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 1120 Park Avenue - PJ South, any comments?

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post Jun 5 2011, 07:31 AM

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If they just want a house.. y peter not just built another floor of condo... one floor 12 units.. 2 floors 24 units... put them on the lowest floors. enuf to house all the them... 1120 families now effected for those 20 families? state government should think a win win solution with minimized damage for peter, buyers and squarters.

This will cause peter making small lost... but he is profiting from the other 1120 sold units. Just my own opinion for a solution.

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post Jun 5 2011, 09:51 AM

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Can you publish the email here? We can also do the same.

QUOTE(douchbag @ Jun 5 2011, 02:49 AM)
Developer demolishes PJS1 longhouses, evicts homeless residents

Source: http://komunitikini.com/kl-selangor/develo...-chaotic-scenes

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6dbK_9bxHQ

We need to make sure the Selangor govt is not turning a blind eye on us 1120 purchasers amidst the whole 1-sided news coverage.

Edit: I just wrote an email to Hee Loy Sian on our behalf. Let's see if him or his assistants reply.
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post Jun 5 2011, 09:58 AM

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20 families wanna Landed ... dont wan pack with in condo 1120 PA..
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post Jun 5 2011, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(cutealex @ Jun 5 2011, 09:58 AM)
20 families wanna Landed ... dont wan pack with in condo 1120 PA..
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maybe they should think who they are in the first place... do they own the land?
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post Jun 5 2011, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(cmk96 @ Jun 5 2011, 10:13 AM)
maybe they should think who they are in the first place... do they own the land?
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Anyone of us doesn't really understand what is the story behind, thus it is unfair to judge the 20 families just like that.. as buyers of cos we would want to protect our interest but the developer and government should hav settle the dispute among themselves..

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post Jun 5 2011, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Jun 5 2011, 10:33 AM)
Anyone of us doesn't really understand what is the story behind, thus it is unfair to judge the 20 families just like that.. as buyers of cos we would want to protect our interest but the developer and government should hav settle the dispute among themselves..
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Squatters consists of people occupying an abandoned or unoccupied space or building, usually residential, that the squatter does not own, rent or otherwise have permission to use.
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post Jun 5 2011, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(rachel9966 @ Jun 5 2011, 10:41 AM)
Squatters consists of people occupying an abandoned or unoccupied space or building, usually residential, that the squatter does not own, rent or otherwise have permission to use.
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It is humanitarian issue.. this is where "human's true colour" reveal when ppl place self interest above other ppl's well being.. they might be squatters, but might not be criminal.. it is a basic human needs to hav a shelter above their head.. Hey.. these are HUMAN BEINGS.. HUMAN BEINGS like you and me..

Despite having court order, it could be "legally right" but that does not mean "morally right" .. what had our long years education had taught us about sympathy and compassion..

We had never stand in their shoes and understand from their position, they do not need us to treat them as criminal but they want us to understand that we are all human beings who have equally rights to have access to basic necessities..

Government should hav stepped in to resolve this issue.. WTH with the motto "Person First" where they chase ppl out from their basic needs.. WTH with all the developer's "Coporate Social Resposibility" where they just show their face in orphanage but kick other ppl out from their shelter.. Their acting is even better than Hollywood.... something for us to ponder..

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post Jun 5 2011, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Jun 5 2011, 11:19 AM)
It is humanitarian issue.. this is where "human's true colour" reveal when ppl place self interest above other ppl's well being.. they might be squatters, but might not be criminal.. it is a basic human needs to hav a shelter above their head.. Hey.. these are HUMAN BEINGS.. HUMAN BEINGS like you and me..

Despite having court order, it could be "legally right" but that does not mean "morally right" .. what had our long years education had taught us about sympathy and compassion..

We had never stand in their shoes and understand from their position, they do not need us to treat them as criminal but they want us to understand that we are all human beings who have equally rights to have access to basic necessities..

Government should hav stepped in to resolve this issue.. WTH with the motto "Person First" where they chase ppl out from their basic needs.. WTH with all the developer's "Coporate Social Resposibility" where they just show their face in orphanage but kick other ppl out from their shelter.. Their acting is even better than Hollywood.... something for us to ponder..
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nice speech... but think twice if ever ch_leong's post #2539 (RM30k) and cutealex's post #2543 (landed house) are fact because like awiekupo's post #2521 (greedy knows no boundaries..), Greedy doesn't appeared to be a chapter of moral in our long years of education.
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post Jun 5 2011, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(20yrsinsrisentosa @ Jun 5 2011, 12:17 PM)
nice speech... but think twice if ever ch_leong's post #2539 (RM30k) and cutealex's post #2543 (landed house) are fact because like awiekupo's post #2521 (greedy knows no boundaries..), Greedy doesn't appeared to be a chapter of moral in our long years of education.
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Its a choice to uphold or leave our morality behind..
As mentioned.. no one knows what is the actual story behind (do you?).. no one stand on their side and understand what is the actual story.. too much here say and everyone has their own stories and assumption.. looking back at their post, it seems that the indian family are the victims..
They want a house, not 30k.. maybe they are given what they are not promised..
Only 1 truth, they are forced to leave their shelter..


Added on June 5, 2011, 1:13 pm

More stories..
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...0676&sec=nation

They sign up for LOW COST FLAT.. are they greedy??
Block E Buyers action committee chairman M. Sugumaran said the residents had vowed not to budge until the Petaling Jaya City Council (MBPJ) and Selangor Govern­ment provided them with rent money and ex-gratia payments for the low-cost flats they signed up to buy in 2004.

They were place intentionaly in PPR Lembah Subang and PJS1 longhouses.. what can they do if their promised flats were not built? Citizen shouldn't pay for the dispute and mistakes done by either government or developer..
The residents are part of a group of squatters who were moved to PPR Lembah Subang and PJS1 longhouses eight years ago with the offer of low-cost flats. The flats have not been built.


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post Jun 5 2011, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Jun 5 2011, 12:24 PM)
Its a choice to uphold or leave our morality behind..
As mentioned.. no one knows what is the actual story behind (do you?).. no one stand on their side and understand what is the actual story.. too much here say and everyone has their own stories and assumption.. looking back at their post, it seems that the indian family are the victims..
They want a house, not 30k.. maybe they are given what they are not promised..
Only 1 truth, they are forced to leave their shelter..
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after all, he said only 1 truth... guys, will the 1120 site closed and stop working at all in the past few days is only our illusion or only to him...?
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post Jun 5 2011, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(20yrsinsrisentosa @ Jun 5 2011, 01:18 PM)
after all, he said only 1 truth... guys, will the 1120 site closed and stop working at all in the past few days is only our illusion or only to him...?
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Read my previous post again with the news article..

Dont get me wrong as no one wants an abandone project, I m also worried for a fren of my who owns a unit and I am sure you will get your PA1120 in 2 to 3 years time.. I am just sadden how the whole situation is being handled by the G, court and developer.. and I believe the indian families are victims rather than wrongly accused..

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post Jun 5 2011, 01:33 PM

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why are there no one backing us up? and why are they getting the support and pity?
because they are squatters? and we are rich people?
we are not rich and we are on the losing side..
most of us is buying house for the first time and putting our hard earned money we got from our own sweat..
they are putting no sweat at all and getting all the attention!!!
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post Jun 5 2011, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Jun 5 2011, 01:26 PM)
Read my previous post again with the news article..

Dont get me wrong as no one wants an abandone project, I m also worried for a fren of my who owns a unit and I am sure you will get your PA1120 in 2 to 3 years time.. I am just sadden how the whole situation is being handled by the G, court and developer.. and I believe the indian families are victims rather than wrongly accused..
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does everybody happy with twincharger's assurance who does not own a unit like us but his friend, does not from P, G or etc? i am a simple person, let say... at least i trust him.

wondering there are always a single side of a matter to you, a truth, a victim... for our information. we are a victim too, to the opposite party. but you are not victim of any side, you are a good friend... a good friend of a victim like us that spoke for the other side.

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post Jun 5 2011, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(sam59 @ Jun 5 2011, 01:33 PM)
why are there no one backing us up? and why are they getting the support and pity?
because they are squatters? and we are rich people?
we are not rich and we are on the losing side..
most of us is buying house for the first time and putting our hard earned money we got from our own sweat..
they are putting no sweat at all and getting all the attention!!!
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We are not rich.. they are not rich either.. my point is.. they dont deserve to be finger pointed as they are also victim same as the rest of the buyers..

The major issue here is how the authority and developer handle the issue .. both side has to win.. no one wants to see one side winning, one side losing..

The issue is getting the right authority to resolve the dispute rather than getting 1 side win and getting to other side lose..

What I see most of your post are the way to solve this issue is by forcing them to leave the land.. We should know who to pressure, its the G, authority and developer to solve the dispute rather than forcing them to live without a shelter.. they are equally victimized like you.. understand?? shakehead.gif


Added on June 5, 2011, 1:55 pm
QUOTE(20yrsinsrisentosa @ Jun 5 2011, 01:47 PM)
does everybody happy with twincharger's assurance who does not own a unit like us but his friend, does not from P, G or etc?  i am a simple person, let say... at least i trust him.

wondering there are always a single side of a matter to you, a truth, a victim... for our information. we are a victim too, to the opposite party. but you are not victim of any side, you are a good friend... a good friend of a victim like us that spoke for the other side.
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Thank you for ur understanding.. sometimes when we are in their shoe, we can know how vulnerable they are as i think they are poorer than anyone of us.. approaching the right party to resolve issue, helping to each other will be a better way than accusing them illegally occupying the space.. they are human, they need shelter too sad.gif .. PA1120 have 2 to 3 more years to get your shelter, but they need it even badly right here right now..

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The bitter truth is the buyers are always on the losing end when any issue happens. The only thing that block E owners can do for now is to wait for the gov action. With the aggressiveness of the developer, things will really get bad.

Not to say protesting is not useful, but end of the day I believe b&w paperworks are the proof that be used in court.

Probably the buyers of block E can consult a lawyer and see what action can be taken against both parties.

P/s: squatters did not ask for landed. Only want what was promised.
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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Jun 5 2011, 01:49 PM)
We are not rich.. they are not rich either.. my point is.. they dont deserve to be finger pointed as they are also victim same as the rest of the buyers..

The major issue here is how the authority and developer handle the issue .. both side has to win.. no one wants to see one side winning, one side losing..

The issue is getting the right authority to resolve the dispute rather than getting 1 side win and getting to other side lose..

What I see most of your post are the way to solve this issue is by forcing them to leave the land.. We should know who to pressure, its the G, authority and developer to solve the dispute rather than forcing them to live without a shelter..  they are equally victimized like you.. understand??  shakehead.gif


Added on June 5, 2011, 1:55 pm

Thank you for ur understanding.. sometimes when we are in their shoe, we can know how vulnerable they are as i think they are poorer than anyone of us.. approaching the right party to resolve issue, helping to each other will be a better way than accusing them illegally occupying the space.. they are human, they need shelter too  sad.gif  .. PA1120 have 2 to 3 more years to get your shelter, but they need it even badly right here right now..
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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Jun 5 2011, 01:49 PM)
We are not rich.. they are not rich either.. my point is.. they dont deserve to be finger pointed as they are also victim same as the rest of the buyers..

The major issue here is how the authority and developer handle the issue .. both side has to win.. no one wants to see one side winning, one side losing..

The issue is getting the right authority to resolve the dispute rather than getting 1 side win and getting to other side lose..

What I see most of your post are the way to solve this issue is by forcing them to leave the land.. We should know who to pressure, its the G, authority and developer to solve the dispute rather than forcing them to live without a shelter..  they are equally victimized like you.. understand??  shakehead.gif
you statement are very slanderous. there are no single post about "way to solve this issue is by forcing them to leave the land" by anybody in this thread. before this was "only a truth", "a victim" and now "I see most..." from you, do you understand your own problem before comes to write something out?
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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Jun 5 2011, 01:49 PM)
We are not rich.. they are not rich either.. my point is.. they dont deserve to be finger pointed as they are also victim same as the rest of the buyers..

The major issue here is how the authority and developer handle the issue .. both side has to win.. no one wants to see one side winning, one side losing..

The issue is getting the right authority to resolve the dispute rather than getting 1 side win and getting to other side lose..

What I see most of your post are the way to solve this issue is by forcing them to leave the land.. We should know who to pressure, its the G, authority and developer to solve the dispute rather than forcing them to live without a shelter..  they are equally victimized like you.. understand??  shakehead.gif


Added on June 5, 2011, 1:55 pm

Thank you for ur understanding.. sometimes when we are in their shoe, we can know how vulnerable they are as i think they are poorer than anyone of us.. approaching the right party to resolve issue, helping to each other will be a better way than accusing them illegally occupying the space.. they are human, they need shelter too  sad.gif  .. PA1120 have 2 to 3 more years to get your shelter, but they need it even badly right here right now..
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I read all your comment on this page... all you said is indian family are the victims... what is your comment for a solution? at least i see cmk96 said built another floor of condo to house them.

the real story seems told in the links given by forumers few days ago. maybe you didn't read them.
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post Jun 5 2011, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(rachel9966 @ Jun 5 2011, 05:13 PM)
I read all your comment on this page... all you said is indian family are the victims... what is your comment for a solution? at least i see cmk96 said built another floor of condo to house them.

the real story seems told in the links given by forumers few days ago. maybe you didn't read them.
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It is quite endless discussion... anyway... I do hope both parties are able to settle this issue in a good term... everyone has different views on this .. i do read all post including news articles online and offline.. as I mention, I am also concern for a fren..

I rest my case here...


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even at current stage, i believe they can withdraw money from banks if they wan to.

any sifu can confirm this?  notworthy.gif
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