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Photography The Sony Alpha Thread V35!, The Orange Legion

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post Jan 18 2010, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 18 2010, 12:02 AM)
Yup. I bought it from the Sony centre in Delta Mall. They do carry the alpha models but don't have many stocks. The guy there "Lawrence" said that they have ordered stocks long time ago but never came.
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post Jan 18 2010, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jan 18 2010, 12:19 AM)
Kapal karam tengah laut. tongue.gif
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Don't la like tat.... pity us isolated from the rest of the world..... sad.gif
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QUOTE(Braynumb @ Jan 17 2010, 11:05 PM)
if you're on a budget in the long run, I sugest you get the a450/a500/a550. it's a much better investment than the a380. not sure about the D3000... it's a bit small for me. if you have a small hand, it should be ok. but, if not, then don't bother... it's seriously is uncomfortable to have my pinkie finger hanging below the camera grip while shooting. Maybe by getting a vertical grip would solve the problem. but then it would mean more investment. might as well get a camera that is comfortable in your hands and invest more for lenses.

And when it comes to lenses, Sony lenses and accessories are quite cheaper than either N or C. but N or C have more variety when it comes to accessories and third party lenses. But, Sony cameras can use Minolta lenses that have a wider variety of ranges. and it's cheaper! biggrin.gif

So, it is really up to you. if you're on a budget, get the sony. If you don't mind spending more in the long run, get the Nikon. But please... don't get the D3000. unless you don't mind waiting a while to preview your picture after you take it and having your pinkie finger hanging off the camera when using it.
bro, where do you get your Alpha stuff in Sibu? i thought sony center in Delta Mall don't have alpha???
Wah... super long list... but very useful biggrin.gif Thanks Albert.
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braynumb, not trying to pop ur balloon, just to clarify.

nikon and canon might have Original accessories, but they are not any cheaper then what sony has to offer for their own. ever since sony swallowed down a percentage of the DSLR market, so many 3rd party china manufacturer trying to tap into alpha user market, so, almost every 3rd party accessories for N and C, they are now making another connectors for Alpha.

and.... third party lenses, minolta been around for years, and yes, there are many 3rd party manufacturer did make lenses for alpha mount (minolta mount).

but what makes me really think deep is, how 3rd party offer non VC/OS (like IS/VR) to sony, are sooo much cheaper then the VC/OS unit to N and C... making long run, N and C are not worth it, (since 3rd party lens IQ are the same between S/C/N mount.)

even N and C's original lens, non IS/VR are around sony's lenses, which we have SSS, but the IS/VR lenses cost extra.

[b]albnok[/] u missed out 75-300 lens under FF -Midrange telephoto zoom:, that could be even cheaper then other 70300.


Added on January 18, 2010, 12:46 am
QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 18 2010, 12:44 AM)
Don't la like tat.... pity us isolated from the rest of the world.....  sad.gif
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we should break off and become independent,... sure more harmony one biggrin.gif (kidding)

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post Jan 18 2010, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Jan 17 2010, 10:55 PM)
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borrowed your price list to recommendation thread =)
there is still katak bawah tempurung out there

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post Jan 18 2010, 12:54 AM

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ieR: You got a point there; updated the list to add:

Budget telephoto zoom:
Canon 75-300mm F4-5.6 III USM = RM800
Sony 75-300mm F4.5-5.6 = RM780 (RM500 second-hand)
Canon 75-300mm F4-5.6 III = RM720
Nikkor 70-300mm F4-5.6G = RM440


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QUOTE(destfull @ Jan 18 2010, 12:50 AM)
borrowed your price list to recommendation thread =)
there is still katak bawah tempurung out there
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yes, a lot ppl get mis-guided by stupid anti sony camera shop seller. stupiak one them. let them see the whole truth, nothing but the truth... summore, i bet sony 70200G has more stock in msia then nikon 70200 F2.8


*edit: i think i take that bet back... LOL, but then, msia got lots of 70200G, and i think it easily have sold over 200 unit... my hometown got 5 unit sold... small town nia... and 6th unit must be mine... LOL
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QUOTE(freddy manson @ Jan 17 2010, 11:22 AM)
85mm is longer so it'll be sharper if u can take the shots from a longer range, his/her body shots.. when she's running, etc etc
F1.4 and F1.8 wont give u as much different if ur still trying..
u should get one. but for IMHO, go for F1.8 and if u feels lke the range is comfortable to you then u can go on with F1.4 if u still think u need the aperture..
and, dont worry 50mm F1.8 sangat laku.. u'll be able to sell it later very fast..
no lah.. he's a fellow alpharian mah.. asking about UV filter saja.. why 'die' pulak?
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 18 2010, 12:44 AM)
Don't la like tat.... pity us isolated from the rest of the world.....  sad.gif
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It was only a joke.
Sorry if I've offended anyone here.

However, better late than never. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(akumirul @ Jan 18 2010, 01:09 AM)
oh... i see... igtkan he used that canon... tongue.gif laugh.gif
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lol..shd b friendly to everyone regardless the brand he/she use right....photography should not be trapped within brand/manufacturer..should have discussed everything openly..and freely.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(albnok @ Jan 18 2010, 12:54 AM)
ieR: You got a point there; updated the list to add:

Budget telephoto zoom:
Canon 75-300mm F4-5.6 III USM = RM800
Sony 75-300mm F4.5-5.6 = RM780 (RM500 second-hand)
Canon 75-300mm F4-5.6 III = RM720
Nikkor 70-300mm F4-5.6G = RM440
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aisks, nikkor still cheaper? hahaha

edit: how about minolta 70300? lol

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post Jan 18 2010, 01:31 AM

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Yes, but that is not everything - the Nikkor 70-300mm F4-5.6G has no VR or AF-S so you can't use it on a D40/D40x/D60/D3000/D5000. The Nikkor 70-300mm F4.5-5.6 VR, while cheaper, only focuses to 1.5 meters close while the Sony 70-300mm F4.5-5.6G SSM focuses to 1.2 meters close. (The Canon also does 1.5 meters.)
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but those lens under 1k, cant really justify any "super" IQ those usually get from those G/L lens right?

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the puppy like a lil bit dark on my screen...but anyway..nice shot there...

always love dogs~!but too bad i don think i'd have one for my own..
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1st pics seems underexpose...2nd picture is nicely done....

guys,whats the MFD for this lens :

1.sony 16-105
2.sony 16-80
3.tammy 17-50

thanx in advance....
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Sony 16-105mm F3.5-5.6 DT:
Maximum magnification = 1:4.35
Minimum focus distance = 40cm

Sony 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT:
Maximum magnification = 1:4
Minimum focus distance = 38cm

Minolta 70-210mm F4 beercan:
Maximum magnification = 1:4
Minimum focus distance = 110cm

Minolta 35-70mm F4:
Maximum magnification = 1:4
Minimum focus distance = 100cm, 30cm with macro switch

Sony 75-300mm F4.5-5.6:
Maximum magnification = 1:4
Minimum focus distance = 150cm

Sony 55-200mm F4-5.6:
Maximum magnification = 1:3.45
Minimum focus distance = 95cm

Sigma 70-300mm F4-5.6 Macro:
Maximum magnification = 1:2
Minimum focus distance = 150cm, 95cm with macro switch

Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 Macro:
Maximum magnification = 1:3.8
Minimum focus distance = 38cm

Tamron 17-50mm F2.8:
Maximum magnification = 1:4.5
Minimum focus distance = 27cm

Sigma 18-50mm F2.8 Macro:
Maximum magnification = 1:3
Minimum focus distance = 20cm

Sigma 17-70mm F2.8-4.5 Macro:
Maximum magnification = 1:2.3
Minimum focus distance = 20cm

Sigma 28-300mm F3.5-6.3 DG Macro
Maximum magnification = 1:3
Minimum focus distance = 50cm

Tamron 70-300mm F/4-5.6 Di LD Macro
Maximum magnification = 1:2
Minimum focus distance = 150cm, 95cm with macro switch

Tamron 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 Di ll Macro
Maximum magnification = 1:3.7
Minimum focus distance = 45cm

Maximum magnification is the ratio between sensor size and object size. 1:4, for a sensor that is 36x24mm, means it can fill the frame with a surface area of 144x96mm while in focus.

Minimum focus distance is measured from the sensor to the subject. The actual working distance will be much less; for example, the Sigma 17-70mm's working distance at maximum magnification is only 3cm from the front element to the subject.

(From http://www.alphanatics.com/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=2340)
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Guess what I found from this JPG/film enthusiast:
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/dxo/optics-pro.htm

So I tried to de-fish my Peleng 8mm and got this (de-fished below):
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QUOTE(albnok @ Jan 18 2010, 04:17 AM)
Guess what I found from this JPG/film enthusiast:
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/dxo/optics-pro.htm

So I tried to de-fish my Peleng 8mm and got this (de-fished below):
user posted image
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nice pic... but the distortion still great.. wow..
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QUOTE(albnok @ Jan 18 2010, 04:17 AM)
Guess what I found from this JPG/film enthusiast:
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/dxo/optics-pro.htm

So I tried to de-fish my Peleng 8mm and got this (de-fished below):
user posted image
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albnok: tried using DxO...wow...results is GREAT...but it really sucks up power to the max...until my CPU also start beeping...
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