot, say the round-table style... (but i seem to neglat it and choose the 1.5 more often now)

1.5-3m(they are close together) - for 'architecture', say indoor, taking the room, a small bush of flower +landscape, like street shooting (well, i have to walk up real close, imagine u walk 1.5m meter close to shoot at a person doing something... )

infinite - for landscape or anything that i wan to be sharp pass the 3m mark on the lens

albnok: well, my town, they(photographers) dont even know why my lens looked so funny.... they only know which camera to buy(d90, d90, and d90), never buy sony =.=|||... but so far, many friend started to learn, what is fisheye, and they love it when i uses my fisheye to shoot LOL...

hahaha, i dunno why, the lens errr focus list is 0.3 0.5 0.7 1m 1.5m 3m then infinity. if i was to put on 3m, shooting landscape, the infinity is not sharp....it looked like oof (when u zoomed 100%)

F58.
1. TTL means Through The Lens, mean the in body eV metering still works and it relies on it. so it will Not Fire at full power. it will fire a light(little) flash for TTL detection before it fires the 2nd power to match the metering.
*if it fires at full power, check the contact on the camera flash hotshoe. it might be improper contact, thus ur F58 only recieve fire command, then it fires at full.
2. u can set to manual mode even in other creative dail mode (A, S, P mode). on the F58, press Fn till the menu comes up. press left 4 time till u reach C04, set to PASM, (u will see a little c pop up beside the hss word), now u can use manual at all mode, it is overwrited.
3. quick change, why do u need to change aperture and shutter speed at same time? pressing and hold the [+/-] buttom and turn the dail will change the other viceversa of aperture/shutterspeed depending what u set in the menu for the dail to run.

easy, cz boost the mirco contrast by little bit. and cz is ultra slimmer then B+W.

guys, no need to be so hostile to each other, we are from the same family~ hkhk is just trying to point out, coz this question has been ask over and over more them 20 times till this v35... so it's a little annoying when ppl dont read the manual before asking. unlike some of us, willing to repeat what we answer over and over again

nashakir, u really have to play with the camera intensely for a month to get use to the way it works, it works very diff from canon or nikon. sony has it's on pattern to use, even A300/330 work so diff with A550 play with it more

and freddy manson, like hkhk, i recommend u to read the manual, or test it out urself. i dont expect myself to use google to search for the answer that u can do it urself and congrats on ur purchase. u buy 2 summore? is it cheap? is the TTL accurate in WL mode? i am soooo poison by Metz flash, but they are freaking expensive...

hahaha unless it is in korean, then i cant help u. hahahaha. btw, sony's flash must trigger with specific "trigger pattern" flash only sony can do it. they are not optical trigger-able.

for the MZ series, i have totally no diea, check if they are optical trigger-able, then it is very easy to learn already

u need tele at the beach seriously, 50 wont do any good.
leave the 50 at home... u going to shot day time more... even night, u wan to shot wide... bring a kitlens, and UWA.

day time, the tele can give u bokeh effect

for night shoot, very depending u wanted to walk out or not, most people stay inside the resort only at night, maybe some beach dinner shooting, use flash